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So I just rewatched Macross Frontier and had a few questions about what happens after certain points...

1. Is there any extra material about what happen to Shin from Macross Zero and if how/when he returned to NUNS?

2. Depending on which is canon, Macross Frontier TV or Movie, what happens to Alto, Ranka, and Sheryl after events of TV or Movie?

Inquiring minds have to know! 

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8 hours ago, Aaadriiann said:

1. Is there any extra material about what happen to Shin from Macross Zero and if how/when he returned to NUNS?

Nope.  The most we see/hear of Shin Kudo or Sara Nome after the ending of Macross Zero is when time-displaced versions of the main cast (Shin, Sara, Mao, Nora, and D.D.) from during the OVA's events briefly appear on the planet Uroboros in 2060 due to the influence of a Fold Evil that a rogue NUNS VF-X Special Forces unit is screwing with.

 

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2. Depending on which is canon, Macross Frontier TV or Movie, what happens to Alto, Ranka, and Sheryl after events of TV or Movie?

"Canon" is a word that is difficult to apply to Macross.  Shoji Kawamori's attitude towards continuity amounts to a "broad strokes" canon, and he's often opined that he sees each Macross title as a dramatization of a "true" history.  (When you get right down to it, it's that he just wants to tell his stories and not get bogged down in minutae.)

Official publications like Macross Chronicle generally favor the "series" version of any given story for timeline purposes, though as with DYRL they often acknowledge movie-only things as things that exist in their setting too but under a slightly different context.  Examples include the movie VF-1 being a later block version of the VF-1 than the TV VF-1, or both of Exsedol's forms being true... one being his miclone form and one his giant form.

As is customary for Macross, we don't really have any significant information about what happens to the characters after their story ends.  Kawamori likes to move on once a character's story has ended, rather than have them hang around once they're no longer the focus of the story.

Ranka and Sheryl are implied to have continued their music careers after the events of the series, but that's about all.

The only hard info I can recall comes from non-official material like Variable Fighter Master File, which has some minor remarks that confirm that Ranka and Sheryl were still touring as idol singers into the 2060s.  One entry describes a New UN Spacy squad which pulled escort duty during one of Ranka's tour stops on an emigrant planet in 2062 painting one of their VF-25Cs with her likeness to commemorate her visit there, and another describes the SMS bodyguard detail assigned to Sheryl once she started working out of Macross Olympia temporarily being redesignated a special unit "Queen's Knights" with modex numbers picked by Sheryl to match her and Alto's birthdays (Aircraft 1123 and 727).

EDIT: The most we usually get when a past character is referenced is a brief and usually minimal statement of what they're up to... like Basara still bumming around space c.2060, or Kim Kabirov having stayed in the NUNS long enough to become a General.

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3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

In before Newbie & Short Questions thread merge... 

Nope.  The most we see/hear of Shin Kudo or Sara Nome after the ending of Macross Zero is when time-displaced versions of the main cast (Shin, Sara, Mao, Nora, and D.D.) from during the OVA's events briefly appear on the planet Uroboros in 2060 due to the influence of a Fold Evil that a rogue NUNS VF-X Special Forces unit is screwing with.

 

"Canon" is a word that is difficult to apply to Macross.  Shoji Kawamori's attitude towards continuity amounts to a "broad strokes" canon, and he's often opined that he sees each Macross title as a dramatization of a "true" history.  (When you get right down to it, it's that he just wants to tell his stories and not get bogged down in minutae.)

Official publications like Macross Chronicle generally favor the "series" version of any given story for timeline purposes, though as with DYRL they often acknowledge movie-only things as things that exist in their setting too but under a slightly different context.  Examples include the movie VF-1 being a later block version of the VF-1 than the TV VF-1, or both of Exsedol's forms being true... one being his miclone form and one his giant form.

As is customary for Macross, we don't really have any significant information about what happens to the characters after their story ends.  Kawamori likes to move on once a character's story has ended, rather than have them hang around once they're no longer the focus of the story.

Ranka and Sheryl are implied to have continued their music careers after the events of the series, but that's about all.

The only hard info I can recall comes from non-official material like Variable Fighter Master File, which has some minor remarks that confirm that Ranka and Sheryl were still touring as idol singers into the 2060s.  One entry describes a New UN Spacy squad which pulled escort duty during one of Ranka's tour stops on an emigrant planet in 2062 painting one of their VF-25Cs with her likeness to commemorate her visit there, and another describes the SMS bodyguard detail assigned to Sheryl once she started working out of Macross Olympia temporarily being redesignated a special unit "Queen's Knights" with modex numbers picked by Sheryl to match her and Alto's birthdays (Aircraft 1123 and 727).

EDIT: The most we usually get when a past character is referenced is a brief and usually minimal statement of what they're up to... like Basara still bumming around space c.2060, or Kim Kabirov having stayed in the NUNS long enough to become a General.

Interesting. I have noticed that Kawamori does have that tendency to move forward after each series is done. I figured maybe the Master Files or other supplementary material may have slight mentions, which you have indicated there are. Thanks for your wealth of knowledge!

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20 hours ago, Aaadriiann said:

So I just rewatched Macross Frontier and had a few questions about what happens after certain points...

1. Is there any extra material about what happen to Shin from Macross Zero and if how/when he returned to NUNS?

My personal head canon is that Shin and Sara were folded to another Protoculture Colony world and found themselves on a similar city as Hikaru and Misa.  The two of them survived for years on their own, Shin rebuilding his damaged VF-0 with Protoculture tech and became parents to Nekki Basara.  Basara later escaped in the VF-0 using the Bird Human as a fold booster after which he met Ray.  Shin and Sara then lived out the rest of their days cut off from the rest of the galaxy.

 

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On 2/6/2020 at 9:47 AM, Seto Kaiba said:

In before Newbie & Short Questions thread merge... 

Nope.  The most we see/hear of Shin Kudo or Sara Nome after the ending of Macross Zero is when time-displaced versions of the main cast (Shin, Sara, Mao, Nora, and D.D.) from during the OVA's events briefly appear on the planet Uroboros in 2060 due to the influence of a Fold Evil that a rogue NUNS VF-X Special Forces unit is screwing with.

 

"Canon" is a word that is difficult to apply to Macross.  Shoji Kawamori's attitude towards continuity amounts to a "broad strokes" canon, and he's often opined that he sees each Macross title as a dramatization of a "true" history.  (When you get right down to it, it's that he just wants to tell his stories and not get bogged down in minutae.)

Official publications like Macross Chronicle generally favor the "series" version of any given story for timeline purposes, though as with DYRL they often acknowledge movie-only things as things that exist in their setting too but under a slightly different context.  Examples include the movie VF-1 being a later block version of the VF-1 than the TV VF-1, or both of Exsedol's forms being true... one being his miclone form and one his giant form.

As is customary for Macross, we don't really have any significant information about what happens to the characters after their story ends.  Kawamori likes to move on once a character's story has ended, rather than have them hang around once they're no longer the focus of the story.

Ranka and Sheryl are implied to have continued their music careers after the events of the series, but that's about all.

The only hard info I can recall comes from non-official material like Variable Fighter Master File, which has some minor remarks that confirm that Ranka and Sheryl were still touring as idol singers into the 2060s.  One entry describes a New UN Spacy squad which pulled escort duty during one of Ranka's tour stops on an emigrant planet in 2062 painting one of their VF-25Cs with her likeness to commemorate her visit there, and another describes the SMS bodyguard detail assigned to Sheryl once she started working out of Macross Olympia temporarily being redesignated a special unit "Queen's Knights" with modex numbers picked by Sheryl to match her and Alto's birthdays (Aircraft 1123 and 727).

EDIT: The most we usually get when a past character is referenced is a brief and usually minimal statement of what they're up to... like Basara still bumming around space c.2060, or Kim Kabirov having stayed in the NUNS long enough to become a General.

I like the fact that Kawamori isn't concerned so much by "canon"; it makes for far more possibilities in Macross and allows things like Macross II to exist and impart their own take on the franchise. Although sometimes I'd like to know a little more on the histories of characters after their story arcs, I understand that unless a specific "chapter" (how I see each story fitting into Macross overall) has a purpose in coming around again later on (such as Max and Millia aboard the 7th fleet), then it's done and set.

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On 2/6/2020 at 11:47 AM, Seto Kaiba said:

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EDIT: The most we usually get when a past character is referenced is a brief and usually minimal statement of what they're up to... like Basara still bumming around space c.2060, or Kim Kabirov having stayed in the NUNS long enough to become a General.

Or Isamu working for SMS :D

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17 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

I like the fact that Kawamori isn't concerned so much by "canon"; it makes for far more possibilities in Macross and allows things like Macross II to exist and impart their own take on the franchise. Although sometimes I'd like to know a little more on the histories of characters after their story arcs, I understand that unless a specific "chapter" (how I see each story fitting into Macross overall) has a purpose in coming around again later on (such as Max and Millia aboard the 7th fleet), then it's done and set.

It works well in the sense that it keeps new Macross features largely accessible to new viewers... because it's an effective way to prevent the kind of continuity lockout problems that the Universal Century Gundam shows have become increasingly prone to.

On the other hand, the more inquisitive casual viewers and fans can find this position frustrating since it makes it difficult to have a definitive answer to many questions.  This, I suspect, is why Macross publications try to go both ways on it... Kawamori has his view, while some printed works take a firmer attitude towards continuity.  Everyone gets what they want, and (almost) nobody goes home unhappy.

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9 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

It works well in the sense that it keeps new Macross features largely accessible to new viewers... because it's an effective way to prevent the kind of continuity lockout problems that the Universal Century Gundam shows have become increasingly prone to.

On the other hand, the more inquisitive casual viewers and fans can find this position frustrating since it makes it difficult to have a definitive answer to many questions.  This, I suspect, is why Macross publications try to go both ways on it... Kawamori has his view, while some printed works take a firmer attitude towards continuity.  Everyone gets what they want, and (almost) nobody goes home unhappy.

Since I am the latter viewer/fan described I also appreciate the with the wealth of knowledge, like yourself! :D

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