BANDAI DX YF-19!!

[borgified]

Bump in the thread folks..

@mustang1 did a long overdue review on the DX YF-19 full set.

 

 

[seti88]

Its late, past midnight and am still up watching the dogfight between isamu and guld over again for the umpteenth time...

And happened to wish for a gimmick i never tot i wanted till now...collapsing leg thrusters....

 

[borgified]

Since the DX VF-1J is getting the hype now, there's another price drop on the DX YF-19 Full set from Amiami for those who still haven't gotten one.

From 27k yen to now roughly 22.4k yen (Box B/Item B).

https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-038985-R

 

 

[Smacky]

Anybody know what piece this is?  I was transforming this to fighter mode and it fell off, I have no idea from where though.

Edit: Never mind, found it! Thanks!

Edited January 19, 2019 by Smacky

[onnasake]

Yes.

It's another YF-19 post from me.   Sorry if there's so many and they're so redundant.

I'm still just shocked by how much I LOVE THIS TOY.   Especially considering how horribly disappointed I was when I unboxed it.  Well, that was ALL on me.   Impatience, trying to force thing, skipping stuff in the directions, and most of all not watching videos explaining all the nuances.

In the months since I've got it, I have yet to get the fighter mode "juuuust right."   I can get Battroid looking amazing....but there are bits in the fighter mode that elude me.  The "naked" fighter mode with no fast packs is no problem....but getting those arms to fold in just right with that horrible little grey back of the leg piece and getting the long shoulder pads to all peg in?   It's drive me crazy.

Not to mention a few weeks ago I broke the strut holding the fold booster, but I jury rigged a pin in there that seems to hold it just fine as far as you don't excessively handle it, and I learned already:  these can be appreciated and even held, but do NOT excessively handle them!

Well, I just spent over an hour trying to go from Battroid to the "perfect" fighter mode loaded out with fast packs and fold booster.   Other than the shoulder armor still just being the slightest bit gappy, I'd say I'm finally about 95%  there.  Even got the wing roots in place, and the pegs that go into the sides of the neck almost flush for the first time!

What a sight to behold.  What a dream come true.  Hard to imagine my biggest let down of 2018 quickly became my number one toy of the year, with no contest.

I have seen the light.  I am converted and born again.  I love this toy!!

 

Edited January 19, 2019 by onnasake

[no3Ljm]

2 hours ago, Smacky said:

Anybody know what piece this is?  I was transforming this to fighter mode and it fell off, I have no idea from where though.

Edit: Never mind, found it! Thanks!

*snip*

So what part is that? Care to share from where it fell from?

 

[ArchieNov]

2 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

So what part is that? Care to share from where it fell from?

 

That's one of the small pieces that flip out near the chest guns.

[Smacky]

4 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

So what part is that? Care to share from where it fell from?

 

I put mine back in the box so I took a screen cap from Jenius’ transformation video. It’s this tiny cover for screws, just plopped it back in.

[Pontus]

I can't wait to get mine!  The seller took 3 weeks to ship the damn thing where it seems to be sitting at the local Japanese post office for the past 8 days.  I'm getting more than a bit impatient.  I've watched Jenius's videos so many times that a majority of his views are probably from me, and I've got the transformation memorized (I hope).  As for difficulty transforming it, I figure if I can learn to love the Yammie 1/72 YF-21, this will be a breeze.

[no3Ljm]

27 minutes ago, Smacky said:

I put mine back in the box so I took a screen cap from Jenius’ transformation video. It’s this tiny cover for screws, just plopped it back in.

Thank you sir! When I saw your post earlier I was assuming it was the fold out part under the chest but I don't remember seeing it with those two pegs that's why I asked. Maybe it wasn't glued properly. Thanks again.

 

[borgified]

10 minutes ago, Pontus said:

I can't wait to get mine!  The seller took 3 weeks to ship the damn thing where it seems to be sitting at the local Japanese post office for the past 8 days.  I'm getting more than a bit impatient.  I've watched Jenius's videos so many times that a majority of his views are probably from me, and I've got the transformation memorized (I hope).  As for difficulty transforming it, I figure if I can learn to love the Yammie 1/72 YF-21, this will be a breeze.

The first thing that you want to do in your copy if the YF-19 Full set is: Loosen up those hip joints!

Don't be like @onnasake and have your valk legs sheer off during the transformation. Watch out for those canards on the shins and other notable items that we all have experienced here.

Oh.. Don't forget to have a bottle of shock oil on hand (if you have).  

[Pontus]

1 minute ago, borgified said:

The first thing that you want to do in your copy if the YF-19 Full set is: Loosen up those hip joints!

Don't be like @onnasake and have your valk legs sheer off during the transformation. Watch out for those canards on the shins and other notable items that we all have experienced here.

Oh.. Don't forget to have a bottle of shock oil on hand (if you have).  

Thanks for the tips!  Shock oil tho?  You mean like suspension shocks like motorcycle fork oil?  Or is this a brand?  I need to do the same for my 1/60 VF-1S shoulders.  I haven't broken them yet surprisingly.  I was going to attempt to take them apart and lightly sand them, but perhaps this shock oil trick will help.

[borgified]

2 minutes ago, Pontus said:

Thanks for the tips!  Shock oil tho?  You mean like suspension shocks like motorcycle fork oil?  Or is this a brand?  I need to do the same for my 1/60 VF-1S shoulders.  I haven't broken them yet surprisingly.  I was going to attempt to take them apart and lightly sand them, but perhaps this shock oil trick will help.

Shock oil will be available at you local hobby store that sells RC parts (for stiff coil springs) any car parts store that sells it. I think that you can use motorcycle fork oil, just be sure that it doesn't dissolve the metal or the surrounding areas.

[HardlyNever]

Keep in mind, the DXs tend to loosen up pretty quickly.  I didn't need to use any oil or anything.  While the hips were tight, they loosened up after a few transformations.  One of my shoulders is already getting a bit too loose for my liking.  If you use any kind of oil, you'll be accelerating this process, so do so at your own risk (of course, not using anything has risks of its own).

Transformed and handled mine a bit today.  I think the army cannon is definitely one of the best single accessories for any Macross valk.

[Pontus]

IT ARRIVED!  And my head cannon was broken, but I don't mind.  The hips were completely immobile, but I just loosened the screws.  And the glue failed on the orange arm cannon cover.  I didn't have much probs transforming it.  I had the same problem as others with a stiff spine cover (?) but you just have to press a finger behind the head and squeeze the backpack together.  It also seemed to help having the head slid back far enough.

[Foblander]

Do Bandai DX joints generally get really loose the more you play with it or stay relatively stiff enough to still hold poses? I want to play with it more but a little reluctant due to fear of joint looseness. My Yamato 1/60 YF-21 couldn't even stand on its own after a while :( How about Arcadia VF-1 toys (might as well ask lol)? Thanks guys!

[F360]

1 hour ago, Foblander said:

Do Bandai DX joints generally get really loose the more you play with it or stay relatively stiff enough to still hold poses? I want to play with it more but a little reluctant due to fear of joint looseness. My Yamato 1/60 YF-21 couldn't even stand on its own after a while How about Arcadia VF-1 toys (might as well ask lol)? Thanks guys!

All joints get loose when you play with them.  The trick is to move slow when you move them . It will stay tighter longer that way.  You also don’t want it to stay at one pose for a long time without support. 

[no3Ljm]

2 hours ago, Foblander said:

Do Bandai DX joints generally get really loose the more you play with it or stay relatively stiff enough to still hold poses? I want to play with it more but a little reluctant due to fear of joint looseness. My Yamato 1/60 YF-21 couldn't even stand on its own after a while How about Arcadia VF-1 toys (might as well ask lol)? Thanks guys!

Eventually they do. So do enjoy them while it last.  

 

[Foblander]

7 hours ago, F360 said:

All joints get loose when you play with them.  The trick is to move slow when you move them . It will stay tighter longer that way.  You also don’t want it to stay at one pose for a long time without support.

Thanks for the tip! Also, what do you mean posing without support?

[no3Ljm]

10 minutes ago, Foblander said:

Thanks for the tip! Also, what do you mean posing without support?

F360 meant that even if you let it stay in one pose for a long time make sure you use a support just like how they display these figures in those glass showcase in Akihabara. They added that small arm stand as a support.

 

[Foblander]

3 minutes ago, no3Ljm said:

F360 meant that even if you let it stay in one pose for a long time make sure you use a support just like how they display these figures in those glass showcase in Akihabara. They added that small arm stand as a support.

 

Oh wow. So just leaving it standing over time (without support of a stand) will actually weaken the joints over time. I had no idea. 

[no3Ljm]

2 minutes ago, Foblander said:

Oh wow. So just leaving it standing over time (without support of a stand) will actually weaken the joints over time. I had no idea. 

Actually, I had no idea too that it does that over time even though it has diecast and all. But since these babies are super expensive, I think it wouldn't hurt to use one, right?

 

[F360]

46 minutes ago, Foblander said:

Oh wow. So just leaving it standing over time (without support of a stand) will actually weaken the joints over time. I had no idea. 

well, it can, do to gravity? the heavier the item the harder it's on the hip/angle  joints over time I guess. 

But I'm sure that stand in the back is just to support the VF-1J so it doesn't accidentally fall over. 

 

What i was talking about is more extreme poses , examples like with arms stretching out pointing a heavy long weapon.  over time the weight of the arm and weapon will loosen the shoulder joints , just imaging yourself holding a rifle and pointing it with 1 arm, surely you would not be able to hold that for long.  But if you bring it closer and support it with your other arm, you can do that for a really long time.  

For a dx chogokin, the weight is mostly on the legs, so when you post it with it's leg dangling   in mid air with the stand up it's behind, then over time the weight of the leg will start to effect the hip or knee joints.  

 

[Foblander]

On 1/30/2019 at 8:51 PM, F360 said:

well, it can, do to gravity? the heavier the item the harder it's on the hip/angle  joints over time I guess. 

But I'm sure that stand in the back is just to support the VF-1J so it doesn't accidentally fall over. 

 

What i was talking about is more extreme poses , examples like with arms stretching out pointing a heavy long weapon.  over time the weight of the arm and weapon will loosen the shoulder joints , just imaging yourself holding a rifle and pointing it with 1 arm, surely you would not be able to hold that for long.  But if you bring it closer and support it with your other arm, you can do that for a really long time.  

For a dx chogokin, the weight is mostly on the legs, so when you post it with it's leg dangling   in mid air with the stand up it's behind, then over time the weight of the leg will start to effect the hip or knee joints.  

 

Okay I see what you mean. Good thing my Valks are all in boring standing positions. Lol Thanks for clarifying

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

On 1/30/2019 at 10:42 AM, Foblander said:

Do Bandai DX joints generally get really loose the more you play with it or stay relatively stiff enough to still hold poses? I want to play with it more but a little reluctant due to fear of joint looseness. My Yamato 1/60 YF-21 couldn't even stand on its own after a while :( How about Arcadia VF-1 toys (might as well ask lol)? Thanks guys!

Yes specifically with ball joints on Bandai DX valks. They don't use washers to increase friction, it's all  direct contact from the ball joint to the socket. 

[Sandman]

So i need to pack up my yf-19 back to the book for a couple of months and i was thinking about the issue with the hread lasers breaking. I want to make sure i don't pack it back up in a way that will break the headlaser. How exactly is the head laser breaking while in the box? Is it simply by chance or is it the way it is packed?

[no3Ljm]

10 minutes ago, Sandman said:

So i need to pack up my yf-19 back to the book for a couple of months and i was thinking about the issue with the hread lasers breaking. I want to make sure i don't pack it back up in a way that will break the headlaser. How exactly is the head laser breaking while in the box? Is it simply by chance or is it the way it is packed?

There's a small clearance between the head laser and the plastic tray. So what happens is that the moment the box gets thrown during transit, there's a chance that the head laser bump hard on the plastic tray. Now if you already have it, I advise not to put anything heavy on top of your DX YF-19 box. If it's possible, put your YF-19 on top of all your box stocks.

 

[Foblander]

21 minutes ago, Sandman said:

So i need to pack up my yf-19 back to the book for a couple of months and i was thinking about the issue with the hread lasers breaking. I want to make sure i don't pack it back up in a way that will break the headlaser. How exactly is the head laser breaking while in the box? Is it simply by chance or is it the way it is packed?

Supposedly you can pull out the head laser. If that is true then that may be the safest bet. 

[Sandman]

5 minutes ago, no3Ljm said:

There's a small clearance between the head laser and the plastic tray. So what happens is that the moment the box gets thrown during transit, there's a chance that the head laser bump hard on the plastic tray. Now if you already have it, I advise not to put anything heavy on top of your DX YF-19 box. If it's possible, put your YF-19 on top of all your box stocks.

 

Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah i was definately not going to put anything on top. I wonder if it's save to put on it's side? When putting it back in the tray with the plastic wrap. I noticed the wrap really cramps up the space inside the tray. I'm super paranoid about breaking this thing.

[Sandman]

1 minute ago, Foblander said:

Supposedly you can pull out the head laser. If that is true then that may be the safest bet. 

I know i've done that with vf-25A but that one came with a hard head laser to swap out with so i knew for sure it came out. Knowing that it was still scary yanking on the head laser to pull it off.

[no3Ljm]

Before you try to pull out the YF-19's head laser, let's wait for a confirmation from anyone here who tried to pull it out.  

 

[borgified]

54 minutes ago, Sandman said:

I know i've done that with vf-25A but that one came with a hard head laser to swap out with so i knew for sure it came out. Knowing that it was still scary yanking on the head laser to pull it off.

 

16 minutes ago, no3Ljm said:

Before you try to pull out the YF-19's head laser, let's wait for a confirmation from anyone here who tried to pull it out.  

Check out @Xigfrid's post back in October 4th, 2018 on page 101 (head laser replacement instructions).  

[Sanity is Optional]

1 hour ago, Foblander said:

Supposedly you can pull out the head laser. If that is true then that may be the safest bet. 

 

58 minutes ago, Sandman said:

I know i've done that with vf-25A but that one came with a hard head laser to swap out with so i knew for sure it came out. Knowing that it was still scary yanking on the head laser to pull it off.

Dut through the thread for it:

It pops right out apparently, snaps back in.

[no3Ljm]

There you go.  

 

[PsYcHoDyNaMiX]

The other (possible) alternative is if you're packing it back up... is to put the tray holding the yf-19 under the trays with the accessories. I can't exactly recall the arrangement for the accessory tray but (i guess) try to position the trays where there would be ample space/clearance of the head laser.