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Technically Lotus won't let you do anything to the car before it's delivered. It's funny because my brother and I were discussing a Lotus project. I know the budget project i've seen is the MR-S project, which was a private motorsports company's mission to make an MR-S faster than a custom built turbo Elise through lightening the body and basically using an identical motor. The project was successful but who wants to be seen driving around a puss box MR-S. The Elise is a great car, if you go to road & tracks website they have the Super Four Challenge (4 cylinder motored cars) and two of the two Elises entered got in the top 10. After you're done with the rebuild, be sure to post before and after specs on your numbers. I'd really love to see what your Elise can run in the quarter since Lotus already has the highest reputation for being able to handle the track.
Lotus Elise Turbo video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=10...6&q=lotus+elise
Actually it was car and driver who had the super four challenge, and the car in the video (Forcefed Turbo Elise) was the one that was having the boost problems. They complained about how inconsistent the power output was and how it was rittled with drivability issues. http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...&page_number=14 for the exact article.
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I got my December Issue of Road & Track in the mail along with my SCC and Super Strt. but the latter haven't had anything interesting in the last 4 issues so when the cover of R&T showed Shootouts as the heading, it's obvious which one i chose to read first.
Shootouts involved the Big brawlers: ZO6 vs. SRT-10 Viper; The Rebirthed Muscle: SRT-8 Charger vs. GTO; Classic Rivalry: Ferrari F430 vs Ford GT and the Rally Brothers: STI vs EVO... to put the conclusions short, based on numbers alone: ZO6 stomps Viper; SRT-8 Chargers stomps GTO; GT stomps F430 (which i found pretty awesome considering the F430 was built purposely to Beat the GT); EVO IX ties STI - this test was a bit bias because they were using the five speed EVO and not the six speed MR which made the gear ratios in favor of a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile, but on the track it got whooped. In Car & Drivers EVO IX MR vs STI the MR lost in all categories.
Based on drivability switch around the GTO and the Charger (eventhough the GTO looks like a cavalier on steroids), and switch around the F430 and the GT (mostly because you can't see well out of the GT).
I love it when magazines do shootouts, because then you can go to the person who loves the car that lost and laugh in their face! I could really care less that you can't see out of the GT considering the fact that it's still a Ferrari killer that costs 100,000 less. Also i'm not a fan of either the GTO or the Charger, but the Charger has 4 doors and stomps the GTO, that in itself is enough reason to want the Charger... sure it's not true to the heritage, but at least you can haul around your friends while you beat a GTO in a drag race.
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Usher has been in a movie?
Other than the ones listed, he's also starring in another movie coming out this year. I can't remember it's name because i didn't care, all i know is he's one of the main characters and that's enough for me to purposely forget it exists.
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Technically Lotus won't let you do anything to the car before it's delivered. It's funny because my brother and I were discussing a Lotus project. I know the budget project i've seen is the MR-S project, which was a private motorsports company's mission to make an MR-S faster than a custom built turbo Elise through lightening the body and basically using an identical motor. The project was successful but who wants to be seen driving around a puss box MR-S. The Elise is a great car, if you go to road & tracks website they have the Super Four Challenge (4 cylinder motored cars) and two of the two Elises entered got in the top 10. After you're done with the rebuild, be sure to post before and after specs on your numbers. I'd really love to see what your Elise can run in the quarter since Lotus already has the highest reputation for being able to handle the track.
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Maybe that's because Honda hasn't done anything decent since the S2000 and even that car is getting dated. For A1, the Elise is a good choice. But if you plan on spending 60k on it, why not just get the exsige. It's an Elise with a hardtop and a little less weight, and it comes supercharged. ...
The Exige weighs more, and has the same engine, there is a supercharged version, but only 50 of those were made and you can pick one up for about 160k. The Elise is the same car, just different body work, and personally the Exige looks more like a track only car. Not like a road car. It just looks too 'racer' for me.
That's true, because i just remembered it doesn't have air conditioning either. But back to the original advice, if you're going to turbo it just make sure you have everything tuned correctly or the motor will react horribly.
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I've been looking for this kit for quite some time now, no luck, so if you have one that you're willing to let go, PM me. Also, i'm sure someone has the Gigamesh kit that was released around the same time, but i have NEVER seen pictures of it incomplete or complete. If anyone has pictures can they post them?
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This takes me back
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Any Musician gone actor (Usher, 50 Cent, R.Kelly, etc.) needs to stick with music, and never ever go near a movie set; with the exception of some of the hot female musicians because you're really not watching the movie for acting anyway.
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Damn Right! Top Gear is a Bad ASS show! Jeremy Clarkson (though sometimes his statements are subjective) is a very good judge of cars, he doesn't descriminate by what the badge says but whether the car meets it's intended purpose. If anyone wants to read some of his articles on cars go to http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,12529,00.html . Very good stuff there
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Maybe that's because Honda hasn't done anything decent since the S2000 and even that car is getting dated. For A1, the Elise is a good choice. But if you plan on spending 60k on it, why not just get the exsige. It's an Elise with a hardtop and a little less weight, and it comes supercharged. Though i will admit the turbocharged will be much faster, but that motor (because it's built by Yamaha) is very fickle and is easly caught off boost. It takes a lot of tuning to get it to work right, so if you want to build it once and leave it alone i would suggest supercharging. But if you love the thrill of building motors and tinkering with the car, go for the turbo, and you can laugh at anyone who tried to build anything with a Honda badge on it. BTW the Elise is a badass looking car, definitely in the top ranking genre of my car list. Also another suggestion if you want a fast two seater, is get the Cayman. Okay yeah, so you'll feel a little bit like a money grubbin pussy in a porsche, but the Cayman is probably one of the few porsche's out that you can actually do stuff to. The motor they put it in is good, but my suggestion would be to dig around and find someones wrecked GT2 or GT3 and "borrow" its motor.
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I remember d/ling one that was a squadron of VF-1's and they went into a very cool battle sequence. When i d/led it there was no sound, just cinema. Who's movie was that? I lost it over time, i'd like to have that one on my computer again
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Did you notice that we're the only ones contributing to this thread? yeah, the ZO6 is an amazing car, but one of many that have come (and are coming) out this year. I can't wait until 2007 when the Skyline is released, and then some of Mazda's project cars aren't looking so bad either (Mazda 6Speed) though in comparison to the EVO and the up EVO X (the IX is coming but the X will be a complete redesign not just an upgrade) it makes the mazda look like a pinto when it comes to AWD systems and HP hookup. It will be really interesting to just see all of this on the track, because that's where all the hype really comes from.
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pretty sure they were done by brembo, at least for the Z, I had the upgraded brakes on my car and loved them, 13" rotors up front, 12's in back, cept rotors and ceramic pads were exspensive. Ive allways liked the vette cept the C5 and C3, good platform to build fromLike i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius!
It's not the size of the brake that is genius, it's the technology incorporated. The Brake caliper is individual pieces and not one block. The advantage is, the fronter parts of the caliper that take most of the ware can be replaced individually saving the owner money. Also because they're individual blocks (one for each pot, so six in the front four in the rear) they cool much quicker than a single block, in conjunction with the huge brake vent, means more consistent braking on a track and in general.
yeah, I know, but the preasure required to stop the rotaing mass is a lot less per inch. Ive been running a ceramic blend for years now, The only thing that gets the most heat is the rotor, Ive experimanted with a heavy truck, and cast rotors will get ate by ceramics. As far as the calipers go, any late model vette has brembo style brakes and those are going on my super truck
I had been meaning to edit my last post but internet was out. What i meant to say was, the caliper is one piece (nothing changed) aluminum (not sure if it's Brembo, but high chance of it being so) and the brake pads are individual (much like the ones found on certain airplanes) so there are 20 total pads manning the brakes (6x2 front 4x2 rear). They say it helps braking but i don't know hot true it is, but i do know that it is more efficient for maintenance. The actual production car numbers for the ZO6 aren't as good as the proto test mule. 0-60 in 4.1 and 1/4 mile in 12.1? i know the quatermile was somewhere in the low 12's
. Not bad numbers, but it's disappointing how different it was from original mule numbers.all in the tires, they use shitty ones from the factory, I had twin cars with a guy (96 LT4 vette convertibles) from the posted numbers they were running 13.5 from the factory ojn goodyears (scary garbage), he ran a 12.89 with G force BF's on his 1st pass and got kicked off the track (no cage in a convert under 14 seconds) with cheaters, thise GS's are capable of 12.50's with slight tuning
I know that anyone with a brain and knowledge of all the factors that go into making a car faster will understand to put sticky's on it. But the average fat pocketed retard who's going to pick up the ZO6 and drive it like a fool on the road will more than likely be discouraged by the difference.... or maybe that's a good thing!?
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pretty sure they were done by brembo, at least for the Z, I had the upgraded brakes on my car and loved them, 13" rotors up front, 12's in back, cept rotors and ceramic pads were exspensive. Ive allways liked the vette cept the C5 and C3, good platform to build fromLike i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius!
It's not the size of the brake that is genius, it's the technology incorporated. The Brake caliper is individual pieces and not one block. The advantage is, the fronter parts of the caliper that take most of the ware can be replaced individually saving the owner money. Also because they're individual blocks (one for each pot, so six in the front four in the rear) they cool much quicker than a single block, in conjunction with the huge brake vent, means more consistent braking on a track and in general.
yeah, I know, but the preasure required to stop the rotaing mass is a lot less per inch. Ive been running a ceramic blend for years now, The only thing that gets the most heat is the rotor, Ive experimanted with a heavy truck, and cast rotors will get ate by ceramics. As far as the calipers go, any late model vette has brembo style brakes and those are going on my super truck
I had been meaning to edit my last post but internet was out. What i meant to say was, the caliper is one piece (nothing changed) aluminum (not sure if it's Brembo, but high chance of it being so) and the brake pads are individual (much like the ones found on certain airplanes) so there are 20 total pads manning the brakes (6x2 front 4x2 rear). They say it helps braking but i don't know hot true it is, but i do know that it is more efficient for maintenance. The actual production car numbers for the ZO6 aren't as good as the proto test mule. 0-60 in 4.1 and 1/4 mile in 12.1? i know the quatermile was somewhere in the low 12's
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Also, there are quite a number of cars (that aren't considered "Super Cars") that run 3 secs. the 911 S is one.
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pretty sure they were done by brembo, at least for the Z, I had the upgraded brakes on my car and loved them, 13" rotors up front, 12's in back, cept rotors and ceramic pads were exspensive. Ive allways liked the vette cept the C5 and C3, good platform to build fromLike i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius!
It's not the size of the brake that is genius, it's the technology incorporated. The Brake caliper is individual pieces and not one block. The advantage is, the fronter parts of the caliper that take most of the ware can be replaced individually saving the owner money. Also because they're individual blocks (one for each pot, so six in the front four in the rear) they cool much quicker than a single block, in conjunction with the huge brake vent, means more consistent braking on a track and in general.
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Like i said before, I was always a rabid Hater of the Vette (post 60's) Until this years ZO6. And the only thing i hate about it is a debateable matter of opinion. The thing i love is whoever designed the brakes, they're a genius! But as my avatar boasts, I can't wait until Saleen finishes his Twin Turbo AND Twin Intercooled S7 (it was just twin turbo before), i'm excited to see those numbers.
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I thought the prequel was too much lights and sound and less depth with the characters. George Lucas is a great story teller i his writing and is a visual master, but when it comes to directing and dialogue he's way under par. Probably why episodes IV V & VI dialogue writer was outsourced and V & VI weren't directed by him either.
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I like to use 0-60 as a baseline since most of thiese cars will never see a track allthough I have been known to pull a 4 wheel slide on a freeway off ramp, which reminds me of the worst mistake I ever made in a car,,,,letting off the gas
, definatlly agree about lambo's, but porche is going in the wrong direction IMO starting with the boxster (ya ever feel the wheel hop in that car?)
Well, Porsche has something with the Cayman... but they screwed it up (again, VW influence). After realizing how light and incredibly rigid the Cayman was, they should've just made it the next 911. Put the most powerful motor they have and jam it in there. That's why every reviewer of the Cayman says it's the best porsche ever because of the potential (someone's going to take their GT3 motor and stick it in there). But i have to agree w/you on Porsche and ANY VW company for that matter (VW,Audi,Bentley,Lambo,Porsche,I know there's like 3 more).
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That car is exactly as you put it "a glorified daily driver", by no means do you feel you're driving a super car, especially considering it's price tag. The advantage in it being a daily driver and a Honda is the fact that you can train a half brained monkey to do maintenance for you.
The NSX is not a glorified daily driver. It's a supercar without the supercar quirks, such as tricky transmission, ridiculously expensive upkeep, etc...
With supercars, you're paying more for the brand name than anything, though admittedly Ferrari engines are pretty impressive.
I beg to differ, The newest NSX out only has 290HP and 224lb torque!? That's horribly pitiful for an 89,000 dollar Car, and definitely not supercar status (supercars in the motorsports world, are cars that hit 200mph, or have a 0-60 in the 3 second range) the 350Z VQ35 puts out more hp than that, and it's a production car! What you're really paying for with the NSX is the hand built body, and the low maintenance (as advertised ALL over the Acura, Honda Japan websites). It's so pitiful that I believe it was either Road & Track or Car & Driver that did a comparison test of the NSX vs. S2000, and the S2000 BARELY lost in SOME categories. the NSX 0-60 was the same as the S2000 and the quarter mile was .1 second slower! Personally the only good reason anyone has for owning one is if they got it for a good price second hand.
Thats always been my impression of the NSX. However 0-60 in 3 to be a supercar? Wow, thats like 3 cars in the world. The Ferrari 360 is 0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds, the Aston Martin DB9 is 5.4...
Aston martins are over weight luxury cars, hell, my 96 GS vette ran 4.7-5.1 0-60 depending on the magazine, M3 is like 5.0 or 5.2 (from memory), A supercar should be 4.5 or faster and pull over a "G" on the skidpad
There are even less cars that pull over 1.0G in the skidpad than there are that go 0-60 in the 3 second range. And yeh 3 seconds is a little harsh, let's say high 4's 5's is pushing it. The new ZO6 has a 3.6 1/4 mile so does the Ford GT.
exactly, when the "big 3" all have cars that can do it(mass production), it just pushes up the envelope a bit for the hand builders (ferrari, lambo, ect)
Right on, that's why i'm very hopeful for some of the newer cars that are coming out (like the skyline, though the skyline never comes oob with great times, they've been pumped up to over 1300hp). But in all fairness, lambo has never really built "super cars" they have built eye candy cars to make up for the fact that they're not ferrari's. Which brings me to the next point. Now that Lamborghini is creating cars that are a little more practical (VW's influence, you can actually use the rear view mirror!), is it actually worth buying one? Or would you just save some extra dough and go for the Ferrari? Also a lot of the European cars don't put an emphasis on 0-60 because they're aiming most of their vehicles for the track, not the drag strip. So they create one super car (Enzo, carerra GT) to prove that if they wanted to, they could.
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That car is exactly as you put it "a glorified daily driver", by no means do you feel you're driving a super car, especially considering it's price tag. The advantage in it being a daily driver and a Honda is the fact that you can train a half brained monkey to do maintenance for you.
The NSX is not a glorified daily driver. It's a supercar without the supercar quirks, such as tricky transmission, ridiculously expensive upkeep, etc...
With supercars, you're paying more for the brand name than anything, though admittedly Ferrari engines are pretty impressive.
I beg to differ, The newest NSX out only has 290HP and 224lb torque!? That's horribly pitiful for an 89,000 dollar Car, and definitely not supercar status (supercars in the motorsports world, are cars that hit 200mph, or have a 0-60 in the 3 second range) the 350Z VQ35 puts out more hp than that, and it's a production car! What you're really paying for with the NSX is the hand built body, and the low maintenance (as advertised ALL over the Acura, Honda Japan websites). It's so pitiful that I believe it was either Road & Track or Car & Driver that did a comparison test of the NSX vs. S2000, and the S2000 BARELY lost in SOME categories. the NSX 0-60 was the same as the S2000 and the quarter mile was .1 second slower! Personally the only good reason anyone has for owning one is if they got it for a good price second hand.
Thats always been my impression of the NSX. However 0-60 in 3 to be a supercar? Wow, thats like 3 cars in the world. The Ferrari 360 is 0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds, the Aston Martin DB9 is 5.4...
Aston martins are over weight luxury cars, hell, my 96 GS vette ran 4.7-5.1 0-60 depending on the magazine, M3 is like 5.0 or 5.2 (from memory), A supercar should be 4.5 or faster and pull over a "G" on the skidpad
There are even less cars that pull over 1.0G in the skidpad than there are that go 0-60 in the 3 second range. And yeh 3 seconds is a little harsh, let's say high 4's 5's is pushing it. The new ZO6 has a 3.6 1/4 mile so does the Ford GT.
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Kirsten Dunst, Her pumpkin head pisses me off and she reads all of her lines in monotone!
The MW Automotive Thread
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I noticed that exact same thing. But i think that also goes back to a long ended debate about pushrod vs overhead cam and all that entails. I'm not a fan of four door sports cars either but i was surprised to find that the Charger weighs more and only has 25 hp more than the GTO but stomps the hell out of it.
The other article that intrigued me was RUF's newest Porsche creation the St12 (12th generation of 911 Turbo). He built a nearly 700hp/tq monster that costs 287,000 (nearly 150,000 less than a carrera GT) and gets a 0-60 at 3.2 seconds, a 1/4 mile of 11.0 seconds and a top speed of 217.8 miles an hour. That's faster than both an Enzo and a Carrera GT and costs a hell of a lot less.
*also as a side note, the Ford GT in the shootout pulled 1.0g in the skipdad.