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Not many of you remember me...I collected all manner of things, not just macross. I was on here buying, selling and trading but all of that was while I was in the service. Wasn't rich but my income was a lot more disposable than in recent years. I was also living in Hawaii so, when I got out of the service, life changed drastically. There was no housing allowance, medical insurance became a thing and, suddenly, the money I thought was gonna stretch (although the actual bring home was much higher...the benefits placed me well below the poverty line) didn't, on top of that, I got divorced. Luckily she wasn't interested in my collection bc I'd spent a good bit of coin on it.

I collect comics too, this is far easier to keep up with. Long story short I'm currently back home, making better money, and choices. Got remarried to a woman who's down with my collecting and am now looking to return to it. But yeah, I had stopped for the better part of 13 years...BELIEVE ME, this is the extreme abridged version of everything that has happened...crap was like a movie, lots of ups and downs but I think I'm finally back...at some point, I'll start a thread in the collections part of the forum with a link, if admin will be cool with it...

Hello all! I've been gone for a pretty long time and am happy to be back. For those of you who remember me, how has things been? For those who don't, it's good to make your acquaintance! I just saw a show on the Travel Channel called 'toy hunter'! I did a search on this site and I didn't find mention of it...if there are other threads talkin about it then I apologize ahead of time for not being thorough enough. Here's the thing...there's an area where you can post your collection on their .com. I have watched the show and so far, macross hasn't been getting any love. Right now transformers and gi joe get most of the repeats...it's like no one knows of the beauty that is macross and it just ain't right!!! What say ye?

Hello all! I've been gone for a pretty long time and am happy to be back. For those of you who remember me, how has things been? For those who don't, it's good to make your acquaintance! I just saw a show on the Travel Channel called 'toy hunter'! I did a search on this site and I didn't find mention of it...if there are other threads talkin about it then I apologize ahead of time for not being thorough enough. Here's the thing...there's an area where you can post your collection on their .com. I have watched the show and so far, macross hasn't been getting any love. Right now transformers and gi joe get most of the repeats...it's like no one knows of the beauty that is macross and it just ain't right!!! What say ye?

For the last year or so, about 85% of the time when I browse the MW forums these days, it's using my 3G mobile phone.

With the old forum software, this was no problem, it worked as smooth as silk - very stable, reliable and fast (and that was the full version forum, not the lo-fi version).

However, since the change to the new forum software, it causes my phone's browser to crash and auto-shutdown after about 30 seconds to 1 minute on the MW forums. It crashes regardless if I try to view the full version or the low-fi version of the MW forums.

I browse several other forums and a large number of websites on my phone and none of them have ever caused my phone's web browser to crash and auto shut down like MW forums is now doing!

Not happy, as I rely on my phone for web surfing!

Graham

And it doesn't look quite as macross-esque as the last upgrade...not that I'm not happy, this place is tight nonetheless but are there more changes in the mix coming?

Don't sell yourself short, I've always liked your work pretty clear and strait forward.

A good toy collecting read, IMHO since day one.

Also do you have an archive of your masterforce website goods, I thinhk that will really help out BMAX.

And it won't hurt to check it out for nastalgia reasons too!

Good lookin out bro! I'm always lookin to educate myself further! As you can all see by the collection I posted earlier in this thread I am a fan mainly of the transformable genre stemming mostly towards Macross and Transformers. ANY new input is always appreciated!

Just making sure everyone's aware of this site:

http://reocities.com/futuristgroup/vauto.html#jetfire

Detailed analysis of some Jetfire variations.

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nope. no missles with jetfire. i still have my original. the only other accessory besides the basics (super parts and gun) was the ole arm clip to store his blaster

But was it one of the first releases? I have already seen evidence to state that the sticker sheets were different even among the Mat jetfires much less between the Mats and the later releases...you have an original Mat JF and all it had was the trusty gun clip? Thanks for answering before and thanks for any answer in advance.

C'mon ppl let's keep it clean here...I'll admit, I saw it too but decided to err on the other side of things, s'why I spelled out "transformables", LOL! But seriously, lest the topic get closed by mods can we please stay on target? Missile trees...Jetfires?

Your a tranny fan right?

Actually I started out a fan of transformables. For the most part it really didn't matter the toy line. When I was young my family really didn't have the money to get me army dudes and vehicles to put them in, I opted for toys that could be both. As it turned out some were cool (transformers) and some not so much (convertors, go-bots etc...), it really didn't stop me from liking the ones that weren't so cool tho. I actually owned the Ovelon Gazette variant in the convertors line and got mad praise for it, only to have it stolen about a week after buyin it, I wasn't the only fan...Gi Joe was out of the question because even though the action figures themselves were somewhat inexpensive they almost certainly required accessories and vehicles which costed alot more and broke far more easily. From a parental perspective I can see why I did't get any Joes. In the end I am a fan of both Macross and the transformers (80's) toyline. Hope that answers your question!

I call bullsh*t on this one.

What got most people in the West into Macross was ROBOTECH, not Jetfire.

Good grief.

The only reason I even *WANTED* a Jetfire toy was because it was a Valkryie from ROBOTECH.

Not disagreein with you but tryin to further strengthen your reply, YES what got alot of us into MACROSS was ROBOTECH. What got most of us into robotech tho...JETFIRE...It's the honest to <insert deity here> truth! When you chck the sindication from back in the day, transformers ratings had robotechs beat hands down. unless you were a bit older, almost too old to care about the toys, you weren't gonna care about the necessary subtleties and plot twists that robotech/macross had to offer. I mean, if you want further proof, ask 10 ppl our age (I'll be nice and throw mine out there, 35) how many watched transformers and looked steadfastly for the toys and then ask the same of robotech...it'll be fairly unanimous. Such can't be asked here because there'd be an obvious bias and not that it'd be a bad bias but there'd be a bias nonetheless. Continuing, due to Transformers being a ratings juggernaut with the kids they were able to sell more toys, kids run into the stores and see a JF on the shelf and think the looks real cool but don't later make the connection until later on when they see robotech. An example of ratings, I remember TF's being shown on FOX back in the day between 330 and 4 in the afternoons, the MAIN channel where all the cool cartoons were shown AND PRIME TIME. Robotech was on an off channel, not ABC or NBC and real early in the morning on the weekends, not impossible to catch but not the busiest time for TV. That was Midwest early 80's television lineups so I can't speak for the rest of the country, but the areas I know of. The few of us that were able to make the link were the ones who were not only lucky enough to either have the toy or know someone who had it but get up early enough (at least once) to catch robotech. So, yeah Skull-1, I agree with you! But can anyone PLEASE tell me if Jetfire came with missiles!?!

So, I guess the better word for Transformers would be "rip off"... right?

Again, I would caution against the use of such strong terminology. a rip off would be the use of a licenced product without permission of the parent company. Hasbro had full permission to use all molds to create the transformers toy line. The creators of the convertors/maladroids toyline made toys that looked like their other transformable varients but with small "alterations", just enough to get them over the top to make the toys. If they had the licences then Istand corrected but this is my educated guess...Sooooo...jetfire had NO missile tree?

Does that mean CONVERTORS were legit?

I think the convertors were all knock offs. The transformers, Jetfire, the Insecticons ect...were all licensed port overs. the convertors were all poorly made reproductions of the original toys. Look at Joons, those would be another example of knock offs. I mean, if we were to truely consider JF a knock off then the Gakken Alphas (robotech) would also be knock offs....see what I mean? To echo Chen...

That's a bit harsh, considering we do talk about knock-offs here. Jetfire is just a knock off....one that got most of the people from the western hemisphere into macross.

I apologize then for the harshness of such a comment, I've seen topics of this nature closed and locked by admin...so I want/ed to approach this with the utmost delicateness. One of the reasons I asked the questions I asked was because I may be getting back into the collecting scene sometime in the near future, another is just my innate curiousity. Not trying to turn this into a collections thread but I wish to shed a little illumination by showing why I asked about the heatshield and missile tree. Missing are pics of the open and closed GBP giftset and a pic of an open 90's super vf-1s.

http://s190.photobucket.com/albums/z84/jae...tion/?start=all

It's still a valk. Just re-branded. And as we said above, if jetfire hadn't been brought to us, many of us never would have found macross. It deserves it's place.

And possibly, if we let one jetfire thread exist, people would stop making new ones......

I most definately concur, Jetfire deserves a place amongst macross purity, if not for him maybe I wouldnt've found the pearly gates of Macrossdom. I understand that alot of the purists want to keep this a strictly macross themed site and that is how Shawn and Graham would want it...it's just, when it comes to Jetfire, the lines aren't as black and white as many others, who may want to ban this type of talk, say they are. If we were talkin about Jazz or Bumblebee then yeah, that' strictly for transfans but JF's different. Also, I would like it noted that am NOT trying to mount an insurrection but do my miniscule part to raise awareness...OK, so to the task at hand, is it unanimous that there was NO heatshield with the first mat jetfires? What about missile trees?

Sadly that was it range in price, some stores wanted $2300.00. All fingers are crossed something just as nice, but WAY cheaper is released.....

Fingers crossed, not holding my breath though.

Yeahhhhhh, that price took it from high-end toy to, "Ludacris speed GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Y'know, as much love as I have for the ol chunkies (believe me I have most, if not all of em) I will have to agree with you. My love for them all began with jetfire. Honestly, I understand that he is a transfan fav and this is a Macross site, he is a bridge between the two. Maybe it IS unauthorized talk and I apologize but as we and countless others point out, without Jetfire, we may not have found out about Macross. I know it' beating a dead horse to proverbial mush but that's how it is. Hell, when I was a kid, my cousin owned a jetfire and that's where it began. They stayed on shelves for a while where I was from and I BEGGED my folks to get me one for xmas. instead what I got was a robotech alpha...at the time (early 80's) one cartoons popularity was easily eclipsed by the other so I'd BARELY heard of robotech. On top of that it was the 1/35 scale alpha, at a lil ove 25.00 each it escaped me as to why my floks opted to get two of one instead of one of what what asked...it woulda been so much cheaper. I was like "hey, who am I to argue?" and went on my merry way, questioning "What IS robotech"? I had a real hard time sitting through it though because, as a kid I was hyper and there wasn't enough explosions in it for me, I DID, however notice that, in the opening, there was a fighter that looked JUST LIKE jetfire with a yellow and black color variant. Later I'd find this to be Roys' fighter but I'd be perplexed about why there was a major switchup between both macross (robotech) and the toy which came to be named skyfire (speakin of which, I can understand why the fighter had to be redesigned for the cartoon but not what was up with the name change) until years later when I'd start collecting. At that time I pondered Jetfire's dark history and discussed it with a friend of mine and fellow MW'er Darkwind. After some deliberation I delved into the world of macross starting with a Mat Jetfire and collecting all the chunkies, it pretty much grew from there, Hell, I even got a joons! The question remains though, I know that the earlier Jetfires (which are directly related to the original chunkies of takatoku ect...) came with the fighting kite symbol, whatever came of the missile tree and heat shield?

As cool as the chunkies were, the jetfire look was my favorite. I even prefer the rounded nose. We probably aren't supposed to talk about that stuff, but for a generation of north american kids, jetfire was the key to the journey to a life long love of macross.

At the same time, I WISH someone would make a masterpiece G1 Skyfire.

60 cm long, and it'll only set you back by 210,000 yen

Just wanted to check...is that as in $2,100.00!?!

Maybe this is the wrong place to ask sucha question but I was wondering. I currently have a Painted Matsushiro in my possession an started wondering, did it come with a heat shield? I know that there were alot of things that were discontinued after the fighting kite symbol was removed, for example, did it also come with missiles? Positivity please, haven't been here in a while!

I was perusing the Yamato Japan and found these pics of the VF-11B. I would've saved the pictures myself but it's there via flashplayer. This is a fly lookin piece of valk. Maybe it's an old and well beaten up topic but I did a search for any topics with the 1:60 scale VF-11B in mind and came up short. Anyway peeps, check this out!!! It looks to be set for a release date of April!

http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1275

Dude I'm glad to see you online again keep up the good work and don't let the past get you down.

You are one of my best friends and when you get a chance come by and see the fam and collection again.

Also shoot me an email with your address so i can ship some more goods to your collection.

I'm on it! I'll be headin back to the boat in about an hour or two, are you at home, I'll holla at you there!

i love you daddy, can't wait til your back so we can split an ice cold dew and watch bleach again. im gonna go to bed, call me tomorrow. goodnight, i love you.

Luh you 2 bu! Keep em on ice for me, I'll be back soon!

Hey folks, went to hlj and to overdrive and they're comin up a lil short! I will begin the hunt, the good news is that I may have locked down the anniversary edition valks! What scale are they in???

Haven't seen this member in awhile. Welcome back!

VF 1/60 v2 line is PERFECT TRANSFORMATION. Almost everything that went into the 1/48's is in the 1/60's now, plus double elbow joints and other small tweaks.

From the new VF 1/60 line you're missing the upcoming VF-1S Hikaru SSP and someone just pointed out that there's going to be a VF-1S Max as well. Also there's a new online store that's giving the old regular standby's a run for their money. They're called http://www.over-drive-inc.com/. I've got the Hik 1S on order with them.

It's grrrrrrreat to be back Dangard Ace!! I didn't know that it was a perfect transformation that was (for lack of better terminology) micronized. I will DEFINATELY be adding these to my collection, do you think they will go through the whole line again?

I was about to say: If she tolerates and even supports your toy hobby, then your GF's definitely a keeper.

But her sticking by your side during those hard times says more than enough.

...Looking at your list and the pictures in your first post's link, I think you're missing the original blue GBP-1S armor for the 1/48's.

Also, I don't think anyone's mentioned the Wave DYRL SDF-1 yet. It's definitely on the small size. But it is transformable, and it is the friggin' Macross afterall.

Thanks Mog, not only does she not mind that I collect, play console games and read comics, she ogles my collection, plays games WITH me and my kids (and ENJOYS it) and will pic up an occassional book and read it if she sees my conversation with the boys at the comic shop my be lengthy...yes she it a definate keeper, I majorly lucked up on this one!!!

As for the GPB-1 armor in the 1/48, normal blue variety, I think I may have that one (not pictured but it came out RIGHT around the time I had to give up collecting, I may have it, I may not) but just in case I'll put it on the list. The DYRL SDF-1, how tall is it? Does it seem fragile?

Ok, so to get back on topic and to reiterrate...I'm missing:

Macross Zero:

VF-0A Cannon Fodder

VF-0A with Ghost Booster Shin

VF-0S

SV-51r Ivanov

SV-51r Nora

SV-51 Cannon Fodder

1/48:

VF-1A Angel Birds

Vf-1J Stealth

VF-1 Stealth Super and Strike armor set

VF-1S Anniversary Edition

VF-1A Cannon Fodder

VF-1A Kakizaki Type

VF-1A Low Viz Woodland Camo

Vf-1A Low Viz Woodland Camo Parts

Vf-1A Urban Camo

VF-1A Urban Camo Parts

Macross Plus 1/60:

YF-19

YF-19 25th anniversary

YF-21

New VF 1/60 line: (someone please define these for me because if they're just reissues I don't wanna buy them)

VF-1S Focker SSP

VF-1A Hikaru SSP

VF-1J Hikaru Super Parts

Is there anything else from the TRANSFORMABLE line? I know there are other things like Beta treads, Cyclones etc that are floating around out there...

Sorry if I missed out but can we get some pics of these babies put up??

Sorry to get your hopes up but I don't think there is any job that's truly recession proof unless your working for the government or military. Also, women are a fickle lot... If you don't have enough money in the bank account or are down on your luck they want nothing to do with you... If your previous GF left you what makes you think the one you have is ne different. Its true love is blind.

You're right...my job's with the government/military, it's a GS position. The one that left was my ex wife...after I got out of the military and the money stopped coming she left, my GF's been there helping me when I was down hard and is now there with me while the streets are easier travelling...times are changing