ZenAmako

31 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Maybe...but it also looks derpy compared to the one that was actually used on screen....maybe Mikimoto felt he could do better...and he was right!

If the cel is going to be held that long on screen, it probably needs to look good.    You might be able to get away with a derpy looking cel if it's an inbetween cel. 

21 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

The most interesting one was this one....and it fetched a nice sum

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c922537913

I wonder if there were plans to add additional cel movement during that final sequence in the film, but they just decided to flip back and forth between Minmay and Misa using the 2 static cels actually seen on screen....it ended up as a more dramatic effect I think than if there had been additional cels added to the sequence......maybe someone could ask Kawamori or Mikimoto someday

That also appears to be a static cel (it's labeled A1 Stop).  It seems more likely that it was an error cel.

I have another cel from Iczer-1 that is not the actual cel that appeared on screen, but doesn't appear to be a fake.  I wish I could ask Hirano or Kakinouchi... 😛 

On 9/13/2021 at 11:51 AM, Fortress_Maximus said:

Dangaioh OVAs are fantastic from character and mecha design perspectives! Kawamori and Obari lend their considerable mecha talents. The character designs by Toshihiro Hirano are top notch and showcase his brilliance. The anime is a visual masterpiece IMO, however, the story is fairly simple. My advice just enjoy the awesome visuals and music.
 

I enjoy both Dangaio and Hirano's earlier Iczer-One for the visuals and the overall aesthetic of OVAs of that era (yeah, the stories were fairly simple).  Obari also worked on Iczer-One.

This gives me a chance to share some of my cels from Iczer-One. 

On 8/30/2021 at 8:10 PM, Oden said:

I like the character designs myself.

Here are some sketches of  Yui and Mai along with a Flagger cel .

 

 

 

That's a really nice genga of Yui!   I'm a pretty big MZ23 fan myself.  The original OVA is definitely my favorite, although I do like some things about the sequels - for example, I really like the soundtrack for Part III (even if the animation was kind of a train wreck).   A cel or genga of Yui dancing or a nice shot of Eve from Part 1 would be what I would want if I had my pick of art from the series. 

1 hour ago, Fortress_Maximus said:

Some nice DYRL cels sold recently. Good prices. Wow, even the DYRL I sold to ZenAmako sold for much more than triple what I charged him. 😛
 

I sold that cel on eBay to a buyer in Japan (via a forwarding service) who immediately put it on Yahoo! Japan at an inflated price (I didn't know they would do that).  I've noticed that there are at least a couple of sellers based in Japan that trawl the U.S. eBay for cels they think they can resell to Japanese collectors at a higher price.

I decided to part with that cel because it seemed to be deteriorating.  It had noticeable oxidation spotting, which I wasn't too concerned about initially.  However, one day when I checked on the cel I noticed that the sides had become wavy (although there was no vinegar smell).  I had a few options:

1) Quarantine the cel from the rest of my collection;

2) Ship it to Cel Oasis for however many months and see if they could restore it; or

3) Sell it before the condition got any worse.

I decided to sell it (for a very reasonable price), disclosing its condition, with the hope that another Macross cel will come along at some point.  It's a little difficult for me to quarantine cels in my small apartment, and I didn't want to risk the rest of my collection getting contaminated.

I hope for the sake of whoever bought it for triple the price that it does last for a while.   

1 minute ago, Fortress_Maximus said:

Interesting.  Been searching for the first movie art for a couple decades, extremely low inventory.  When even Yann, Young, and Rick did not have any it was a good sign these are nearly impossible to obtain.

I did see a cel from the first movie on Takamura-Store's site - I think it was last year.   It was of Hikaru.  You'd have to be pretty familiar with the first movie to recognize what the cel was from (I've seen it a bunch).  But yeah, the only time I really see art from the first movie is when it's already in someone's collection.

This cel lot is still on YJA, but the seller wants 99999 yen.  :P  They come with a certificate from Mandarake, but here also the cels are stuck to the douga...

Sure.  It was this one of Madoka disco dancing from the first OP ("Night of Summer Side").  I was surprised it went as high as it did.  I was tempted to bid on it if no one else did, but a bidding war ensued...

Here are the three Minmays that ended this morning on YJA.

I figured those mecha settei on Heritage Auctions would end up going for a lot.  I was watching three DYRL Minmay cels from near the end of the movie on Yahoo! Japan Auctions (and an OP cel from Kimagure Orange Road) this morning.  The Minmays went for 245000 yen (eyes open), 129750 yen (eyes slightly closed), and 68000 yen (eyes closed - maybe I should have tried for this one).   I think they were all stuck to their douga too.  (The KOR cel, incidentally, sold for 203980 (!) yen after not receiving any bids until just before the auction ended).  The market is really competitive right now.

Well, this thread is pretty dead.  I tried for a nice cel of Minmay singing "Shao Pai Long" last week, but I got outbid (which wasn't a surprise),  I settled for this douga, my first Macross piece in a while.

There have been a lot of great Macross cels on YJ recently from a particular seller, but they all appear to be coming down with vinegar syndrome (I'm guessing they were all stored together).  This is pretty sad to see.  There was a shot of Minmay from DYRL giving Hikaru a supicious look after he suggested they go to a hotel.    The seller has a lot of other Macross cels (mainly from DYRL), but if they are vinegar-y, I wouldn't risk contaminating the rest of my collection.

I also thought this topic was just for Macross cels.   I don't get to contribute cels very often since Macross cels tend to be more than I can afford.  I have managed to pick up a few nice cels from other series, primarily 80s OVAs.  However, nice shots from other '80s anime are also becoming harder to find and more expensive.

Here's the cel I bought from FM (thanks again!).  It's from the same cut as the one that sold recently on YJ.  However, she's missing her microphone.  I'm guessing it must have been on another layer?

There's a pretty nice Flash Back 2012 Minmay in the current BWA:

https://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/auction/item/itemInfoEn.html?index=639096

The starting bid is 80,000 yen, but I'm guessing it will go higher.  It's from the same sequence as one I sold to another member here almost 20 years ago (although I think that one is nicer).  The cel collecting community is a small world.

There's also a nice DYRL Minmay on YJ right now:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e452426207

Ugh... The Minmay wedding cel sold for 652,000 yen.  I guess that opening price was not that crazy after all.

There are a few other nice DYRL cels on YJ right now, like this set:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q371033447  

That is indeed a very nice cel, but for that much, you could buy a decent Ghibli or even a Disney cel.  You would have to be a pretty diehard Macross fan to drop that much on Minmay.

I know of at least one dealer who thought a "wedding" cel they had came from the last scene of Macross (obviously not being that familiar with the series).  They had it priced super high because they were under the impression it came from an iconic ending scene.

That's true for FB2012.  I was referring to finding cels that you own included in art books in general.  I have a cel setup from Iczer-1 that's in one of the art books, and I just thought it was neat.  I had no idea it was featured in the book prior to buying it.  

Anyway, this DYRL cel of Minmay and Hikaru just went for 280,000 yen. 

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c826359458

1 hour ago, jvmacross said:

I think it was a local japanese buyer, so it'll probably never see the light of day again...

I think it's probably better to buy locally right now, if possible.  I would worry a little about having a cel worth that much shipped to me from overseas right now.  Most likely, there wouldn't be an issue, but it was something I had to consider.  As far as the cel never seeing the light of day again, well, I saved a picture...

With regards to cels being featured in art books, I wasn't thinking they would be more valuable because of that.  It's more like, "Someone thought this was a nice enough image out of the thousands of cels produced for this film to include it in a book."  

That Flash Back 2012 cel was really tempting.  Like the cel posted above, it is featured in the the Flash Back 2012 Grafitti art book.  I've owned a few cels from FB2012 over the years, and I would like to add another one to my collection at some point.  I just couldn't bring myself to drop close to $2K on a cel right now.  Unfortunately, that seems to be what they're going for now.

Here is the page in the book:

Much thanks to @Fortress_Maximus for a rare cel from my favorite film (DYRL)!  It arrived in perfect condition, and I'm very happy to have it.

Was that an authentic production cel?  I couldn't tell, and it seemed like the seller wasn't sure, either.  That frame does appear near the beginning of the OVA, but why is this cel a pan cel, and why doesn't it have a letter in the corner?  The description said something like they received the cel from Emotion for preordering the LD.  It sure looks real, but I dunno.  For that price I couldn't take the risk.  

On 10/20/2019 at 3:26 PM, theraiden said:

If this was $2500 cheaper i would so jump on it

Shower scene Cel

That cel has been discussed in this thread.  The consensus seemed to be that the price was too high for that shot.  Perhaps a better cel from the shower scene would be worth it to the right collector. 

I'm pleased to have a cel in my collection from Macross Flash Back 2012 again.  This is the third Flash Back cel I've owned; unfortunately, the first two were sold years ago.  Prices have gone up a LOT since I bought those cels in the late '90s/early 2000s.  Fortunately, this one isn't stuck, although it does have a bit of line fading (like every FB cel I've ever seen).

1 minute ago, Fortress_Maximus said:

It is a reproduction limited run of 40.  Not original artwork or pre or post production art.

Yeah, I jumped the gun a bit.  Was just trying to delete or edit my post.

Did anyone see this listing on YJ?

Looks like an original mixed media Mikimoto painting of Minmay.  o_O

https://www.rinkya.com/en/auction-f345862446?dollar=part

53 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

DYRL Minmay cel....73,200 JPY

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j567789769

Closer to a "normal" price...maybe the guys from the previosu week were tapped out! 

I tried for this one.  It was just between me and one other bidder at the end, although I have no idea how high they were willing to go.

It was a very nice profile shot, but I'm not willing to go quite as high on a profile even if I love Mikimoto's "elf ears" period.  :P