mighty gorgon Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 (edited) Hi folks, work on the VF-4 is going sloooooow... I've been working for 2 weeks (without major success), on rendering the exhaust gases. So, I decided to jump back into modeller and start on a new project, a VF-11. I would love to model a 5000, but I still lack some references, so here is the result of the first day on the -11 at the modeller. Regds, Gorgon p.d.: 622 polys so far, mainly to get the proper shape of the nose. Edited March 23, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Very nice. Looking forward to more progress shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF22Red Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Lookin foward to seeing how this Valk progresses. Looking good so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scand Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Thats Beutiful! It makes me wanna go out and drop a lot of money on cg program. Looking forward to more pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myersjessee Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 can't wait to see more...Im going to print them for reference on the toy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodavan Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Nice work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted March 23, 2004 Author Share Posted March 23, 2004 can't wait to see more...Im going to print them for reference on the toy! So far is a rough sketch, based on the drawings on the... Damn! I don't have the reference here (at work!). And a question... If I use your model as reference and you use mine as reference... our models will get "recursive"???? Regds, Gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted March 28, 2004 Author Share Posted March 28, 2004 Most of the major volumes are already there, and still less than 1000 polys. Now, the REAL work starts... Regds, Gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 The profile is almost OK. Some parts (nose) are already in SubD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk16 Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 nice! this is a great start to a for a badass plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross_Fanboy Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Wow! The Thunderbolt is one of my favorite VFs! I look forward to seeing the completed thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Thats Beutiful! It makes me wanna go out and drop a lot of money on cg program. Looking forward to more pics. Why plop down enough money for 10+ 1/48s, when you can just use Blender? Just doing some pimping =) For more information: The Blender Homepage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Simply EXCELLENT mighty gorgon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnollman Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Sweet-as... looks great. The VF-11 is one of my favorites, but I'd sure as hell love to see that VF-5000 when you get it. That's another favorite.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 I love the VF-11. Can't wait to see how this turns out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 4, 2004 Author Share Posted April 4, 2004 Give me a couple of weeks... now I am on holidays, between mountains, woods & lakes (and bad weather). Not bad at all (photo), but too far from my PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 which program are you using Gorgon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 (edited) which program are you using Gorgon? It's LightWave 3D Version 7 or above. That little icon on his Statistics Pop-Up window is a dead give-away. By the way Gorgon, really nice start on one on my favorite VF designs. Keep those updates coming. Edited April 6, 2004 by mechaninac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwalker Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 Give me a couple of weeks... now I am on holidays, between mountains, woods & lakes (and bad weather). Not bad at all (photo), but too far from my PC Good photo!! For the rainbow: did you use photoshop? Looking good so far (not the rainbow, I mean the VF-11) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 how much does that program cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 9, 2004 Author Share Posted April 9, 2004 how much does that program cost? It's pretty expensive. At Amazon you'll get it for 1600 u$s. I am using 7.5... c or d... I don't remember, as I am some thousand miles from my rendering PC. Regds, Gorgon p.d. to Gerwalker: the rainbow was here a couple of days ago, but it's still raining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) Back from holidays got a couple of hours to work on the -11. Finished the major volumes and started detailing some of them in subpatch (nurbs), the green ones (the colors are used only to distinguish which parts are already in SubD). However... Edited April 11, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) ...some details in the underside (red arrow) don´t seem to fit very well. The VF-11 of Macross Plus is absolutely "flush" in the underside... Any help/suggestion will be greatly welcomed. Regds, Gorgon Edited April 11, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 the head goes there. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) the head goes there. lol "head"??? I thought this was a plane!!! now, the head goes there but there should be some fairing, 'cause is pretty flat, as shown in the Macross Plus OVA 1. I still cannot get a good fairing or the same height between arms and the head fairing (as in the Yamato toy). Edited April 12, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 (edited) My suggestion: if your not making this thing transform, and I assume you're not, just make the plane look 'right'. The VF-11 (and every other VF for that matter) is fudged in the animation to make each mode look good. Just do the same with your CG version. Be as accurate as possible without sacrificing the lines of the plane. I beleive this type of distortion is even done to the CG models in Mac Zero since Yamato had to replace the nose of the toy to maintain accuracy in fighter and battroid modes. Edited April 16, 2004 by Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Actually, I imagine by going CG they would hope to conserve the actual structures of the plane.. my impression was that they only made the nose swappable so the legs would have a place to mount without deforming the nose horribly. I think they're two versions of the same size nose, one with leg mounts, and one without. I do agree with that idea though, I'd say go for the looks, and make fighter mode look good. Once you've got that down, you can work it into a transformable model later if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 From Graham in this thread. The toy does not feature perfect transformation. The toy comes with two different swapable noses, one for battroid mode and one for fighter mode.This allows the toy to have a nose which is in-proportion for both modes, i.e. a long nose for fighter mode, and a shorter nose for battroid mode. You can do anything in CG, why limit yourself to real-world constraints? I think they used CG in Mac Zero so they could get more detailed images than would be possible with hand animation, not to get perfect transformation. Back on topic though, what ever gorgon decides, I can't wait to see the finished product. His VF-4 looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 its anime magic, just work some cg magic and have panels hiding inside sometihng that cover iut up in fighte rmode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 Agree with most comments... "anime magic" is at work here. With the help of some CG magic and "unauthorized creativity", things are looking better now. For the moment I plan to do it "fighter only", however at this point nothing prevents it to become a transformable model. I attach 2 images. The green sub-assemblies are already in NURBS. Regds, Gorgon (p.d.: I'll go back to the VF-4 for some final touches soon, I hope) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 24, 2004 Author Share Posted April 24, 2004 (edited) In this image you can see the fudging. The intakes are very "curvy" in the inside. With this I accomodate the head fairing and also the fact that in front views the intakes completely cover the rear engines/legs. From this angle they don't look 100% however. In any event I'll wait to see how they look when I cut the details of the intake afte the detailing of the mesh. Regds, Gorgon Edited April 24, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 The "Low Poly" version is finished, at 3074 polygons (I'll concentrate on the gun later). With a decent texture, this can be used for FS, background planes, etc... Some details should be fixed, but I'll concentrate now on the High Poly mesh. Regds, Gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 (edited) and here are a couple of "plastic" renders Edited April 25, 2004 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Not bad. Lookin' good so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodavan Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Very nice - good work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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