energon

middle of Feb

17th i think...

what and where is it?

I doubt very much that they were at the UK toyfair, there's practically no market for their stuff here. Even if they were, coverage is thin on the ground due to being overshadowed by the US event which is next weekend.

what is the us event?

Anyone who has owned a YF-19 toy is aware of this minor issue, and its not even an issue, its a matter of figuring out how to correctly lock a part into place. If he was complaining about the poor spelling, or the two right wing hinges, or a broken shoulder, or a fragile back pack hing, or many of the other perfectly legitimate complaints about previous macross toys from yamato, that's fine. I'd be grabbing a pitch fork and storming yamato's gates right along side him. (I'm still pretty bitter over my Garland)

This guy is complaining because he can't figure out how to properly lock his 19's nose cone into place, and he;s blaming it on the toy and Graham. This would be like someone signing onto a board and saying, "OMG alt grimlocks a POS, I can't figure out how to transform him, you people who worship alternators, you're all liars, you must be on Hasblows payrole!". And actually I'd be more forgiving with alt grimlock considering he is impossible to transform, but thats not a problem with the toys quality, it's a problem with an overly complex transformation mechanism. And lets be honest, while the 19's nose cone might require a little fiddling, its not a particularly complex part of the toy. I am sorry if for some reason this 19 really does have a dud nose cone, but considering I, like many other board members here have delt with this same issue, which is just a matter of figuring out how to get the mechanism to lock properly, I find it hard to attribute this complaint as a flaw with the toy. It seems like more an issue of user error.

The 19's 1st release had its problems, bad landing gear, shoulder gaps, and the misaligned gunpod. I complained and cursed yamato, and kicked myself for not grabing the 2nd release. I've been a long time toy collector, I've had my share of duds, alot of them have come from yamato. Non of us worship yamato. We constantly drag the company over the coals for everything they do wrong. The problem is Yamato's the only game in town for macross toys, so this poses a problem for the Macross fan. If bandai started making a nicely detailed, perfect transformation macross line that encompased every series, I'd gladly jump ship and get my Nacross fix from them. (but they are still in love with gundam, dear lord, how many gundam repaints do we need!?!) Still, for the people who have big problems with their Yamato Macross toys, a broken part, or flawed piece, there is one primary villian here. Toynami. If Toynami didn't put an embargo on all non Toynami Macross products you could very easily get, for free, replacement parts for your busted/flawed yamato macross toys through YamatotoysUSA.com. Just like the Garland's shoulder.

If people respected others opinion and replied like you, this would be a lot better place but everybody wants to be an internet smartass.

what the hell are you talking about? Are you still mad that I called you on your missunderstanding of sumdumgai's post? Jeebus kid, let it go. You didn't understand the post, and you were still wrong about the binaltechs. If you think I'm picking on you, well, maybe it's because you're wrong. But just for the sake of arguement, let's examine your post and my response:

What part of that response was an "answer" to anyone other than you? I refutted your claim that this was a QC issue. I refutted your claim that we were picking on a noob and I refutted your claim that we only listen to vets or "yamato kissass complains".

This isn't a QC issue, this is a mistransformation.

The guy in question has been a registered member for over 1 year.

Several of us, including me, have been very vocal over yamato's QC/Design decisions. My avatar pic was a shot of a shattered shoulder on my VF-0 for half a year.

And there have been plenty of threads, started by noobs about yamato issues where we've tripped over ourselves posting pictures and giving advice on how to resolve the issue.

For example: http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=24554

But think about it, how likely is it that people will be friendly and helpful when the post is nothing more than a hate filled rant? If l logged on to tfw2005 as "leader 1" or "gobotfan" and posted an unfair and scathing rant about my MP Convoy (which by the way came with chrome paint dripped all over the top of the cab and ankle joints so loose it can barely stand up right, and the right chest door was bent, so that it won't lock in place in bot mode) and then proceeded to insult a well respected member of that board... well, what do you think the response would be?

And pal, if you're going to come here to lecture us on net etiquette, you can start by looking in the mirror.

You did all this just for me, totally avoiding the subject. Get a Life.....Oh wait, Im sure your ego will not let you drop this so I eagerly await your next long drawn out ramblings.

Im talking about the way you guys are basically calling him an idiot because he might have it transformed wrong. Eugimon, you seem to be the board apeface and smartass and Im sure everybody just loves you on here but you need to relax with the smartassery and wannab wittyness. You quote my post but throw in an answer to his, are you once again waiting for me to have replies to jump on me? I really feel sorry for you if you really do “live for this kind of stuff” because it’s a TOY board.

I have noticed that in a "newby" has serious complaints it isnt taken serious.....If a vet or a Yamato kissass complains, it ok. You guys act like Yamato is great and every other company is lacking and you justify Yamatos poor QC. I dont understand.

Any pics of this? Sounds cool.

What exactly is this?

You can buy one if you like it. You dont have to really be a collector who buys one of everything. I wish I could stop but I dont even want to

wow, thanks for that really insigtful commentary, you've really added a lot to the discussion.

Do you wait for me to reply just to reply to me? Its true what I said, every item people complain about, you still get it anyway. I wasnt being negative its true.

You guys are still going to buy them no matter what you say.

I found them......between the 2 cardboard halves.In the pack with the directions.

Thats funny, mine didnt have any in the box.

Do these come with stickers

There are pics of this on my website. Click the link in my sig and do a little looking around. I'm at work but if I have time later I'll insert the photos here.

Do you actually have everything on your page, and if you do you have collection pics?

All good replies. Im just saying, I dont care about thin backpacks or stickers, I just love the toys.

Can’t you people enjoy anything? You can’t even enjoy this place with the constant complaining. I’m starting to come here only to look at the new pics, I can barley stand to read this stuff anymore. There is like 1 positive to every 5 negatives. Nothing will ever be perfect no matter how much it cost and nothing will ever live up to your “standards” so why sit here and pick apart something you are supposed to love? I know a lot of you have been here for a while and can give a crap about what I say but how can complaining be a fun part of the hobby? Its like you were waiting for the pics just to attack.

Its sad what some people complain about.

I'm keeping my old 1/60 VF-1s. One reason is sentimental value: This was the first Yamato VF-1 I got. This was when Yamato upped the ante on what you could do with transforming toys. This is when valkyries jumped after the M+ valks to more what we are used to today, and closer to the quality of the 1/48 line. A VF-1 that could hold the gunpod in fighter mode! Somewhat detailed landing gear that didn't bite your hand ( constantly snapped my fingers with the spring-loaded ones on the chunky-monkey).

The second reason is to appreciate the evolution of the VF-1 toy design. I have a Joons 1/55 chunky monkey I bought when I was a kid. I have some 1/60 VF-1s (my first was a 1A Max). And of course the 1/48s.

Then again I don't have a large collection of valkyries. I've always picked my favorites and went by priorities, skipping a lot of releases. So I have more room than the collectors that get the whole line.

Yamatao did not up anything, even though a lot of people claim they dont like them, Transformers are unbeateable in that department, especially the masterpice and Altinator like.

SDCC Exclusive: Hikaru 1S with black box

Wave 3: Weathered Hikaru 1S with Strike Parts

Wave 1: Focker 1S

Wave 3: Weathered Focker 1S with Strike Parts

Seems a bit sad to me that Toynami is double dipping twice already. I guess they added the weathering (if these toys ever come out) and chances are the Wave 3 will be built better than the SDCC exclusive and the Wave 1 toy.

You have to realize that most people dont have the SDCC exclusive so the FP version will be their first.

i'm confused. which one is it? will the old ones appreciate or drop in value because both were stated.

i would only sell the old version of the new one that comes out. in other words i would keep the elintseeker and super ostrich until new 1/60 versions of them came out.

Thats what I thought,Squidd said both.

I have seen a few references to people that are planning on selling off of part of their collection because of the introduction of the new 1/60’s. This doesn’t make a ton of sense to me. Wouldn’t you want the old ones and the new ones? Wouldn’t you want to keep the old ones because they are certain to appreciate in value? How cool would it be to have two complete generations?

I am in no position to understand because all I have are 1/48’s and new 1/60’s.

Do you collect for value or fun? I wont sell mine because I collect Robotech/Macross and my collection grows. I dont collect for value at all and for those that say they are selling to get money to buy the new 1/60s I dont understand.....Where do you get money to but the items that are not the new 1/60s?

A lot of significant scenes contain 2-seaters. The first close-up look at a battroid, the first minmay rescue, the wedding, mirias first battle in a vf, the saturn rings joyride and the following break-out

Some people would want to put a minmay, milia or misa figure in the rear seat, when people see the VF and go "hey that plane looks cool" you can say YEAH -and it's got a girl in the back!

Yay kyp reduced his sig size!

oh ok,cool

Me to kyp. i just wish they'd do a 19 in ROys colours as well, and u could have a kind of "Skull 1 generations"

Sorry if these have been asked befor but:

Will the new 1/60s be the same size as the old ones and if not, why?

What is the big deal about 2 seaters?

San Diego Comic Con exclusive Toynami 1/100 Hikaru

I gotta get me one of those. If anybody has one...LMK.