seti88 Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Looks like the tail rudder will unfold to become a larger diamond shaped shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Oh, man. Tolerances for that fin will have to be tight to prevent it from constantly just barely splitting apart, which will annoy the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Yup, your 4th screenshot has the pic with the crest on the shield. Edited April 19, 2016 by wmkjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Apparently the grey chevron things on the wings are translated as "Rear Intakes". Interesting, ram scoops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXTL Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Isn't that an old magazine scan from Dec? http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=43118&p=1243397 Edited April 19, 2016 by IXTL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Ah I didn't notice, but I got a translator to see if there are any interesting bits they wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Yup, your 4th screenshot has the pic with the crest on the shield. Yea nothing like an old close up to reconfirm the thoughts!In light of the arm split down the spine, was looking for the split line. I gather it to be the ridge of the gold frame area in the middle of the spine, but if so do the arms look unequal in length? The arm holding the shield would be as long as the fuselage till the leg nozzles? Edited April 19, 2016 by seti88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I've always been so intent on figuring out the aft section of the plane that, until now, I've never even noticed the completely opaque canopy festooned with sensors. I still can't help but get a YF-21-ish vibe from this thing, at least the forward fuselage / what I believe will be the chest, shoulders, and head. My feeling is that this is an amalgamation of previous valks: YF-21 upper body with VF-9 arms, and VF-17 legs. In response to seti88's query above, it's difficult to figure out what's going on there, aside from our agreement that there's at least one arm there. My thinking is still that the arms lie over and under one another, thus providing attachment points for both upper and lower stabs. However, in the pic, there is a discernible line just forward of the upper stab. That could be a separation line for the arms, or it could just be where two halves of the mold come together. I retain my original hypothesis. Like the VF-17, I think, I certainly hope, that this is going to have a bulky battroid. David H.'s comparison to the Escaflowne is intriguing, at least from the bulky armor view. Having a dragon mode, while apropos to its namesake, would be a bit odd; but, if done right, it'd be a nice new direction for valks beyond the traditional 3-mode. If anyone can figure out such a transformation scheme, though, it's Kawamori. Maybe we're getting our first 4-mode valk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Apparently the grey chevron things on the wings are translated as "Rear Intakes". Interesting, ram scoops? g] Needn't be anything so fancy. Concorde had secondary and tertiary intakes, but had "mere" afterburning turbojets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Time for a revisit of charger69's previous post, showing the bottom close-ups? http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=43118&page=10 Knowing what i know from the OP transformation now, the gun must appear above the fuselage indicating somesort of swing mechanism for the bottom middle fuselage. Hence, because of this fact, i thk for battroid, the nosecone shall become the body and hip joint, as i dont see any more "body" left for the hips to join to after the gun swings up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking that the legs attach to the lower fuselage aft of the cockpit section, and that it swings via the double hinge under the cockpit to rest against the nose in similar fashion to the YF-21, or the Sv-51, for that matter. However, I hope I'm wrong and that it's a new system of transformation. That's a huge part of the appeal of transforming toys, at least for me. As for the aft intakes, while a real world explanation may be posited based on existing aircraft, my guess is they're there purely for aesthetic flavor. Basically, they look cool. Edited April 21, 2016 by M'Kyuun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I'm thinking M'Kyuun is right. It definitely feels like this is a 9/17/21 hybrid. Fighter alone always struck me as having a bit of a 17 style to it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 just had a closer look at those pics nel2012 posted and I noticed the two SV-262 differ from one another enough to be significant! That's the most differences in variants of any one Valkyrie type I have seen correct me if im wrong.. remember I had a big bump to the head recently.. and I have to admit the variant that looks to be a more standard or cannon fodder type sparks my interest a great deal more than the others! Im really struggling with the more fancy schmancy types especially in Delta.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 When the DX arrives, it better have a solid ratcheted joint where the super/ghost boosters attach. Otherwise it could turn into a floppy mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly!! Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 When the DX arrives, it better have a solid ratcheted joint where the super/ghost boosters attach. Otherwise it could turn into a floppy mess. Agreed! Wait, can they make ratch joints small enough to fit in the wing tip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly!! Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 If the wings do form the chest then we can have nipple missiles cos the draken can have missile pods on the wing too.. Bwahaha! That would be a nice nod to the long tradition of weaponized oppai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Agreed! Wait, can they make ratch joints small enough to fit in the wing tip? Not ones that won't loosen up almost immediately, at any rate. Or maybe they'll compromise on the wing thinness specifically to fit those joints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHobo Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Bwahaha! That would be a nice nod to the long tradition of weaponized oppai I'm ready for the breastooo beams and breast fire, breast masters.......I just want to see what breastroid mode looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 If all the wingtips do is rotate 90o up from horizontal, the best solution would be some type of lock -- pull out to unlock, rotate up, push in to lock, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 When the DX arrives, it better have a solid ratcheted joint where the super/ghost boosters attach. Otherwise it could turn into a floppy mess. If it has solid joints that don't loosen over time then it's not a true Bandai DX.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I suppose it's not out of the question to also provide fixed-pose wing tips that you peg on and off. Doubt they'll go that route, but it would certainly make for a more secure connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekko Basara Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 just had a closer look at those pics nel2012 posted and I noticed the two SV-262 differ from one another enough to be significant! That's the most differences in variants of any one Valkyrie type I have seen correct me if im wrong.. remember I had a big bump to the head recently.. and I have to admit the variant that looks to be a more standard or cannon fodder type sparks my interest a great deal more than the others! Im really struggling with the more fancy schmancy types especially in Delta.. SV-262 2.jpg I'm with you in preferring the "plain" SV-262 versus the fancy version. Although I think the design is exciting overall, I absolutely hate the giant dogtooth triangles that Kawamori added to the outer wings of the fancy version. Not only does the plain one lack this deviation from the Saab 35's profile, but it gets a more interesting wing-folding shape as a result. Whereas the fancy version's outer wings seem to simply fold upwards, the plain version has a cut inboard of the hinge that causes part of the wing to fold down, giving the effect of fins both above and below the wingtip. Much cooler! I'm just hopeful that the -262 will feature some way to display it with a proper canopy, as the VF-27 did. No matter how much sense it makes to abandon traditional clear canopies, valks just don't look right to me without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManhattanProject972 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 just had a closer look at those pics nel2012 posted and I noticed the two SV-262 differ from one another enough to be significant! That's the most differences in variants of any one Valkyrie type I have seen correct me if im wrong.. remember I had a big bump to the head recently.. and I have to admit the variant that looks to be a more standard or cannon fodder type sparks my interest a great deal more than the others! Im really struggling with the more fancy schmancy types especially in Delta.. SV-262 2.jpg Yeah aside from the obvious wing differences between the two versions the CF has what looks to be a slightly shorter nose with different camera/sensors placements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'm ready for the breastooo beams and breast fire, breast masters.......I just want to see what breastroid mode looks like. Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Yeah aside from the obvious wing differences between the two versions the CF has what looks to be a slightly shorter nose with different camera/sensors placements. I'll take it! x3! or as many as there are modes of which we still aren't really sure about.. Edited April 24, 2016 by spanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlogic Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 taken from my camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILKAUTICO Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) taken from my camera :ohmy: :ohmy: Edited April 24, 2016 by MILKAUTICO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss! too excited to use spoiler tags...great stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) a lil more shots explaining the above...should be all over the interwebs by now... from jp twitter feed..https://twitter.com/Story_terror/status/724235700585959428 space popes bishops? are back.... Edited April 24, 2016 by seti88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikElvis Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Intrigued but still can't see enough to give an opinion. I'm sold on fighter anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 this is reminding me of gundam F-91 somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHobo Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Man, I'm really digging the head on the CF 262, but the commander type head looks too much like the 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Do not open unless you want to be mindblown! which you will be by the time you see ep 4... DRAKEN TRANSFORMATION! hope you folks can see the webm movie.. https://data.desustorage.org/a/image/1461/50/1461509514003.webm https://data.desustorage.org/a/image/1461/50/1461509771154.webm charger69 and others who predicted the head.. you hit the nail on head!! btw ULTRON IS BACK TOO! Edited April 24, 2016 by seti88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurance Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 holy crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jos3m Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 the nose cone is the head, i say i see that coming, and is very nice, at least in the cf because the leader is kinda of ugly what i didnt see coming was the chest interestin how it folds and combine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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