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10 hours ago, danth said:

Seriously, how has nobody else broken a finger on this thing? How do you fold it up in the forearm and not crush it against the inner arm or slice off fingers with the vertical stab?

Disclaimer: I don't own a Sentinel Legioss, so this may not apply due to possible peculiarities in its transformation. From my ownership of the Toynami Legioii I learned to basically transform everything else (bicep/forearm collapse, tailfins, etc) prior to stowing the hands. When everything else is already in place it only became necessary to pose the fingers such that they could fit into the hand cavity in the forearm and be able to close the arm cover without resistance. Never had a broken hand on any of the Toynamis while following that procedure, even though those hands were notorious for breakage and their apparent construction from dessicated artificial cheese spread.

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6 hours ago, Hiriyu said:

From my ownership of the Toynami Legioii I learned to basically transform everything else (bicep/forearm collapse, tailfins, etc) prior to stowing the hands.

Good idea. I'm sure I would have thought of it eventually...

Yeah, that will eliminate a few pinch points.

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16 hours ago, Mommar said:

I think it’s cool looking.

It is!

I think that's part of why I find it funny. Most Robotech fan designs are laughably bad. This one is super ridiculous (Mospiigaa?) yet actually kind of works!

Seeing how the Inbit appropriated the human form, and the Armo-soldier idea, I could see them doing this!

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1 minute ago, roboemo said:

So a dumb question.
What was the new Mospeada artbook again?
Not the Complete Works, the other?
Between that and the new one, which one should be better (but both of them are expensive)?

The Entertainment Archive Genesis Climber MOSPEADA File?

Neither book was particularly expensive... the new one is less than $30 US (not counting shipping).

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On 10/7/2020 at 1:43 AM, roboemo said:

Yes, that one.

anything new added to it?

My copy rolled in a few moments ago, so I will review it shortly and post a review/comparison for you. :) 

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On 10/7/2020 at 1:43 AM, roboemo said:

Yes, that one.

anything new added to it?

Hm...

Entertainment Archive Alpha: Genesis Climber MOSPEADA File is a bigger book than the previous MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book.  I think it's one standard paper size bigger in terms of what it was printed on.  The first forty or so actual pages of the book - discounting the introduction and table of contents - are color pages devoted to MOSPEADA's toys and model kits.  There's a ~11 page article on Genesis Breaker with the same art we've seen in various promotional materials elsewhere.  That's followed by the color art pages for all of the show's mecha lineart, and the print quality is NOTICEABLY inferior to the MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book.  I'm baffled as to why the color art is all noticeably yellow-tinged.  It's not yellowing of the original art, which would be uneven, they're like tinted yellow for some reason.  There's a little more text on them in MOSPEADA File but art itself is printed at just about the same size as in the Complete Art Works book.  The line art section has the same weird yellowing problem on its color sections, and the art is printed slightly smaller than it'd been previously in Complete Art Works (apparently to fit eight model sheets onto a page?).  Some of the black and white lineart looks inexplicably dirtier in this new book too, and the art shows signs of someone inexpertly photoshopping inventory numbers and other markings off the art that were present in the previous book.  Some of the art is helpfully printed in larger sizes than the Complete Art Works book, which makes reading the text handwritten on it easier, but the actual print quality still feels inferior with the uncleaned black specks on many of the pieces.  The one advantage MOSPEADA File has is that a lot of art that was previously printed at index card size or smaller in the episode-specific section of Complete Art Works is reprinted larger in this book like Rainy Boy's bike and those of the various motorcycle gangs.  The stats are unhelpfully scattered around the sections, mixed with the various normal commentary instead of being called out in specific blocks for easy reference.  At the very end it has slightly more preproduction material than Complete Art Works did, but it's nothing new if you've seen the Imai Files.

All told, I would say Complete Art Works is probably the better reference book and better quality book overall... but the MOSPEADA File book does have size going for it in terms of the readability of its line art.  It's somewhat perplexing that the character bios got left out entirely though.

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4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Hm...

Entertainment Archive Alpha: Genesis Climber MOSPEADA File is a bigger book than the previous MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book.  I think it's one standard paper size bigger in terms of what it was printed on.  The first forty or so actual pages of the book - discounting the introduction and table of contents - are color pages devoted to MOSPEADA's toys and model kits.  There's a ~11 page article on Genesis Breaker with the same art we've seen in various promotional materials elsewhere.  That's followed by the color art pages for all of the show's mecha lineart, and the print quality is NOTICEABLY inferior to the MOSPEADA: Complete Art Works book.  I'm baffled as to why the color art is all noticeably yellow-tinged.  It's not yellowing of the original art, which would be uneven, they're like tinted yellow for some reason.  There's a little more text on them in MOSPEADA File but art itself is printed at just about the same size as in the Complete Art Works book.  The line art section has the same weird yellowing problem on its color sections, and the art is printed slightly smaller than it'd been previously in Complete Art Works (apparently to fit eight model sheets onto a page?).  Some of the black and white lineart looks inexplicably dirtier in this new book too, and the art shows signs of someone inexpertly photoshopping inventory numbers and other markings off the art that were present in the previous book.  Some of the art is helpfully printed in larger sizes than the Complete Art Works book, which makes reading the text handwritten on it easier, but the actual print quality still feels inferior with the uncleaned black specks on many of the pieces.  The one advantage MOSPEADA File has is that a lot of art that was previously printed at index card size or smaller in the episode-specific section of Complete Art Works is reprinted larger in this book like Rainy Boy's bike and those of the various motorcycle gangs.  The stats are unhelpfully scattered around the sections, mixed with the various normal commentary instead of being called out in specific blocks for easy reference.  At the very end it has slightly more preproduction material than Complete Art Works did, but it's nothing new if you've seen the Imai Files.

All told, I would say Complete Art Works is probably the better reference book and better quality book overall... but the MOSPEADA File book does have size going for it in terms of the readability of its line art.  It's somewhat perplexing that the character bios got left out entirely though.

Thanks.

To be honest, Complete Art Works seems to be out of print.

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17 minutes ago, roboemo said:

To be honest, Complete Art Works seems to be out of print.

It'll pop up on Mandarake and other reseller sites from time to time at a reasonable price... just don't humor that insane eBay seller who wants almost three hundred dollars for it.

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Thanks Seto Kaiba for your review.

About art quality, it makes me feel sources and materials they had access to were pretty bad... and we can add a bad use of  image processing software...

 

So more i see this mook, more this idea appears : print my own personal artbook, with good sources, good materials, like a doujin...

 

But it's just a wish...

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On 10/8/2020 at 7:17 PM, danth said:

Nice! No punches pulled.

Thanks. Yea, Sentinel has been really iffy with quality over the past 3 or 4 years and now it's at the point where I feel like I just don't get a solid product from them.

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1 hour ago, akim said:

 and we can add a bad use of  image processing software...

It may not actually be bad software per se, it may just be that the have a monitor improperly setup, and they colour corrected the images to what their monitor shows, not what the artwork actually looks like when printed.  (The opposite extreme is their scanner "colour corrected" the images, and no one bothered to colour correct the scans.)

Another possibility is the printers getting the ink mixture wrong (or the ink balance was slipping in the part of the batch you guys got).

 

So many simple things can muck up graphic design and printing.

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10 hours ago, sketchley said:

So many simple things can muck up graphic design and printing.

True, but regardless of which one (or combination thereof) was responsible, it's still weird and slightly upsetting that nobody seems to have reviewed a proof copy of this book before it went to market... the yellowness of the color art isn't subtle.  It's eye-catching and looks really really bad.

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Hi all, possible dumb question here but can the Sentinel Legioss hold the Gunpod as you see in my picture? 

So far I've only seen pics of this new Legioss one-handing it. 

 

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8 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said:

I'm guessing those arms need to be a bit longer for that pose to happen properly. 

No, the Sentinel can pull off that pose no problem...

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Maybe @jenius needs longer arms.  :p

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10 hours ago, sqidd said:

Tell that to the rap industry.

Also, it's not.

https://onlineartrights.org/issues/sampling-and-appropriation/

I would disagree. That was not sampling, that was appropriation of an entire work, nothing transformative about it, full appropriation and misrepresentation. I have literally pursued near-identical cases for clients...

... but I don't want to get into a rant. Not the right thread for it.

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9 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I would disagree. That was not sampling, that was appropriation of an entire work, nothing transformative about it, full appropriation and misrepresentation. I have literally pursued near-identical cases for clients...

... but I don't want to get into a rant. Not the right thread for it.

Word games.

 

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13 hours ago, tekering said:

No, the Sentinel can pull off that pose no problem...

 

13 hours ago, jenius said:

Still looks awkward to me...

Combine Jenius's right arm pose and Tekering's left arm pose and it might look pretty good.

(Right/left of the Armo Soldier, not the viewer).

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36 minutes ago, jenius said:

Stick to the thread topic... See what I did there... Stick. That's word games.

Should that be STICK or STIG? :spiteful: 

It's a good thing the MW boards are not ruled by a merciless REY, because we'd all be FUKE'd, issued YELLOW card warnings, and would probably have to pay a huge MINT of a fine.

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46 minutes ago, Mog said:

Should that be STICK or STIG? :spiteful: 

It's a good thing the MW boards are not ruled by a merciless REY, because we'd all be FUKE'd, issued YELLOW card warnings, and would probably have to pay a huge MINT of a fine.

That would blow in a most superior way.

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