91WhiskeyM6

Shaddydog and APU have a combine 90+ posts.

They also have a nasty habit of defending Robocrap.

hmmmm...not regular posters like us.

Remember those Germans posing as MP's in WW2 during the Battle of the Bulge?

Shaggydog is also correct. It seems that anybody who likes MCP is crazy and bashed. I collect all Macross and Robotech and have no bad feelings tward either one. You guys are the biggest hippocrytes(sp) I ever saw. You bash RT.com for being so strict but in turn you do the same here. It may det delited but some of you are the biggest loosers on Earth if you have real hate against a toy company. Its actually funny. How can you say MCP look cheep, Yamatos look cheep also, the only ones who dont is the Bandai Valks.

You collect Robocrap? that says it all about you.

Would you like to download MP3's and buy Enron stocks?

You must like flame wars coming around here.

We will bash HG!

Not to be harsh, but this is why MW is a bit of a joke on some other sites.

Thanks for the info on the Joons, btw - I was thinking of grabbing the green one someday.

Macross World's the best. You no likey? you get out and don't let the screendoor hit you the ass.

You know what forum's a joke? http://www.robocrap.com!

Atleast over here, you got some degree of freedom of expression and opinion. Over there? they censor anything anti-HG.

In fact, go to ALT.FAN.MACROSS and they'll tell you they hate Robocrap.com

Think before you post.

You collect Bandai's and Yamato? where's your proof Mr. I only have 33 posts.

You should only cry if it's expensive and made locally..*cough* *cough* Toynami.

No way a Veritech/Alpha worth more or equal to a HasTak MP Optimus Prime.

God, I would max out my credit card for a complete G1 Predaking.

I have a G1 Bruticus that I bought for $80 complete, but Predaking is the ultimate Transformer combiner.

Look here:

If you're going to buy Robot toys and electronic gadgets, you go with the Japanese period(exception = Hasbro)

If you want to buy steaks, wheat products, hollywood, and combat arms- you buy American.

Words to live by-Golden rule thing

The point is that people on this site just hate anything made by Harmony Gold or Toynami, and I for one am quite sick of it. If it's a good toy, I buy it. (Yamato's, Superposeables, Revell models). If it sucks I don't (VF MPC's, Bandai's, etc.)

Oh freaking well...Harmony Gold must buuuuuurnn in fiery death

Your 80's kid knows that the new MPC Alphas aren't the same toy/quality as the Legioss and not worth the $80 HG is charging.  I'd rather buy the original scaled Legioss off Ebay even if it costs me hundreds. That Alpha POS ain't gonna persuade me.

I agree with you on the price of the MPC Alpha. It truly is not worth eighty dollars. That said, I have to take issue with your comment about the original Gakken Legioss toys. As the proud owner of all 1/35 scale Alphas (red, green, and blue) , I'll be the first to admit they are big, chunky, and not very accurate. Now the MPC Alpha certainly isn't perfect, but it *is* a hell of a lot more accurate to the line art and animation than the Gakken toys ever were. Still doesn't mean I'd trade my Gakken for one of them though!

It wont be successful.  Why? because your average American kid has never seen Robocrap.  Take Transformers Armada, Beast Wars, RiD, and Energon for instance. Their toy lines sell cuz there's a cartoon for the mass. HG's hasn't produced anything in years and Robotech 2004 may be too late to attract the kids for a good net profit FY 2004. It's also on cable rather than FoxKids. They should have waited after the cartoon started airing.

But don't you see? At eighty dollars a pop they *aren't* aimed at children. They are aimed at adult collectors who have a nostalgia for the show and for the mecha. Mospeada does have a pretty big fan base. Certainly not as big as Macross but the fans are there. Not to mention the Robotech fans...old and new. These people want an Alpha/Legioss and unfortunately Toynami and the MPC Alpha is the only game in town. It is too small (if a tread isn't produced) and it is over-priced but it will sell. At least I belive it will. Guess we will have to wait and see. Just my $.02.

Melissa

Targeted at adults? this isn't Japan we're talking about here where old school fans can appreciate Valks and the Legioss and buy them like pre-dot-com-bust stocks. There are more adults in Japan that are more robot crazy compared to American adult collectors. In America, you got to sell to the kids to make a profit. Not to adult collectors. Yamato is probably kicking ass in profits selling to adult collectors over there. Kids here don't really care about Alphas/Veritechs. Sad to say(not really), but Transformers kicks Robotech's ass here in the USA. Producing 15000 toys targeted at American adult collectors? It's no wonder I see MPC VF-1 Veritechs toys gathering dust on the shelves at various toy stores. Some Robotech fans we got here in America.

How sucessful is that 5000 limited edition YF-1R MPC again compared to the Japanese 5000(?) produced 1/48 Low-Viz? Japanese(and the rest of the world) will buy the Valk compared to the Americans buying a proprietary MPC. The YF-1R is still in stock @ valkyrie-exchange or BBTS for $80. The Low-Viz is twice more expensive and it's GONE. Where are all those Low-Viz being sold to? Last I checked, only 150 were bought by members of MacrossWorld(a majority of the members such as myself aren't Japanese). You can bet non of those clowns at Robocrap.com bought any(those that don't know about this site). The Japanese/Asian adult collectors bought the majority of those Valks.

As for the quality? Okay, they have more detail, but it's so.....small for $80 and it's not like it's imported or anything? I can atleast ding Toynami for the size and price.

Like I said, I'll choose the Gakken anyday.

Information highway robbery

My Air Wing:

8 VF-1A (1/48, 1/55, and 1/60)

1 VF-1D (1/60)

7 VF-1J (1/55, bootleg, and 1/60)

6 VF-1S (1/48, 1/55, and 160)

1 VF-11 (1/72)

1 VF-19 Blazer (bootleg)

1 YF-21 (1/72)

25 total - a squadron

Man, my air force is obsolete except for the YF-21 and bootleg VF-19. I wouldn't be able to defend my own air space.

what about $25,000 for a car that I'm still paying for?

That's because all these Robocrap goons come in here mouthing off. They know damn well a majority of us don't want that HG crap posted in this forum.

Personally, I don't see the difference between a bootleg Valk and HG's Veritechs. They're both unscrupulous toys. I don't want to hear about HG legal right either..we all know that 's bs morally.

HG didn't care about Macross. It all started when the internet became popular in the early 90's and Macross/Robotech toys were selling for insane amounts of money on Ebay. Toycom was poised to release Macross Plus toys. HG realized what they were missing out on tons of bucks and voila- the rest is history...

Kinda like Micro$oft'$ action$ during the internet craze of the late 90'$.

It wont be successful

Why? because your average American kid has never seen Robocrap.

Take Transformers Armada, Beast Wars, RiD, and Energon for instance. Their toy lines sell cuz there's a cartoon for the mass. HG's hasn't produced anything in years and Robotech 2004 may be too late to attract the kids for a good net profit FY 2004. It's also on cable rather than FoxKids. They should have waited after the cartoon started airing.

Also, your 80's kid knows that the new MPC Alphas aren't the same toy/quality as the Legioss and not worth the $80 HG is charging. Not only that, you got the GI Joe, TF, and MOTU toy lines trying to lure those 30 year olds. Poor economy and dying 80s nostalgia?

I'd rather buy the original scaled Legioss off Ebay even if it costs me hundreds. That Alpha POS ain't gonna persuade me.

15000 Scott Bernard Alphas eh? Toynami will be lucky to sell 5000.

That's business 101.

Macross 3rd Person shooter ala Splinter Cell, anyone? yeah...lame photoshop. Sue me.

Look's like Op's gonna with this duel. The 1S's targeting Op's leg while Prime's got a bead on the Valk's noggin.

A few months ago Joons valks were showing up like crazy on ebay. You could get them for about $30-40 including box. I 2 for $30 with box and a loose max type for $15. They probably have the highest quality of all the 1/55 bootlegs. They are even better than those MPC's toynami makes. I know the Green one in the space gundam box fetches a little more than the rest.

Wow, you're saying that POS bootleg I got is even better than an MPC? that's bad

Don't have and never will have an MPC.

I got mine's from Ebay back in 1999 for about $70? what a rip-off. I didn't know about the Bandai/Yammy reissues and Toycom was forced out by HG.

About $525 with BBTS. Man, I haven't bought anything from them in a while.

I like the VF-1 toy because it reminds me of the F-14 Tomcat. I'm a bigger F-15E Strike Eagle fan though.

What's with all these Robotech cockroaches infesting this forum lately?

Robotech sucks.

What's the most common enemy mecha in Macross? The Regults right? why did Yamato produce the Q-Rau first ahead of the pods? doesn't make sense. The Q-Rau is awesome, but the Regult should be addressed ahead of any other enemy mecha.

*LoL*