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massive spoilage but it explains soooooo much (and suplex's right into 2202's title: Warriors of Love)

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Be warned, below is a long rant, if you love Yamato 2202, don't click it, it's better for everyone involved that way.

 

Wow, watched the raw, and I think I need to reserve judgement until the subbed version comes out, but this was one disjointed set of crap.  My thought is that if you aren't going to show all the stuff that actually happened with all those potential battles, then why bother with showing off these massive fleets.  There was plenty of allusions to massive space battles, but we don't see any of it.  Suddenly, sword ships have blown up  the shield walls, what the hell happened to the thirty plus Gamilas dreadnoughts, did they just die?   Well, who cares, we need to rush onto the next thing.

The Ginga is surrounded by its fleet one minute, and then the next, it is soloing around Jupiter.  The rest of the copy and past ships that were the Ginga's escorts?  No one gives a damn.  But quick, let's switch over to the fight around Mars.  Show two or three pieces of action mid battle, and then forget about everything.  What the F happened to Balsey and his rotating carrier?  Apparently, no one gave a crap, we'll see three of those things in the final episodes, just long enough for them to be wiped out, or may be just never seen again.

Then the final insult, one minute, however many Andromedas and boosters were diving and firing on Gatlantis, the next minute, it's only Yamanami's Andromeda left fighting by itself.   WTF happened?  Why go through all these pointless scenes of launching all of these Andromedas and variants if you don't even bother to show what happened.  I think we can literally say no one gives a crap about all of those variants that were shown.  Not even the writers, they were thrown in to give Bandai more models to sell. 

This was even worse than the battle of Saturn.  They shoehorned in the Gamilas crap, I mean, how pathetic.  My advise is if you only watched just the snippets that is out on Vimeo, and just imaging the rest of the glorious battles that occurred, you would be better off.   Just pretend it was really good, and call it a day.   

Then there is the Desslar attack on Yamato.  I'm totally speechless, the only thing I can say is WTF.  What happened to the rest of Desslar's fleet.  I am just waiting for the subs to hear what really happened, but this just seem so odd.  There was almost no build up, how did Kodai and Kinman get aboard the core ship?  

All of this basically is to say that these particular writers decided to dump on giant smelly steaming pile of crap on the lap of the fans who enjoyed 2199, and then to add insult to injury, went over to the houses of the original series 2 writers and flipped every single one of them off.  They could've just done the blue tunnel of love for the entire series, and it wouldn't have been this bad.

I guess it must be me, but the writing on the last two series (Macross D) and Yamato 2202 has been horrendous.  At least the first half of Macross D wasn't so bad.  2202 just kept finding ways to raise up your hopes and then dashing them.

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22 hours ago, kalvasflam said:

Be warned, below is a long rant, if you love Yamato 2202, don't click it, it's better for everyone involved that way.

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Wow, watched the raw, and I think I need to reserve judgement until the subbed version comes out, but this was one disjointed set of crap.  My thought is that if you aren't going to show all the stuff that actually happened with all those potential battles, then why bother with showing off these massive fleets.  There was plenty of allusions to massive space battles, but we don't see any of it.  Suddenly, sword ships have blown up  the shield walls, what the hell happened to the thirty plus Gamilas dreadnoughts, did they just die?   Well, who cares, we need to rush onto the next thing.

The Ginga is surrounded by its fleet one minute, and then the next, it is soloing around Jupiter.  The rest of the copy and past ships that were the Ginga's escorts?  No one gives a damn.  But quick, let's switch over to the fight around Mars.  Show two or three pieces of action mid battle, and then forget about everything.  What the F happened to Balsey and his rotating carrier?  Apparently, no one gave a crap, we'll see three of those things in the final episodes, just long enough for them to be wiped out, or may be just never seen again.

Then the final insult, one minute, however many Andromedas and boosters were diving and firing on Gatlantis, the next minute, it's only Yamanami's Andromeda left fighting by itself.   WTF happened?  Why go through all these pointless scenes of launching all of these Andromedas and variants if you don't even bother to show what happened.  I think we can literally say no one gives a crap about all of those variants that were shown.  Not even the writers, they were thrown in to give Bandai more models to sell. 

This was even worse than the battle of Saturn.  They shoehorned in the Gamilas crap, I mean, how pathetic.  My advise is if you only watched just the snippets that is out on Vimeo, and just imaging the rest of the glorious battles that occurred, you would be better off.   Just pretend it was really good, and call it a day.   

Then there is the Desslar attack on Yamato.  I'm totally speechless, the only thing I can say is WTF.  What happened to the rest of Desslar's fleet.  I am just waiting for the subs to hear what really happened, but this just seem so odd.  There was almost no build up, how did Kodai and Kinman get aboard the core ship?  

All of this basically is to say that these particular writers decided to dump on giant smelly steaming pile of crap on the lap of the fans who enjoyed 2199, and then to add insult to injury, went over to the houses of the original series 2 writers and flipped every single one of them off.  They could've just done the blue tunnel of love for the entire series, and it wouldn't have been this bad.

I guess it must be me, but the writing on the last two series (Macross D) and Yamato 2202 has been horrendous.  At least the first half of Macross D wasn't so bad.  2202 just kept finding ways to raise up your hopes and then dashing them.

Is it possible it looks all AFU because the films are done up in film format (not television episodic)?

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It's a 110 issue magazine by Hachette that will release parts for a 2202 Yamato in 1/350 scale, sort of like DeAgostini publications like the one with Millenium Falcon. The finished model will feature several light and sound gimicks, controled from a dedicated control box. Final price tag is above $2000 but you get a nifty 95 cm Yamato and a Yamato Fact File style collection in the end.

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2 hours ago, UN Spacy said:

Wow how much that gonna cost? 

Oh, probably triple what the OG 1/350 kit did when Bandai released it...

 

at least they seem to be hitting all the same gimmicks...

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4 minutes ago, westfall said:

Well, this will end up costing over $2000 but at least you can pay it in weekly instalments.

 

Also of note that a lot of the kit is die cast.

OH... so I could pay an Extra $1000 in shiping 15 installments to Canada?! Awesome!! :rofl:

 

 

I realize the quality of these things [Like De'Agostini's Falcon] but...

As a modeler I'd rather hunt down one of Bandai's if I had the money to buy/time to build/space to display a Giant SBY.

 

 

Still Super-Jealous of anyone who can afford the investment and space to display her, though!

Maybe once I've payed off my mortgage  I can think about really cool toys like this...

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3 hours ago, treatment said:

Yeah.

Iirc, the 1/350 Bandai kit also had lights and electronics, and was around US$500 (excluding shipping-fees).

Lights, sounds, moving Turrets, etc... it's quite the box...

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17 minutes ago, Valkyrie Hunter D said:

Huh, even though they're at the same scale, the Hachette model is going to be longer at 3.1 feet as opposed to Bandai's at 2.8 \feet; a difference of just over 3 inches.

Wasn't the Yamato's sizing-specs retconned with the 2199/2202 versions? 

The Hachette kit looks to be the 2202-edition.

Thought the Bandai 1/350 kit was for the old school Yamato specs.

 

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Apparently.  Visually, it looks as good if not better than the 2005 film Otoko Tachi No Yamato. 

 

That film really irked me btw.  They built a third of the ship in 1/1 scale, yet still managed to make it look fake in the movie.  It looked more real in tourist photos than it did in the film.  

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23 minutes ago, TehPW said:

did they (the Japanese) have working helicopters in WWII? I thought the first combat use of helicopters was the Korean War?

Nope they didn't. The shot is from The Man in the High Castle where an alternative outcome of WWII takes center, so that's why we see a Kamov helicopter buzzing the Yamato.

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8 hours ago, TehPW said:

did they (the Japanese) have working helicopters in WWII? I thought the first combat use of helicopters was the Korean War?

First combat use was in WW2 - very limited and I forget exactly what it was.  Not by Japan however.

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Yeah, The Man in the High Castle takes place in an alternate reality late 1950’s where the Axis powers won WWII and have occupied America. Japan has west of the Rockies and Germany East. It’s VERY depressing, good but depressing. I haven’t watched beyond season 1. Don’t know if I’m up to it.

Chris

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4 hours ago, TehPW said:

Regardless, that pic is awesome...

 

Someone working for the show must have been a real battleship nut to recreate the ship so accurately (apart from the slight modernization of the helicopter pad).

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On ‎1‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 11:42 AM, peter said:

A little off topic, but Yamato related.....

 

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Haven't watched this show, but I want to now, just to see the visual effects.

I just notices something wrong with this pic: The ship is underway. Why does the flags still fly at the bow & stern flag staff's? Now I have no idea what the deal was a 100 years ago but modern procedures, for the USN, when they call 'Underway, Shift Colors!' on the 1MC, the Union Jack [or the Don't Tread on Me Flag] on the bow and the National Ensign on the stern are lowered at the same time, the bigger National Ensign is raised on the at-sea flag staff on the back of the bridge tower. maybe it's for dramatic effect, but I think the makers of this pic goof'ed. [Navy Nerd Mode, OFF]

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