Roy Fokker
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1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
14. Fraudulent Elections
Renato: Thanks Yes, it's been a while...
Red Devil :: Do you always foam and froth when someone has a different opinion?
10 points out of the 14 you highlighted apply to Heinlein's work.
To be a fascistic society, there is no reason that ALL fourteen points must be fulfilled. 10 out of 14 is a high proportion, don't you think? Fine, it maynot be a Fascist state - but it certainly wasn't republican or democratic.
And I don't really have a problem with that (nor do I have a problem with that concept of sufferage really )
In anycase, we are heading offtopic.
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Hey! What's with the South bashing
Don't knock "kins" mmkaay?
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I like DYRL's gunpod sound the best.
Yeap. Me too. But I thought both Macross and DYRL were the same. Or am I mistaken?
Nope. DYRL came out after Macross the series. Check out the Pinned thread in this forum
By the by :: The more I listen to it, the more I am liking Macross Zero's gunpod sound. Especially in the very first dogfight scene where Roy transforms and takes out the amber/yellow enemy battroid
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I thought Roughnecks was good. I didn't see how it ended though.
The final episodes were scrapped
Red Devil :: What does it have anything to do with "liberal" ? Heinlein's novel was about a "fascist" human society in it's fight against the "comministic" bugs. The movie wasn't supposed to be true to the book - you said it yourself, it is a 'parody'.
I wouldn't essentially call Verhoeven "Hollywood" either. Verhoeven left Europe because of the interference the liberals/Leftists gave in his work. He got tired of it, packed his bags and came to America.
But I digress.
About the series :: I just recently got my hands on the entire series, all released versions, in it's entierity for the first time Been watching it ALL day long
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Because they were even lamer than the series which would force the entire universe to redefine ultimate lameness.
LMAO!
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I second that Gui. Paul Verhoven should be buried up to his neck in an Amazonian ant pile and left to rot for ruining one of the greatest pieces of sci-fi of all time.
Actually, Verhoeven produces the animated series as well
The point is, Verhoeven never really intended to stay true to the book in it's entierity - to do so would have easily meant box-office failure. Most of heinlein's books deals with morals and philosophy - which are hard to convert to onscreen action.
The movie was essentially an action flick - much like RoboCop - with subtle hints of trademark Verhoeven satire and philosophy.
But I'm not talking about the movie ehre - I'm talking about the animated series. It simply rocks.
Gui and Lynx :: Thanks for those links
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Big time fan. I actually liked this series to the movie as it had a lot more to do with the book than the movie ever did (not blaming Verhoeven. I understand it wasn't his intention anyway to make his movie relating to the book).
In anycase, anyone else out here who likes 'em?
I feel cheated that they never finished the series - imagine making Macross and not doing the Battle with Dolza of the final showdown with Khaifun! There's been petitions going around. Hopefully they will finish it. The show isn't being aired anymore but I understand that some parts of Austalia are still airing this series.
I totally loved it.
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Here's what an MG42 looks and sounds like...
http://198.144.2.125/MG42/Machinengewehr%2...0-%20Videos.htm
Also check out Band Of Brothers (Say episode III - Carrentan)
Actually come to think of it, the Macross Zero version doesn't sound too bad either
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I'm with DYRL as well
Now if we are talking cool - how about the 155mm machine-cannons used by the defenders of Zion on them machines in Matrix III?
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I'd like that skull too.
Thanks for the UNSpacy logo
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Wow! Now this is interesting!
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LMAO Opus!
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Note that "Viva Maria" refers to Maria, Max and Milia's daughter. Robotech makes it even easier to get confused because the same episode is titled "Viva Miriya" in RT (if I recall correctly).
To add more fun to this confusion, isn't that child supposed to be Dana?
Well, atleast that's what I could gather from the Sentinels movie (and IIRC, from Robotech as well!)
What's the point? Dana is how is called the max and Milia doughter in robotech, but they didn't translate the title in Viva Dana, probably they got confused (idots...) and thought it was Miria or they just thinked it was better.
M&M doughter is Komilia Maria Fallyna Jenius, and that episode is named after her.
THinking about it, probably Keith is right but "Millia" is how it was spelled in the original SDF Macross show.
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About Miria on the Yamato Product, didn't they misplelled Guld before too?
You maybe right. There might not be any point.
I just thought I'd like to point it out
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Note that "Viva Maria" refers to Maria, Max and Milia's daughter. Robotech makes it even easier to get confused because the same episode is titled "Viva Miriya" in RT (if I recall correctly).
To add more fun to this confusion, isn't that child supposed to be Dana?
Well, atleast that's what I could gather from the Sentinels movie (and IIRC, from Robotech as well!)
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How did this thread go from worshipping Mylene to art-copyright-watermark discussion?
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Man... Page 9 of this thread is hillarious!
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Probably the only redeeming quality in Macross 7.
Not even Mylene could redeem that POS Macross 7 is. She's cute though!
Yeah, and the Mecha with faces!
Ok ok ok.. enough Mac 7 bashing. This is about Mylene...
*swoons*
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I might largely agree with boradshore.
It was building up quite well but frankly the ending was a BIG let-down.
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All I got for Christmas this year were two kicks and a whack upside the head for bad grades
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Wow! Gorgeous stuff. Please keep it up
*sigh* I've always dreamed of observing a valk go fighter-gerwalk-battroid modes in reeeeeal slow-mo. Which is one reason I've rearly worn down my copy of Macross Zero - 1 (where Focker changes the VF-0).
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Angel's Paints, DYRL and that classic intro to DYRL (the movie) ... I think it's called Everlasting Love (prelude). And ofcourse the orchestral versions - specifically "Dogfighter" and "Battle of 50,000 years".
*sigh*
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Props to Low Viz Lurker for his always highly detailed and passionate posts! Enjoy reading em!
Agreed!
And I must add though, I actually felt DESOLATE when Cartoon Network cancelled Robotech. I remember waking up early mornings, an HOUR before I needed to get up to get ready for school - just so that I could watch the rerun of the episode that was on the previous evening!
But nothing took my breath away like DYRL...
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Wow! Check out the replies on this therad!
Man, I'm glad I came upon this site!
This is quite true. If anyone here has read up anything on defensive lasers as part of ballistic missile defence during the Cold War - you'll realise that while getting a high powered laser to vaporise an incoming warhead is important - the tricky part is focussing and mroe importantly - channeling (to concentrate the light into a beam instead of having it go all over the place).For weapons purposes, confinement must be mastered before projection is dealt with. And it's possible that the PPB field naturally adheres to objects.Channeling makes it more powerful, as more light energy is concentrated onto the target. This is especially important when you have annoyances such as an atmospehere in your way
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Probably the only redeeming quality in Macross 7.
Roughnecks: Startship Troopers Chronicles
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Next time someone makes a movie "inspired by" or "based on" a book, I'll remind them that they should keep it 100000% accurate. Maybe they should call it a Documentary or "Starhip Troopers: A Study on Heinlein's Philosophy" instead of "Action movie". I wonder where all the hound-dogging went when they made Saving Private Ryan.
In anycase - this thread is about Roughnecks: Startship Troopers Chronicles.
Can we please stick to that?