Jemstone

Someone suggested this topic could cause problems and being the case that I don't have time right now to monitor it a much I should it dies tommorrow.

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Geee.... I wonder who possibly could have suggested that to you. How would this topic become a problem? For once a guy on MW is showing an analytical view of sexism in anime that's quite open minded, considers cultural reasons, not bias and not a single "whore" joke made and it's a potential problem? A likely story coming from you. The first article is completely correct and one needs not look further than analyze an anime like Golden Boy for proof.

Enough of the bull already.

Oh, come on now. You knew I had to reply sooner or later. Roy and myk both get off on this kind of stupid chauvanistic crap which can be argued as a disguised bait (wait, you mean none of you made bets on how fast I'd reply?). The fact they are idiot males and "human" does NOT exonerate their behavior at all. Dare any of you try to reply to justify the stupid antics in this thread. A7 can't make an innocent "Babe" thread without it denegerating to pure sh1t!

See myk only says these things cuz of the stupid and very cheap whore that bore him! Hahaha. See I can make whore jokes too!

Well, you have to be a major car nut to know the voices behind most of the supporting cast. I don't know those two guys, though.

And why did Disney/Pixar put Bob Costas (Cutlass) in the movie if he's not even an auto racing announcer? They should've gotten a real racing announcer for that role instead.

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I'm not comaplaining but it would have been kickass if they had Dr Jerry Punch for that part.

The Jack PC

Tragic.

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How so? It's a student parody film of video game adaptations these days. What's there to hate?

I might be the only fanboy on the face of the earth that prefers the new "Director's Cut" to the original version. While the narration added to the noir feel it was really quite distracting and annoying at times.

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No, you aren't since I feel the same way.

Here's a closer pic of the letter. It also says "phone". The number on it is Behrooze's girlfriend's number.

Jack is going to kill China.

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Someone told me this last night:

1 Billion people vs Jack Bauer. I feel bad for China.

Just give me Geno, Mallow, a Belmont, Bomberman, Mega Man, Fawful, Hector, Capt Olimar and Mog, I will be happy. Noting too extreme like Cloud Strife but realistic.

I was trying to figure out what you guys were talking about, but then I saw the news that Solid Snake will be in the Wii Super Smash Brothers games...

Hell has indeed froze over...

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I wouldn't say that. Apparently, Kojima has wanted Snake in Smash Bros for a long time now and had asked too late for him to be included in Melee. So he got his wish for this next game. Now we need Mega Man and a Belmont (I'm sure Team Sonic is there).

Solid Snake's gonna get his ass beaten by Pokemon.....

Actually, that wasn't the reason.

I believe the EXACT reason given for closing the thread was "Rainbow Brite is cool. But not cool enough for MacrossWorld."

*searches*

Okay, it was that "Rainbow Brite while slighty more cooler than Robotech is not cool enough for Macross World."

Girly was never stated, or even implied. Merely uncoolness.

And Ms. Brite failed to be japanese or sci-fi, thus not meeting the basic requirements that would've protected a thread about, say, Silverhawks.

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Which did you search? The thread itself or the feedback thread dedicated to it?

Roy, in response to the last time we spoke via PM about a "problem". Here:

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jemmy wemmy, Today, 06:54 PM

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you need a new hobby. stop taking this poo so seriously.

Funny who thing who sent it, right? Someone I'm not supposed to be communicating with whatsoever. This can't possibly be bait. Of course not because nobody on MW actively seek to provoke me, right? Including the ones I consistently have stellar arguments on the board with.

Let's be honest, if you weren't trying to influence people with your grievances, you wouldn't be posting at all.  Regardless, I understand your explanation of the above post and I'm happy it wasn't really meant to be as hateful as it sounded.

True but I'm not trying to gain sympathy at all. This is not a sympathetic type of argument since my only real role was pointing at the obvious and asking, to the point of nagging, "hey what's with this?". Most people already know where I stand. I think they really have no idea where it is THEY stand and that's why things are a mess.

I had to handle Roy in a way which on his own (albeit sorts of ignorantly) illsutrate my gripe. There he was a mod that casually stated a topic was too girlish for a board full of guys. Slap to my face right there (and a guy created the thread). Then continue to carry this attitude in a thread asking what's the deal when he was more than overtly sexist with his reasonings. Since he was the guy in power he chose to ignore it and pretend he was of no wrong doing but accuse me of over reacting. I'm sorry but I'm nobody's bitch and neither should anyone else on the board be a mod's just because.

Fact is alot of guys on here are immature and it takes insulting them where it matters for them to respond. A pitiful tactic, yes. However, what's more pitiful? The tactic itself or the fact it's the only tactic that seems to have any results? You decide.

Not at all a cop out answer. Thanks very much, J's. It's not exactly a subject with an easy answer because it's so subjective. Whether is be the long deleted Rainbow Brite thread or the recent Baseball thread, sometimes there really doesn't seem to be any logic behind why a thread is deleted or kept when you look the existence of other threads. I think a uniform rule is the best option right now because you know people aren't going to monitor what they say (or why else need mods?)

My biggest gripe with MW has been this so called sensitivity issue which has proven to be too intangible and volatile I feel to be used an as excuse why things are done the way they are. Some topics are by no means sexist at all (just as the majority of posters really aren't sexist in the slightest) but how they are handled is easily percieved as sexist. If the topic isn't killed despite clearly going out of control and not a single mod so much says a peep then it just reflects badly on the ones adding to it, the mods not saying anything and the community that seems to be ok with it by tolerating it (the point I was trying to make with Mod Roy).

It's just simpler for me to point the gender based sensitivity ones since I seem to be the only female left willing to say "hey watch it" rather than giving up on MW altogether. Which just happens so much because nobody else is working on the problem but me it seems (so I have a reputation for it).

Not to say I don't expect this type of stuff at all (trust me in my field I'm all too used to it) but I prefer more constructive reasonings in response to certain topics. Look no further than the Shadow Chronicles screen shot thread to see what I mean. "Oooh boobies" is expected but some added stuff is not.......

BTW As perceptions go regarding that topic, I was told by someone (no, it's not Abombz) that MW is giving a pedophile like vibe with stuff members say which is why she left). I don't see the pedophelia connection but I digress.

I'm saying people need to watch what they say yes, but to leave it on the shoulders of the mods to take it upon themselves subjectively, gets us nowhere. especially, if the mods themselves are "human" and just as bad.

I don't expect anybody to reply since there are no men left on MW.

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Have to say, you're not winning any points here. I can't recall even having a conversation with you, let alone any arguement. All this does is insult members en masse.

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I just said that because it would get Roy to reply quicker. It worked, didn't it? Besides I'm beyond trying to "win points" with people on this board. Not yet has anyone addressed what I have said and Roy didn't say peep that wasn't already an insult untill I insulted his masculinity (as well as the rest of the board). The fact I even had to go there to get any reply at all speaks for the board posters as a whole.

EDIT: BTW Mr March, if you've ever wondered why I've never said peep to you is because you have always been an "upstanding citizen" of MW (see rational thinker). Yet, you never stood out enough for me to personally tell you of my appreciation of your presence. All you post here did was make me point out the obvious (yet again) an amplify my reasons behind why I will get no responses.

Oh no you didn't!

Rainbow brite again.

Just like a dame to get all crazy and bring up something old and meaningless again.  Stop being a stereotype. 

Yeah I'm blatant but well you've cried wolf so many times.  I don't take your views seriously any more.  No this isn't some bias against all women just you.

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Cried wolf? I think not. Ever wonder why there are so few female posters on MW? Don't tell me it's because they don't like Macross when Robotech.com is full of fmale fans. If I am wrong then bring forth the other females on MW that share your view.

Roy, quit ditching the topic to cover your own ass. Rainbow Brite was a legitimate example. If remember correctly, you closed the topic in feedback where you were asked why you closed it because "too girly" is just sexist.

Face it. The mods on MW discriminate all the time (no, not about gender) but topics they like. Still, if I've cried wolf for nothing bring the other girls that agree with you.

I don't expect anybody to reply since there are no men left on MW. Just a bunch of cowardly pansies that cringe when I step forward and point out the obvious when it comes to the chauvanist pig headed attitudes that arise on the board. Rather than face such an issue upfront to solve it or at least reduce it, it's easier to make unfunny PMS jokes or go crying on other boards as some sort of recourse.

The fact is individual mods will always discrinimate against topics they like and don't like. This doesn't touch the fact they let posters they like get away with posting certain things and immediately damn those they dislike. A limit I'm constantly pushing because I am in a very unique position on MW. From being a normal under the radar poster to being quite loudmouthed. I've tested certain situations when I should have been punished but was not because I'm one of only 3 remaining female posters (mods don't want to look sexist). Roy, I just used you as an example because you make it so easy to get my point across. This is directed at all the mods and mini mods.

On the otherhand when an opinion of mine, while unpopular, yet very valid and within the rules, I'm targeted by a lynch mob (only the cowards never do it here save a few souls I can respect). Yet, I'm not the only one that crosses that fine line. DeathHammer likes to delve deep into alot of discussions that are always broderline politics (yet still on topic). Look no furtehr fromt he anime chicks (hate that word) thread. Went from being about fantasies to exactly how is Motoko Kusangi's body is constructed and works to female gender roles in the media. Perfectly acceptible topics but there's always gonna be someone (speaking of mods) that want to pull the plug for whatever reason (too off topic, fear of a response from me etc etc).

So the issue of off topic posts being kept or deleted is gonna be ongoing. Just don't sit there and use religion and politics as an excuse to keep it off when these sorts of "debates" happen unwillingly on the boards all the time. Just make a basic rule or create an off topic board and let those that participate in it fend for themselves. (I suggest a board like that be private and accessible by registered users only). The mods don't even have to look through. Just leave a disclaimer so virgins know what to expect inside.

EDIT: If you feel I'm wrong to feel the way I do or just disagree you can respond. It's not like you'll lose a testicle for not agreeing with me. Just give me real valid reasons to abck up your opinions.

So your monthly circle is still working.

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Yes, you'll be happy to know that is and unhappy to know that my sense of humor is not right now. However, that's not what I'm referring to. In fact you may remember a little topic created by a male board member titled "Rainbow Brite" which actually fulfilled the basic requirements of anime and sci-fi. There was never an adequate reason given to why it was closed. Only reason was given by you, Mod Roy, deemed it too "girly" for MW. The topic wasn't offensive and small enough to die on it's own after "Murky and Lurky were funny" remarks fulfilled the reason it existed were made. So it's funny from my point of view that you would sit there and dictate what's too off topic to discuss yet you still discriminate against perfectly legitimate topics.

I guess what I'm saying is what's the point of taking your 2 cents seriously as a mod when you're just as flawed (if not more so) as the folks that want an off topic forum? Take your time replying. This can't be lightly taken without you outwardly seeming willingly sexist and offensive.

EDIT: Let's not take this too personally. I'm not offended by your blatant sexist comment constructed in a classic chauvanist method to be funny and discriminating.

One person who says some thing with no respect for others beliefs and another person who takes offensive at the slightly hint of disrespect to their beliefs.

The insensitives and the oversensitives.

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You mean kind of like the gender sensitivity problems that arise on the board but it's just easier for moderators and other members to ignore and pretend was never an issue which only causes a never ending cycle?

The board is supposed to be PG-13 (though we often creep higher), so try not to get too much past that discussing various "aspects" of Major Kusanagi's construction/anatomy etc.    Secondly, we do have female board members, though I doubt they'd be perusing this particular thread much.

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Not to worry. Nothing offensive int his thread. Besides threads like this are always worth a good laugh. Entertaining as all hell especially when the married fanboys reply. LOL

MUTHERFUGGIN' YES!!!!!!

Will you guys take this crap to the feedback board?

Ah, what am I doing in Leigi Matsumoto thread when apparently I am inferior?

Then they wonder why they disgust me.

Are all women required to show cleavage in the RDF?

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As much as they have to in UN Spacy, it would seem. Although to be honest, one of those was an Invid Princess, and the other a music star. We all know about the over-sexification of the music industry already.

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Ahhhh. I thought it was some culture shock protection strategy from any rogue Zents in outer space.