RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 What are the chances in the next few days to weeks that there will be stock on these Japanese sites due to whatever reasons? Is it worth having all the pages up and F5ing it to death just in case? That is what I usually do for US preorders and sites as BBTS, TD, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, RED WOLF said: What are the chances in the next few days to weeks that there will be stock on these Japanese sites due to whatever reasons? Is it worth having all the pages up and F5ing it to death just in case? That is what I usually do for US preorders and sites as BBTS, TD, etc. I would say keep watching the sites for more stock. This happened with the DX VF-1J and the 31E (I think, not 100% sure). Others would probably chime in with their success stories, but I have seen amazon.jp and HLJ do this on a couple of the previous POs, so keep checking, and good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I think now we just wait until September and hope more units are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, jenius said: I think now we just wait until September and hope more units are available. PO madness tonight for Yellow armor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mingus Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, rdrunner said: When I checked at around 05:41, it was still available, but was gone the next minute. So I think the PO lasted for about 6 to 7 minutes on amazon JP, which is a miracle considering how the other vendors sold out in less than a minute. The bots must have been caught off guard because there were many other amazon scalpers who put up their links there long before Amazon Japan GK went live. This is a big part of the problem. When Amazon swoops in, they buy up all the stock from Bandai, which means less stock for the other, smaller players and this happens to everything that Amazon agrees to carry. With their buying power, HLJ and Amiami can't compete. If Walmart got into this as well, all the small vendors would be screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekering Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Darth Mingus said: When Amazon swoops in, they buy up all the stock from Bandai, which means less stock for the other, smaller players and this happens to everything that Amazon agrees to carry. If Amazon bought up all of Bandai's stock, they wouldn't have sold out in five minutes... But regardless, Bandai is seriously underestimating demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fry Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Was up all night like others and got kicked out of 4 sites during checkout confirmation. I went to sleep before Amazon. Oh well, hopefully a reasonably priced 1 comes up. Like many others if someone has an extra please let me know. Congrats to everyone who got one! And I really appreciate everyones post, especially Shizuka the Cat. You rock! Edited April 8, 2019 by fry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardlyNever Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, DYRL VF-1S said: Anyone here know how to write a competing Bot for the next pre-order madness? MW's can unite and pool resources to help the fam? If I can score an extra at some point, I'd be glad to help anyone here. Paying it forward and supporting the (proto)culture here is what makes this community cool. Ethical issues aside, it wouldn't be that hard to to write a site-specific bot, especially once you have the product page id. Scripting something that crawls all the major vendors and places orders would be a lot more involved, but not impossible. The problem is, if you're overseas, you're still at a pretty significant disadvantage compared to the botters in Asia who have much lower latency to the retailers' servers. Fractions of a second matter in situations like that, and there isn't a way for someone that isn't in Asia to overcome that. 2 minutes ago, RED WOLF said: What are the chances in the next few days to weeks that there will be stock on these Japanese sites due to whatever reasons? Is it worth having all the pages up and F5ing it to death just in case? That is what I usually do for US preorders and sites as BBTS, TD, etc. This is what I'm hoping for. Just set up all the relevant alerts, and hope the botters have backed off, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, RED WOLF said: PO madness tonight for Yellow armor? Will the usual suspects (HLJ, Amiami, CDJ, AE, and god forbid, NY) carry this one? How bad were the previous PO madness for this line? I might stay up and get one tonight as well if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizuka the Cat Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, RED WOLF said: PO madness tonight for Yellow armor? Yellow armor? What yellow armor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levzloi Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) preorders are up for yellow on BBTS, the link to that thread, and the link to order it through Jenius's campaign are below (help him out for his awesome site and work) https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=ScorchedEarthToys Edited April 8, 2019 by levzloi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, levzloi said: preorders are up for yellow on BBTS, the link to that thread, and the link to order is through Jenius's campaign are below. https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=ScorchedEarthToys Great! I snagged two. Atleast I won something today lolz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I went to bed around 1:40am. Nature called at 4am and thought I should check stores again and nothing. I was among those here who said when this was first announced that I was on the fence about getting Max. I still am. If I was able to casually pick one up at the preorder 5% to 10% discount with a fair shipping cost I would have been okay. I'm not going to pay 200% the MSRP just for a preorder. What gets me mad isn't the fact I lost out of Max but how I may lose future preorders that I really want if this becomes the new trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED WOLF Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Why is everything coming out in August/September. Just looked at my spreadsheet and that is a dangerous couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYRL VF-1S Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, HardlyNever said: Ethical issues aside, it wouldn't be that hard to to write a site-specific bot, especially once you have the product page id. With great power comes great responsibility? I hear ya, just frustrating to see scalpers pull that bs. Would be cool to fight fire with fire if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I am down to my last resort and am trying to see if I can secure a preorder from a local shop. If that doesn't pan out, that might be it for me with regards to the 1/48 DX line. I've been able to secure every single Bandai DX release since I got into it with the first release YF-29 Durandal. And because of that I kinda felt obligated to continue getting them all for the collection. But if I am not gonna be able to get them all, that kills a lot of the motivation for me complete the line. One thing about collectors like me. Sometimes it's all or nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 What were your experiences with regards to getting one on street date release of VF-1J? I never bothered checking because I got one on P.O. night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, ArchieNov said: I am down to my last resort and am trying to see if I can secure a preorder from a local shop. If that doesn't pan out, that might be it for me with regards to the 1/48 DX line. I've been able to secure every single Bandai DX release since I got into it with the first release YF-29 Durandal. And because of that I kinda felt obligated to continue getting them all for the collection. But if I am not gonna be able to get them all, that kills a lot of the motivation for me complete the line. One thing about collectors like me. Sometimes it's all or nothing. Tried one of the toy seller. He won't offer it since per last experience (VF-1J) his store allocation got MASSIVELY CUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levzloi Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Checkmate said: What were your experiences with regards to getting one on street date release of VF-1J? I never bothered checking because I got one on P.O. night. I was able to pick one up a day or two after release on FromJapan for only about a $50 markup after shipping, counted myself lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I was just able to preordered Yellow from BBTS. That was a toy on my wanted list. Japanese retailers might have a cheaper price later but won't have $4 shipping so it will all balance out. See what I hassle free experience this is was all suppose to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, levzloi said: I was able to pick one up a day or two after release on FromJapan for only about a $50 markup after shipping, counted myself lucky. I think that sounds about right - from memory, the prices on mandarake and YJA within the first couple days since release hovered at around 25000 yen. If I had to guess, the day 1 market price in the streets will probably be around 27k yen, higher than what it was for the -1J but below the 30k that scalpers on YJA seem to be asking for right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekering Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 So the Robotech license prevents BBTS from selling Macross toys, but Mospeada toys are okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Thus far I've missed out on early preorders for HMR Silvie and DX YF-19, but was able to secure one later before release date. Really, the only way we've been fighting the 3rd party resellers from buying up all the stocks is when new Japanese web stores open up/would be around that they didn't necessarily trust. The good thing for us is that these creeps would only trust a few stores, now they trust more. HLJ was great until it would sell out in minutes, then AmiAmi was good for a while, then CD Japan... Now we're at the end of the line. Also, they would steer clear of the pre-paid preorders, not wanting to hold the credit liability that long I suppose. But this one is near guaranteed 100% ROI. Edited April 8, 2019 by easnoddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogueload Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, tekering said: So the Robotech license prevents BBTS from selling Macross toys, but Mospeada toys are okay? Mospeada is technically not Macross that is why they can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlenhoff Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, Rogueload said: Mospeada is technically not Macross that is why they can do that. Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 What are the chances that Macross fans will bug Shoji Kawamori to ask Bandai to do a 2nd preorder like what the Evangelion fans did to Ikuto Yamashita on the shortage of Metal Build Eva-01 during release to have a 2nd preorder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levzloi Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 As far as I know, it's not about that, it's about which lines BBTS is interested in/able to get their hands on for import. they used to carry Yamato back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, easnoddy said: Thus far I've missed out on early preorders for HMR Silvie and DX YF-19, but was able to secure one later before release date. Really, the only way we've been fighting the 3rd party resellers from buying up all the stocks is when new Japanese web stores open up. The good thing for us is that these creeps would only trust a few stores, now they trust more. HLJ was great until it would sell out in minutes, then AmiAmi was good for a while, then CD Japan... Now we're at the end of the line. I don't understand why NONE of these Japanese sites can keep the order in the cart for a few minutes, like how we buy cinema tickets here online with the AMC theatres or something. Surely it can't be THAT hard to do, and if they all demand payment upfront, or at least a sizable deposit, that would surely help remove some of the incentives from scalpers taking advantage, because they have some skin in the game rather than taking no-risk bets and make money out of zero deposit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rogueload said: Mospeada is technically not Macross that is why they can do that. But you do know that Mospeada is ROBOTECH, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, no3Ljm said: But you do know that Mospeada is ROBOTECH, right? Shhhh, maybe HG doesn't know they can enforce their rights on Mospeada yet...? :D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomski Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Bandai will not sell any Macross product to a US retailer due to the licensing issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Get to it people, start bugging SK on Twitter. Would possibly help the 3rd party resellers who bought up all the stocks and pre-paid possibly lose their butts. The interesting thing is that Max 1A is not a popular model. It defies reason that suddenly it would be this popular. The only reason this pre-order went so crazy is that people think they can get double their money on the resale market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlenhoff Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospeada are owned by Harmony Gold. Unless the Macross part has more restrictions than the other two, i don't get your statement Rogueload. Edited April 8, 2019 by vlenhoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrunner Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, easnoddy said: Thus far I've missed out on early preorders for HMR Silvie and DX YF-19, but was able to secure one later before release date. Really, the only way we've been fighting the 3rd party resellers from buying up all the stocks is when new Japanese web stores open up/would be around that they didn't necessarily trust. The good thing for us is that these creeps would only trust a few stores, now they trust more. HLJ was great until it would sell out in minutes, then AmiAmi was good for a while, then CD Japan... Now we're at the end of the line. Also, they would steer clear of the pre-paid preorders, not wanting to hold the credit liability that long I suppose. But this one is near guaranteed 100% ROI. Yes, I was surprised that given the popularity of the DX YF-19 FSP, it was very easy to get on PO night and it is still available for a not-crazy after market price today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlenhoff Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, easnoddy said: Get to it people, start bugging SK on Twitter. Would possibly help the 3rd party resellers who bought up all the stocks and pre-paid possibly lose their butts. The interesting thing is that Max 1A is not a popular model. It defies reason that suddenly it would be this popular. The only reason this pre-order went so crazy is that people think they can get double their money on the resale market. It makes all the sense in the world. The first release doubled in price immediately. Scalpers don't care or know about characters, they want to sell. Arsewipes of the earth.... Sorry guys, i am still butthurt from last night. Edited April 8, 2019 by vlenhoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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