Jump to content

Bandai DX Chogokin 1/48 VF-1


IXTL

Recommended Posts

25 minutes ago, F360 said:

ok, this tax think is making me jump back on my desk to take a closer look.   And the future looks pretty grim :vava:

The price of the Sentinel Final Dancuga is listed at ¥45,055  (this is the price with the 10% japanese tax)

(before ,,,if you add this to your cart for international orders they will take 10% off  making the item prices at 40549 yen)

Now,  when you add this to your cart the new price is 44,441 yen.  which is only 614 yen off , that is only around 1.3 % off.:unsure:    (shipping to san Francisco 8.5% sales tax)

If you change shipping address to a city with different sales tax the new amazon price will change too.  44,750 yen (shipping to Daly City 9.2 % sales tax)

So looking at that, it like Amazon is taking the japanese 10% tax off and then add in the state city sales tax of where its shipping to.:(

Ah, that would explain why I'm not noticing it.

 

Just checked, one item went from ¥11,380 to ¥10,345 (¥1035 reduction, 10%). This is a 3rd party sold item.

Another went from ¥7978 to ¥7924, or going from 10% to 9.25% tax. This is a pre-order sold by AJ.

So it seems that they are including sales tax directly in the item price, but only for items sold by AJ directly.

 

The above are not existing orders, they're prices of things in my cart after setting a Cali shipping address.

Well, I guess at least Mandarake/Jungle/HLJ/CDJ/AmiAmi/HS still don't charge tax.

Edited by Sanity is Optional
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Sanity is Optional said:

Ah, that would explain why I'm not noticing it.

 

Just checked, one item went from ¥11,380 to ¥10,345 (¥1035 reduction, 10%). This is a 3rd party sold item.

Another went from ¥7978 to ¥7924, or going from 10% to 9.25% tax. This is a pre-order sold by AJ.

So it seems that they are including sales tax directly in the item price, but only for items sold by AJ directly.

 

The above are not existing orders, they're prices of things in my cart after setting a Cali shipping address.

Well, I guess at least Mandarake/Jungle/HLJ/CDJ/AmiAmi/HS still don't charge tax.

I think we were focused on the US state tax displayed on the actual page rather than the actual amount being charged. We can clearly see from @treatment's attempt with the Dancouga that the listed price for the item only went down by less than 1000 yen at check out without shipping when it should be at least down by 4500 yen bringing it to 40K something yen without shipping. He mistook the displayed price as it not having the Japan consumption tax when in fact it does and only gets deducted when checking out. The state tax is built in to the final item price. Well, so much for that. I bet though it won't stop people from preordering Macross stuff from Amazon Japan. Rule of law with Bandai pre-order madness nights: Get it wherever you can.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A scene from a dinner party with the rich and politicians.

Politician(s) - "We need to squeeze more money out of the people"

Bezos - "We can start charging tax for international orders. It's not like the plebs are going to stop buying. Will that help?"

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, sqidd said:

A scene from a dinner party with the rich and politicians.

Politician(s) - "We need to squeeze more money out of the people"

Bezos - "We can start charging tax for international orders. It's not like the plebs are going to stop buying. Will that help?"

 

 

Bandai CEO - "Look another pre-order sold out in record time. They won't stop buying especially those desperate fools at Macrossworld."

 

Everybody at the dinner party:

 

BriskMeagerLadybug-size_restricted.gif

Edited by crackpot
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, crackpot said:

Bandai CEO - "Look another pre-order sold out in record time. They won't stop buying especially those desperate fools at Macrossworld."

 

Everybody at the dinner party:

 

BriskMeagerLadybug-size_restricted.gif

True story!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, crackpot said:

I think we were focused on the US state tax displayed on the actual page rather than the actual amount being charged. We can clearly see from @treatment's attempt with the Dancouga that the listed price for the item only went down by less than 1000 yen at check out without shipping when it should be at least down by 4500 yen bringing it to 40K something yen without shipping. He mistook the displayed price as it not having the Japan consumption tax when in fact it does and only gets deducted when checking out. The state tax is built in to the final item price. Well, so much for that. I bet though it won't stop people from preordering Macross stuff from Amazon Japan. Rule of law with Bandai pre-order madness nights: Get it wherever you can.

 

I didn't mistake it.

Your original assertions were:

13 hours ago, crackpot said:

For those in the US that ordered through Amazon Japan, you might get a little surprise with your Fockers... state sales tax. 

 

13 hours ago, crackpot said:

The amount will change on the final invoice once it's ready to ship. Some reports have come in from other forums with the recently released Sentinel Final Dancouga. Now, it may be AJ's mistake but we'll see.

 

You mentioned we might get a surpise about state sales-tax.

That's why I was looking if my (cali) "state sales tax" is being added as well in the final charge.

It wasn't...

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, treatment said:

 

I didn't mistake it.

Your original assertions were:

 

 

You mentioned we might get a surpise about state sales-tax.

That's why I was looking if my (cali) "state sales tax" is being added as well in the final charge.

It wasn't...

 

 

It is. Look at your own photos closely. It has been added to the final item price. The product page has it at 45,055 yen. That's a discounted price but includes the 10% Japanese consumption tax. Without that it should be only around over 40.5K yen. On your check out page it is 44,133 yen. Your California tax is included there but not disclosed.

In comparison to mine:

Screenshot_20201015-121758_Chrome.thumb.jpg.9fce5345092040ca14e12d2b8f5436e7.jpg

 

On checkout:

 

Screenshot_20201015-121819_Chrome.thumb.jpg.94224e8ec12db99a777db3ff82fb6d6b.jpg

 

My listed item price started higher than yours yet it ends up lower than your checkout price because my state sales tax rate is lower than California.

My point stands. It may not be present on the original preorder amount but when it ships out, it will be added to the final cost. So surprise!

Edited by crackpot
Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, crackpot said:

It is. Look at your own photos closely. It has been added to the final item price. The product page has it at 45,055 yen. That's a discounted price but includes the 10% Japanese consumption tax. Without that it should be only around over 40.5K yen. On your check out page it is 44,133 yen. Your California tax is included there but not disclosed.

In comparison to mine:

Screenshot_20201015-121758_Chrome.thumb.jpg.9fce5345092040ca14e12d2b8f5436e7.jpg

 

On checkout:

 

Screenshot_20201015-121819_Chrome.thumb.jpg.94224e8ec12db99a777db3ff82fb6d6b.jpg

 

My listed item price started higher than yours yet it ends up lower than your checkout price because my state sales tax rate is lower than California.

My point stands. It may not be present on the original preorder amount but when it ships out, it will be added to the final cost. So surprise!

 

The math doesn't quite add up.  The pricing went up a bit today, too.

Nevertheless, my cali state-tax is 7.75%.

Sentinel msrp is 45000y  without the tokyo-tax

amzon-japan msrp+tokyotax = 49500y

amzon 9% discount pricing as of last nite = 45005y

the final charge for me was at 44,133y as of last night..

 

 

edit:

redid the math and gotten close:

45000y (sentinel msrp) - 9% amzn-discount = 40950y

40950y + cali 7.75% = 44124y.

 

 

 

 

Edited by treatment
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, treatment said:

amzon 9% discount pricing as of last nite = 45005y

9% discounted price with 10% Japanese sales tax included.

I think you should refer to @F360's post for a better explanation. Seems California online sales tax factors in which city you reside as well. 

We gotta know the actual price without the 10% JP tax that Amazon JP offered at that time to really compute this properly. It's not as simple as deducting 10% from the listed price similar to how computing for Paypal fees work.

Either way, US online sales tax is being implemented and is here to stay.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, treatment said:

We can hope that our pre-October PO pricings from AmJP gets grandfathered in.

It would be interesting for shops like Ami and Manda since they already do add the tokyo-tax on their item-listings...

 

@anubis20's Dancouga was a pre-order and had the tax added for the final charge. 

I doubt this will apply to other JP stores as long as they don't have a nexus here in the US. Amazon JP is still under Amazon US so that's why we have this situation. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, crackpot said:

Bandai CEO - "Look another pre-order sold out in record time. They won't stop buying especially those desperate fools at Macrossworld."

 

Everybody at the dinner party:

 

BriskMeagerLadybug-size_restricted.gif

 

Bandai CEO: "At least half the people at Macrossworld were able to get in a PO. Time to reduce production."

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just to add fuel to the fire, I heard that the State tax may be added to the item price directly just like the local Japanese tax that is part of the price for local residents. 
 

So as some have said in this thread, the price used to drop by the 10% local tax when a foreign buyer added the item to their cart, but now if your State has an online purchase tax it replaces the local Japanese tax in the purchase price and does not show up as a separate line item in the invoice. It’s buried in the purchase price itself. So the price does not drop by 10% like it used to. 
 

Now I’m in Canada so I’ve always had to pay import tax on Amazon Japan. But the Canadian taxes show up as Import Fees on the invoice so at least it’s obvious what I’m paying. 13% in my case. 
 

Another oddity is that for some reason in the last year or so Amazon Japan have been refunding 100% of my import taxes about a month after delivery. I have no idea why but it was awesome. I noticed on my last purchase that it’s been way over a month and I was not refunded my import taxes this time. So something has changed. They may have had a glitch and fixed it. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

sigh...

It has been a month and a half since I first received an email from Nippon-Yasan saying that my DX Chogokin VF-1 Super Parts pre-order from June 2019 was finally being processed.....  and I am still waiting for them to finish "processing".

<sarcasm> YAY Nippon-Yasan </sarcasm>

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, Shizuka the Cat said:

sigh...

It has been a month and a half since I first received an email from Nippon-Yasan saying that my DX Chogokin VF-1 Super Parts pre-order from June 2019 was finally being processed.....  and I am still waiting for them to finish "processing".

<sarcasm> YAY Nippon-Yasan </sarcasm>

 

Sounds about right. We have a fun thread commiserating on it.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/16/2020 at 6:57 AM, Paco Grande said:

So as some have said in this thread, the price used to drop by the 10% local tax when a foreign buyer added the item to their cart, but now if your State has an online purchase tax it replaces the local Japanese tax in the purchase price and does not show up as a separate line item in the invoice. It’s buried in the purchase price itself. So the price does not drop by 10% like it used to. 

I see local state tax being added to my invoice. :( I guess tax free purchases really don't exist anymore.....first amazon US, then eBay, then amazon JP. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/18/2020 at 3:47 PM, Shizuka the Cat said:

sigh...

It has been a month and a half since I first received an email from Nippon-Yasan saying that my DX Chogokin VF-1 Super Parts pre-order from June 2019 was finally being processed.....  and I am still waiting for them to finish "processing".

<sarcasm> YAY Nippon-Yasan </sarcasm>

 

Did you order more than one set? I'm asking because there appears to be a pattern where single set orders are sent out earlier. I received my super pack set many months ago and they also respond pretty fast to my tickets to change my shipping method. I also thought that their supplier didn't have enough units so NY has been telling people that they can't get the super parts anymore. So they should be giving you store credit. I don't agree with the store credit thing but that's what NY does, unfortunately. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Paco Grande said:

Did you order more than one set? I'm asking because there appears to be a pattern where single set orders are sent out earlier. I received my super pack set many months ago and they also respond pretty fast to my tickets to change my shipping method. I also thought that their supplier didn't have enough units so NY has been telling people that they can't get the super parts anymore. So they should be giving you store credit. I don't agree with the store credit thing but that's what NY does, unfortunately. 

Just 1 set for me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I received an email from Nippon Yasan yesterday telling me that my order of Fast Packs were being prepared to ship. Then late last night I received an email that they had shipped and are now in the hands of UPS. The number shows up in the "My UPS" app.  Now a delivery date is "pending" but that is to be expected since they just received it. All signs are pointing to them actually arriving in the not to distant future.  

Edited by Felix
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Felix said:

I received an email from Nippon Yasan yesterday telling me that my order of Fast Packs were being prepared to ship. Then late last night I received an email that they had shipped and are now in the hands of UPS. The number shows up in the "My UPS" app.  Now a delivery date is "pending" but that is to be expected since they just received it. All signs are pointing to them actually arriving in the not to distant future.  

When was your order initially placed?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, bleecher said:

When was your order initially placed?

It was placed on June 8th of 2019, so quite a long time ago. I think that is the day they went up for pre-order. 

Edited by Felix
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...