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I think a lot of people here are forgetting that bandai is taking care of its primary market, which is Japan.   They're not conducting these new releases and preorders for the sake of the rest of the planet.  If they did, you could be sure that it would go much easier, smoother.  Any talk about the brand drying because of westerners not being able to buy their products isn't an issue, because they're not focusing on the world, they're focusing on japan...

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@myk

sad truth. Other items that are sold worldwide, I have no problem ordering it locally (and sometimes it is even cheaper than getting it from Japan, like Metal build and SOCs, etc). Put it simply, a worldwide product gets worldwide allocation.

 

Macross being only applicable to Japan due to copyrights issue, will only get Japan allocation.

 

edit: sad pricing on the supers. Ill take my chances on release date, hopefully, something comes up from Amazon JP

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32 minutes ago, eggy99 said:

Historically speaking I think Bandai has been getting the balance right. Their Macross DX releases never have shelf warmers and we’re all  still gaga about them. 

scarcity fuels desire. :(

i think scarcity on its own doesnt fuel desire as much as quality/price/branding does..:rolleyes:

although for one of its kind releases, like the yf-30 or vf-31A, scarcity in that "product/mold/shape" certainly fuels desire :p 

8 minutes ago, myk said:

I think a lot of people here are forgetting that bandai is taking care of its primary market, which is Japan.   They're not conducting these new releases and preorders for the sake of the rest of the planet.  If they did, you could be sure that it would go much easier, smoother.  Any talk about the brand drying because of westerners not being able to buy their products isn't an issue, because they're not focusing on the world, they're focusing on japan...

Point isnt abt westerners or japan, but rather scalpers becoming a barrier to get the product out to consumers.
We havent got to the point where the scalpers have totally cornered the macross DX market (and i need to emphasize Macross DX chogokin as HMR's dont face scalping madness), but in the event they do, it might really pose a problem for bandai's Macross DX chogokin brand

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2 hours ago, Guyffon said:

I guess NY already saw how nin nin crept up in price and said, thats amateur hour, let me show you how its done and came up with 35k

I've had two experiences with NY--one bad (horrible packaging and damaged item) and one good.  Anyone have experience with Nin Nin?  The reviews are mixed from what I've Googled... I've seen some bad reviews out there, but more with PO cancellations rather than packaging/service.

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31 minutes ago, eggy99 said:

I’m resorting to getting a friend in Japan to buy the Super packs from P Bandai for myself and a work colleague. Uuugh, still don’t have a PO for Focker yet. :(

Ask your friend to go to bic camera at akihabara on release day, they should have some in stock.

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1 hour ago, seti88 said:

If the consumer can’t experience the product, they will be accustomed to forget abt it. Or live without it so to speak.

 

Bandai is clearly not having an issue selling every unit they make....in about 5min. They are headed in the opposite direction of "going out of business". One could argue that by making them scarce/hard to get they have increased the desirability. 

Sure, some people will simply stop buying. Or buy less. But, they could make up for that and then some with people that get hooked into "the hunt".

You're looking at this from your perspective. There are other perspectives out there.

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16 minutes ago, seti88 said:

i think scarcity on its own doesnt fuel desire as much as quality/price/branding does..:rolleyes:

 

To you. Not everyone thinks like you do. No judgement, just pointing out that across the human spectrum there are a lot of differences in what motivates people. 

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21 hours ago, sqidd said:

-Roy never had them in the show. I'm not a "cannon slave" but I'm not interested adding non cannon stuff to my Roy display. I have plenty of cannon stuff to fill the shelves up.

-I'm not interested in them for a potential Hikaru TV Skull One. My Hikaru display is done for the most part. The only thing that could change is replacing the Arcadia GBP with a DX. And putting a "Roy" (with Hikaru's name on it) in the Hikaru display doesn't interest me at all.

-As far as red tipped missiles go. I have elevindy billion missile sets. I'd paint one if I felt I needed a red tip set.

So yay for me! No PO stress!:yahoo:

 

 

11 minutes ago, sqidd said:

I scored three Roy's and two TV Packs/Red Missiles.:good:

Couldn't resist, huh? Lol!

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33 minutes ago, sqidd said:

Bandai is clearly not having an issue selling every unit they make....in about 5min. They are headed in the opposite direction of "going out of business". One could argue that by making them scarce/hard to get they have increased the desirability. 

Sure, some people will simply stop buying. Or buy less. But, they could make up for that and then some with people that get hooked into "the hunt".

You're looking at this from your perspective. There are other perspectives out there.

Oh yes, i certainly agree bandai isnt going out of biz. Definitely not because of macross. :rolleyes:

Branding includes the impression of quality/price/exclusivity or joy in your mind when you receive the product. Its this branding i mean, that gets wasted/dies when the consumer doesnt get to receive the product as smoothly as possible.

Just like when one gets rude customer service during buying their favourite branded item. It will cloud your experience of the brand, when they use it after, even tho one might have a very good impression of the brand.

28 minutes ago, sqidd said:

To you. Not everyone thinks like you do. No judgement, just pointing out that across the human spectrum there are a lot of differences in what motivates people. 

None taken, we are all fans here! :yahoo: My view is from bandai's branding effort in driving us to buy it.

Yes i agree there are lots of motivations amongst collectors! Like some just go for MISB collections!

Not me tho! ^_^:lol: I like to swoosh em! :lol:

 

 

  p.s. btw its canon not "cannon", unless of course you mean ....cannons!

Ok shall zip it....am not a grammer prof....  apologies :hi:

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27 minutes ago, crackpot said:

 

Couldn't resist, huh? Lol!

 

Just now, FattyMoBookyButt said:

If sqidd can hold out, I can hold out.

If sqidd can hold out, I can hold out.

If sqidd can hold out, I can hold out.

Fuuuuuggggg...

Yep, I'm weak!:rofl:

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6 hours ago, seti88 said:

Yeah i paid the first round yesterday. Then they cancelled today.

But hopefully you get it. :good: 

Am not gonna feel pressured to get one. Its a lottery to me now. :p

I've learned with FromJapan that if they let you submit a request for quote, they'll let the first payment round happen even if they can't actually place the order, so I don't get my hopes up. They don't check to see if they can place the order in advance of the payment request, so for TWE items they usually end up refunding your payment with an apology unless you happen to submit a request--and pay--within a short time window after the item becomes available on the P-Bandai site. It's only marginally less stressful than full PO Madness. Enough people had their orders cancelled yesterday that by the time FJ asked for payment from me last night, I cancelled mine since I knew it was going to happen anyway.

5 hours ago, Sanity is Optional said:

That's in line with prices from third party sellers on Amazon Japan the morning after PO Madness, which then climbed to ¥38,500 before dropping to ¥37,500 today. So, NY is "competitively" priced, but it's still a lot to pay. Prices on release day should be more reasonable.

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Honest question here.

Can anyone explain me the logic of showing TV Super Parts in a Tamashii event on a Roy TV VF-1S??????

I know Bandai shenanigans, been a MW member since 2000!

But why??? If it was Yamato doing this back in the day, there would have been angry fans with pitchforks waiting in line.

What's the point of marketing these Super Parts with Roy's VF-1 when they are only canon to Hikru's VF-1S??? They pay the Hoary Froating head toadvertise the DX but canon be damned!!!

I'm not judging anyone, we are all adults and we can do as we please with our hard earned money. But are these parts confirmation of a Hikaru VF-1S in the future????

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Man I was up on preorder night till 3 am and got nothing except cart jacked and sadness.
 

I got a couple of preorders for packs now, but damn it feels bad when you flaunt your 3 preorders for valks in our faces lol.

 

hope I can snag one at release for less than treefiddy...

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25 minutes ago, Ignacio Ocamica said:

Honest question here.

Can anyone explain me the logic of showing TV Super Parts in a Tamashii event on a Roy TV VF-1S??????

I know Bandai shenanigans, been a MW member since 2000!

 

Because Bandai modex backward = intentional.... it just doesn’t make sense... :lol:

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25 minutes ago, Ignacio Ocamica said:

Honest question here.

Can anyone explain me the logic of showing TV Super Parts in a Tamashii event on a Roy TV VF-1S??????

I know Bandai shenanigans, been a MW member since 2000!

But why??? If it was Yamato doing this back in the day, there would have been angry fans with pitchforks waiting in line.

What's the point of marketing these Super Parts with Roy's VF-1 when they are only canon to Hikru's VF-1S??? They pay the Hoary Froating head toadvertise the DX but canon be damned!!!

I'm not judging anyone, we are all adults and we can do as we please with our hard earned money. But are these parts confirmation of a Hikaru VF-1S in the future????

Nothing is ever surely confirmed with Bandai (Yes, Bandai, I'm looking at those still to be released HMR Tomahawks, Phalanxes, and Scout Regults). But a lot of us have theorized that they'll come back and double-dip with a TV Hikaru Skull Leader. Considering we haven't had TV-version red-tipped reaction missiles properly released one toys for quite some time, ity's like one step forward canon-wise while they take a different step back.

 

 

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Updated links for VF-1S Roy & TV Super Parts as of 7/6/2020 9AM ET

VF-1S Roy:

31,490 - https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-bandai-dx-chogokin/37995-dx-chogokin-macross-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special.html

SOLD OUT -  https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/31609-super-dimension-fortress-macross-dx-chogokin-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special.html

SOLD OUT - https://okini.land/en/21236-dx-chogokin-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special-bandai-spirits.html

SOLD OUT - https://www.hlj.com/dx-chogokin-first-limited-edition-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special-bans60502

SOLD OUT, may be available from other sellers only - https://www.amazon.co.jp/超時空要塞マクロス-初回限定版VF-1S-ロイ・フォッカースペシャル-ダイキャスト製-塗装済み可動フィギュア/dp/B08C3GRZ4P/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dx+vf-1s&qid=1594042059&sr=8-1

SOLD OUT - http://www.anime-export.com/product/48144

SOLD OUT - https://www.plazajapan.com/4573102605023/

SOLD OUT - https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10707343

SOLD OUT - https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOGDS-408176

SOLD OUT - https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-060557

 

TV Super Parts:

TWE Product Page (for ordering via proxy) - https://p-bandai.jp/item/item-1000146995/

10,800 - http://www.anime-export.com/product/48181

11,000 - https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/31626-super-dimension-fortress-macross-dx-chogokin-super-parts-set-for-tv-edition-vf-1.html

11,990 - https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-hobbies-toys-bandai-premium/38166-dx-chogokin-macross-tv-version-vf-1-compatible-super-parts-set-limited-edition.html

SOLD OUT - https://okini.land/en/21331-dx-chogokin-super-parts-set-for-vf-1-tv-edition-bandai-spirits.html

SOLD OUT - https://www.biginjap.com/en/completed-models/24222-macross-dx-chogokin-super-parts-set-for-tv-edition-vf-1.html

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11 minutes ago, MacrossDYRL said:

Updated links for VF-1S Roy & TV Super Parts as of 7/6/2020 9AM ET

VF-1S Roy:

31,490 - https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-bandai-dx-chogokin/37995-dx-chogokin-macross-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special.html

35,000 -  https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/31609-super-dimension-fortress-macross-dx-chogokin-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special.html

SOLD OUT - https://okini.land/en/21236-dx-chogokin-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special-bandai-spirits.html

SOLD OUT - https://www.hlj.com/dx-chogokin-first-limited-edition-vf-1s-valkyrie-roy-focker-special-bans60502

SOLD OUT, may be available from other sellers only - https://www.amazon.co.jp/超時空要塞マクロス-初回限定版VF-1S-ロイ・フォッカースペシャル-ダイキャスト製-塗装済み可動フィギュア/dp/B08C3GRZ4P/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=dx+vf-1s&qid=1594042059&sr=8-1

SOLD OUT - http://www.anime-export.com/product/48144

SOLD OUT - https://www.plazajapan.com/4573102605023/

SOLD OUT - https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10707343

SOLD OUT - https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOGDS-408176

SOLD OUT - https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-060557

 

TV Super Parts:

TWE Product Page (for ordering via proxy) - https://p-bandai.jp/item/item-1000146995/

10,800 - http://www.anime-export.com/product/48181

11,990 - https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-hobbies-toys-bandai-premium/38166-dx-chogokin-macross-tv-version-vf-1-compatible-super-parts-set-limited-edition.html

SOLD OUT - https://okini.land/en/21331-dx-chogokin-super-parts-set-for-vf-1-tv-edition-bandai-spirits.html

SOLD OUT - https://www.biginjap.com/en/completed-models/24222-macross-dx-chogokin-super-parts-set-for-tv-edition-vf-1.html

nyp sold out again

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NY quickly sold out of their Roys at ¥35,000. That's not a good sign. Although, technically, this is only their second round, which they normally roll out during PO Madness, so they could come back with a third round at ¥40,000. I think it took three rounds for the Hikaru 1S and the YF-29 Durandal Full Set Pack to stabilize to the point where stock was available for days/weeks. With third party seller prices on AJ at ¥38,000, and most of them only shipping domestically, I could see NY coming back in a little higher to see how far they can push it. That seems to be their pattern.

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