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7 hours ago, Mommar said:

Not really.  Psychologically the other three are either staring you down or approaching you.  You are watching planes fleeing Rodan.  Godzilla has a side profile which does not intimidate a person in the same manner.  Especially not with a little girl just sitting there looking on.

ah, very good points.  I suppose if Godzilla showed a mouthful of teeth, it would be more intimidating.

is it weird that out of all these posters I find the Godzilla one is the least intimidating?

If they bring back the Tomcats, they need to have Phoenix missiles, I'm sorry, I felt really robbed with the original Top Gun because all they used were sidewinders.  I don't even think they shot a Sparrow.

The scale is not too outrageous, you can actually scale out both the King and Big G very well since there is a visible Osprey V-22 right in between them.  The wingspan is well known on that aircraft, and you can scale up both of these guys.  The sizes seem to mesh very well proportionally with the Japanese series of movies.  Which is pretty good.  Godzilla is shorter, but more buff as opposed to the King, who seem to be larger, but more flimsy.  

You can kind of also infer Godzilla's size from movie one because he passed right under a Nimitz class carrier.

Kong will have one big advantage over Godzilla in any fight, he is likely to be much more agile, and I wouldn't put it past him to go and poke G in the eye a la the Three Stooges.  Kong's biggest defense is if Godzilla can't connect with his atomic breath.   And big G's arms are also quite tiny compared to Kong's meaty paws.  Oh, and did I forget to mention the lack of opposable thumbs.

48 minutes ago, Mommar said:

They want Mothra to be able to actually physically fight.  So giving her larger legs makes her more effective from a blow-by-blow perspective.  Her old design didn't lend itself to taking an active physical role in the other movies.  Plus, she looked damn goofy.

I don't know, I remember larvae Mothra having a decent range weapon with her silk, entangling both the King and Godzilla in various movies.  Sticky but effective.  Imagine being squirted with all that white stuff, and you didn't know what it was, wouldn't you be the least bit perturbed.  

And if I recall, in the 2000s, Mothra had the ability to project some kind of energy beam from her antenna.   Mothra is more a distance kind of monster, all the physical stuff,  so dull... so dull.   Mothra is much more refined than that. 

wow, that looks weird, this doesn't quite look like the traditional Mothra.  At least not the fuzzy version that we're used to, but may be they are just going for a new look.  The old version had big blue eyes, and tiny little legs.  This thing has legs that are way out of proportion, and eyes ain't blue.  May be its a re-imagining.  

oh, hey, I just realized, they threw Zhang Ziyi in this movie too, quite a long way from CTHD and RH II.  Of course, we have to get someone from China in there to draw in the Chinese crowd.  Otherwise, Legendary wouldn't be doing its job.  But she is nowhere near as popular as Fan Bing Bing these days.  

  That was just too much, the reindeer with the gatling gun...

Mothra was always the most out there of the bunch, with the idea of the fairies dancing and chanting Mothra.  Most of the other monsters were easy to understand, either big animals, evil space cyborgs or some other such thing.  I wonder if they'll take to the guardian of the earth routine with Mothra, that's how a lot of this was done in Japan.

1 hour ago, slaginpit said:

There is a message there I dont doubt it. Look at the MooseKnuckle website and teaming up with PornHub. But In a sense are we not an infection? Look at the misery we cause each other how the elite try to censor. But as far as monster movies go. Its a rockem sockem MMA match between two massive monsters. The rest is just noise. And that is what all of us want to see.

Actually, it would be interesting if they do a bit of a cliffhanger... may be have the real King win at the end of this movie.  Then, Godzilla goes into training mode a la Balboa in the next movie with King Kong.  Then come back in a fourth movie and have a rematch with the King.  I know that won't happen, but I hope they don't kill of the King like what they did to the MUTOs in the first movie.  

Also curious to see what they'll do with Mothra and Rodan.  The latter never got that much exposure after the first movie, always a sideshow.  The former had its own movies, but is still just second fiddle to Godzilla and even the King.

heh, if the trailers are any hints, it actually looks pretty good.  But Bumblebee still looks too much like Bayverse Bee.

I hope they don't just kill off the Decepticons.  I like the idea of having some named guys Blitzwing around.

2 hours ago, captain america said:

Not a fan of this condescending language in the trailer:

-Mankind is the cause of this "mass extinction"

-"We" are an "infection"

-The Titans are the planet's "original" and "rightful" rulers.

I'm not sure if people even recognize the linguistic programming at work here. Not only will I not be seeing this in theatres, I'll actively be seeking-out the bootleg.

Yeah, the language is designed to make you feel like a schmuck if you're a human.   It's like the character in question is a crazed environmentalist who would prefer to slag half the human population to "heal the planet."  I think the right word is fanatic, one of those enlightened folks who think it's their place to tell others what's best for them.  The funny thing is that this language is contrasted directly with Serizawa's comments about being Godzilla's pets.  I saw it as another one of Hollywood's "messages," to be simply ignored by the guys who came up with it, because they are too busy snorting cocaine and objectifying women while in their private jets flying to Tahiti.   

Anyway, enough of the psycho babble... let them fight.  

So, I had it right, put the Macross in place of Godzilla, and Valks in place of F-35s, and we have DYRL.  

And of course, the real "King" is Golg Boddole Zer.

I really like the line about people being Godzilla's pets.   

The trailer was very nice in that it showed not  too much in terms of anything that could be considered real spoilers.  I think one thing Disney might want to consider is basically doing no more trailers after this first one.  Unlike the other movies, this Avenger is in the very unique position of not having to build up anticipation.  This little bit is enough, after all, everyone knows that Tony gets out of that capsule, and Renner coming back is not a surprise, only the circumstances would be interesting.

They need to really build this up by doing nothing and get the fan base really whipped up that way and see if they can pass up the $2.5B mark.  

My personal opinion is that they are better off waiting another five years for the next Macross series. and doing it correctly.  More Frontier, less Delta.

So, I saw that poster, higher, further, faster.

And I couldn't help but think of a similar poster I saw at a trade show when I was sitting across from this other booth, it said, deeper, faster, and clearer..  my colleagues and I made fun of those lines for hours, substituting clearer for a bunch of other words.  

That's what that poster above reminds me of.  

14 minutes ago, David Hingtgen said:

1 tank for 2 missiles seems a poor trade IMHO. 

Yeah, the frigging F-14s had 4xPhoenixes under centerline, and those were a lot bigger than puny AMRAAMs, in fact,  the AIM-54 were almost as big as the drop tanks the F-14s carried.     For shame...

5 hours ago, David Hingtgen said:

Not having the center tank is almost unheard of I think, for an intercept load-out like that----you can consume the fuel just in takeoff and climb/acceleration, then ditch it and have no drag penalty as you start hitting Mach 2+.   But without one---you'll probably be at bingo fuel 30 secs after you start mixing it up.

That's why you have tankers.  If I recall correctly, there are quite  few situations (especially in carrier operations) where attack aircraft launch with their full bomb load, get up to altitude and re-tank before proceeding on their missions.  That's why the JASDF has four KC767 near Tokyo.    So, it's not unreasonable to not have the centerline drop tank.  Besides, those -15 looks like they have conformal tanks.

8 hours ago, electric indigo said:

needs more missiles...

Amen, an Itano Circus needs at least 24 missiles, that thing is 6 short. 

And by the way, the top of the plane is completely empty.

I think they screwed up the subtitling, it should've been VF-1, not F-1.  But at least he is still into quality, Waygu bull, not some random cow.  Only the finest for Mr. Hunter.

Apologies to all for the last dozen or so post, I've belatedly realized that I haven't put up spoilers around the clips

21 hours ago, F-ZeroOne said:

Reportedly Japan is going to work on converting the Izumo-class "destroyers" to be F-35B capable, and possibly buy up to a hundred F-35As and Bs (in addition to the 42 already ordered):

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-Relations/Japan-to-order-100-more-F-35-fighters-from-US

Woohooo, I'm sure in the near past, someone at Lockheed did a happy dance.

the Gamilas dreadnoughts with their shield wall is apparently capable of preventing warp.  That's part of the reason why those ships show up with the Cosmo Navy, to prevent Gatlantis from warping away.   After all, the idea of having a physical shield to block fire in space actually doesn't make a lot of sense especially since it also blocks the forward firepower of the ship.

1 hour ago, skaianDestiny said:

Weeks apparently passed, and that is the original Andomeda. Apparently the walls are preventing Gatlantis from warping.

OMG,  

If that's really true.   Then it's really true, Zordar warped to Saturn, then sat with his thumb up his ass for an apparent standoff for no reason whatsoever.   While his #1 enemy was sitting right under his nose for however long.  That's just lazy writing.  

I think they are over Mars.  You know, I seriously think that the Andromeda Yamanami is using is a new build ship, not the original.  Now unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know about the exact time skips in each episode, but if I had to guess, if the situation is so dire, and the Andromeda these guys are using is the original, they aren't going to take the time to do a paint job, not when seconds count.   In this case, with their time skip factory, the Cosmo Navy is likely just to give Yamanami a new ship, and put the damaged Andromeda aside for later repairs.  

I'd be curious to see a more detailed explanation though.   The funny thing is given how Zordar is interested in killing the Yamato, he isn't just sending ships after the Yamato while it is being towed.  Instead, he'll trust Soto to do it.  It's just so weird.