cwmodels Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Worse. Kinda glad I didn't buy the Bluray right away! Let's see... Episode - 17: Big Ass Song dump Episode - 18 : Another Song dump (totally wasting the debut of the awesome song "Love! Thunder Grow" by using it as the ending theme) Episode - 19 : Info dump (totally wasting the debut of the awesome song "The Wind blow without notice" by using it as the ending theme) Episode - 20: Story goes into Meandering Mode (no new song nor Valk action) Episodee - 21: Back story dump After Episode 13 the action and use of songs are so uneven, careless and unstructured! Shoji did announce "THE NEXT" few days after episode 13 aired... Did he took Chinese investor money after Beiing Comicon and jumped ship to work on "THE NEXT" and left Delta in the hands of second-stringer staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 After Episode 13 the action and use of songs are so uneven, careless and unstructured! Shoji did announce "THE NEXT" few days after episode 13 aired... Did he took Chinese investor money after Beiing Comicon and jumped ship to work on "THE NEXT" and left Delta in the hands of second-stringer staff?Nah, the problems we're seeing with Macross Delta just show that the series was poorly planned-out from the beginning.Macross 7 gives much the same feeling of the writers having realized partway into the show's production that they were going to have a lot of episode count leftover after the end of the plot, and resolved to pad it mercilessly. The difference is that Macross 7 did the padding on the front end, leading to 20 episodes of filler before the plot starts, while Macross Delta seems to be forgetting the actual plot in the name of trying to make us like these flat, boring characters the show is overpopulated by. You could jettison five or six of Delta's core cast and not affect the plot one bit: Messer, Makina, Reina, and the twins don't have any actual role in the plot, and combined they don't have enough actual character traits to fill a 3x5 card. Messer was just an arse, the twins might as well not be present for all the relevance they have, and Makina and Reina are just present to tick off a couple checkboxes on some kind of "Minimum H-Dojinshi Fetish Obligations" checklist. It's like they only planned the series up through the end of Mission 13, and have had to ad lib everything since. There's been no real furtherance of the plot... just a string of breather episodes (14, 16, 17) and exposition dumps (15, 18, 19, 20). It almost feels like this is supposed to be a 3-cour or 2-season series, pacing-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartika3091 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Lady M is Basara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Turner Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) the twins might as well not be present for all the relevance they haveKeith is almost an exact copy of Folken, darkened wings included. Bogue is Dilandau, to a detail. However, the twins presence are nowhere near Eriya and Nariya. Looked almost like another direct reference, but without any substance. Edited August 21, 2016 by Aries Turner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmodels Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Nah, the problems we're seeing with Macross Delta just show that the series was poorly planned-out from the beginning. Macross 7 gives much the same feeling of the writers having realized partway into the show's production that they were going to have a lot of episode count leftover after the end of the plot, and resolved to pad it mercilessly. The difference is that Macross 7 did the padding on the front end, leading to 20 episodes of filler before the plot starts, while Macross Delta seems to be forgetting the actual plot in the name of trying to make us like these flat, boring characters the show is overpopulated by. You could jettison five or six of Delta's core cast and not affect the plot one bit: Messer, Makina, Reina, and the twins don't have any actual role in the plot, and combined they don't have enough actual character traits to fill a 3x5 card. Messer was just an arse, the twins might as well not be present for all the relevance they have, and Makina and Reina are just present to tick off a couple checkboxes on some kind of "Minimum H-Dojinshi Fetish Obligations" checklist. It's like they only planned the series up through the end of Mission 13, and have had to ad lib everything since. There's been no real furtherance of the plot... just a string of breather episodes (14, 16, 17) and exposition dumps (15, 18, 19, 20). It almost feels like this is supposed to be a 3-cour or 2-season series, pacing-wise. It's a multi-million dollar production and they started working on it over an year in advance, with early promotion and scouting for new talents. Not to mention there are multiple sponsorship and product tie-ins. The drop in quality is very noticible after episode 13, I find it very hard to justify it with calling it poor planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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