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11 minutes ago, Jyhnc said:

Not so easy, the business operators don't have the resources to trace this sort of operation effectively. This is a blooming market as we all know, and people are willing to invest in ways to get advantages. It is a network of people we are talking about here involving multiple accounts and bots, etc. 

The system fall over for very good reason, and its very difficult to keep up with this sort of 'attack'.

you are over thinking it, with how slow and all the extra loading /processing that the new HLJ is.  The bots will be wasted on them.

 

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Just now, F360 said:

you are over thinking it, with how slow and all the extra loading /processing that the new HLJ is.  The bots will be wasted on them.

 

Actually, no, the bots will be very useful for trolling HLJ's listings for new products now, because their search function is so utterly crippled.

I actually expect the reason we're all getting HLJ cancellations is because we found the listing so late.  They're usually right on time, but we used to depend on the advanced search to find the listings.  WIth that functionality gone, the bots that get a huge advantage, because they can just parse the site at breakneck speed and clean out the orders before we've ever seen the listing.

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DX Chogokin VF-31E pre-order madness

AVAILABLE :

25,926 yen - Yano Shop via AmazonJP  https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07N8DDPP2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HD4G7SARR8CA&psc=1 (plus 4,800 yen shipping to United States)

30.500 yen - Proxy Service via CDJapan  http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEODAI-52077

 

QUESTIONABLE REPUTATION:

24,990 yen - MyKonbini  https://mykombini.com/en/july-2019/13682-dx-chogokin-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-custom-macross-delta-bandai-spirits-4573102556523.html?search_query=macross&results=93

$191.38  price increased to $224.96  price increased to $248.45- Nin-Nin  https://www.nin-nin-game.com/en/japanese-import-hobbies-toys-game-character/30406-macross-delta-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-use-dx-chogokin--4573102556523.html

$299.99 - Loopaza  https://www.loopaza.com/dx-chogokin-macross-delta-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-custom.html

 

SOLD OUT:

20,150 yen - Ami-Ami  https://www.amiami.com/eng/special/?page=FIGURE-045897

20,900 yen - Hobby Search  https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10589490

22,000 yen - Hobby Link Japan  https://hlj.com/dx-chogokin-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-use-bans55652 (warning: some have reported getting cancel emails after placing orders)

22,000 yen - Anime Export  http://www.anime-export.com/product/42938

22,000 yen - CDJapan  http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOGDS-321622

18,400 yen price increased to 24,000 yen - Nippon-Yasan  https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/27357-macross-delta-dx-chogokin-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-custom.html  (warning: some have reported getting cancel emails after placing orders)

$279.90 - Kurama Shop  http://www.bandaionline.com/dx-chogokin-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-custom-macross-delta-action-figure/

27,500 yen - R & J Company via AmazonJP  https://www.amazon.co.jp/マクロスデルタ-VF-31Eジークフリード-チャック・マスタング機-ダイキャスト製-塗装済み可動フィギュア/dp/B07N8DDPP2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1549475919&sr=8-1&keywords=vf-31e  (plus 2,001 yen shipping to United States)

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2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

So much for that idea. :lol: 

I think a good question right now is whether anyone who got an order with HLJ didn't have their order cancelled.

Bleh.. I need to not look at this thread for awhile.  Nothing to do about this until summer, and I can feel my arteries hardening by the moment over the frustration from this freakin trainwreck.

Just going to pray for good news at release day.

I wanted to know what the lowest order number was so we could see where the cut-off was.

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2 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

Actually, no, the bots will be very useful for trolling HLJ's listings for new products now, because their search function is so utterly crippled.

I actually expect the reason we're all getting HLJ cancellations is because we found the listing so late.  They're usually right on time, but we used to depend on the advanced search to find the listings.  WIth that functionality gone, the bots that get a huge advantage, because they can just parse the site at breakneck speed and clean out the orders before we've ever seen the listing.

It was late this time because hlj didn’t cross post their preorder link like the previous preorders.

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I also received the HLJ cancelation is a shame and many less points to this webshop because play with a lot of people that we believed to have hunted one

I would expect a good apology to compensate for the sleeplessness and not only by words a big Discount coupon or free shipping at least:angry:

Fortunately for me a friend got one in Amiami and going to sell it to me but I know a lot not have the same option and and they will have to pay the inevitable overprice thanks again HLJ

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23 hours ago, PsYcHoDyNaMiX said:

Just fyi... I just double checked my hlj order number for chuck's vf-31e and I'm guessing any number after mine will probably get chopped from the list: 

13901054

Let's not try to start an hlj witch hunt lol.

I guess I really shouldn't have tried changing my PayPal agreement payment type with them that night, it caused a delay with completing my order.... lol.

My order number is just a few digits below yours. I hope it will not be canceled.

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15 hours ago, Sandman said:

If it wasn’t for this forum I probably would t have even noticed the email I. My junk folder. I’d think everything was just fine up till launch day. Grrrr.

Lol same here, no email, at first I thought i was safe and then checked my HLJ account and it was gone.

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Wow, sucks to hear those who got there preordered canned, during that preorderd madness I was checking HLJ and it seems the preordered lasted a bit longer than usual. I didn't go through the process, because I wan't going to place an order with HLJ, I've already secured one from AmiAmi and another one from NY. I'll sell one once release cause I only need one.

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Just now, Jyhnc said:

Whoever still want a VF31E should go to NY right now - 24000 yen. 

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/27357-macross-delta-dx-chogokin-vf-31e-siegfried-chuck-mustang-custom.html

I think the small price difference is well worth it.

It might be, if you don't mind the potential wait to receive it.  After the 31A mess, I'm really not expecting them to come through with anything approaching a reasonable deadline.

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14 minutes ago, Chronocidal said:

It might be, if you don't mind the potential wait to receive it.  After the 31A mess, I'm really not expecting them to come through with anything approaching a reasonable deadline.

Sorry to hear that, and hope your future experience with them (if you ever decided to try again) will be better :)

I have had good experience with NY for quite a few years now and I hope they improves more so everyone get the same great experience.

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26 minutes ago, Jyhnc said:

Sorry to hear that, and hope your future experience with them (if you ever decided to try again) will be better :)

I have had good experience with NY for quite a few years now and I hope they improves more so everyone get the same great experience.

I would say the 31A is a particularly lousy experience, because otherwise, while they seem to be slow across the board right now, they've at least been pretty reliable at sourcing the TWE items.

What concerns me about the the 31E is their initial order ending so quickly, and then their continued sales at a higher price, but only for pre-paid orders.  They know full well that the item isn't going to be released before everyone's Paypal claim dates are long past, and they already have your money.  Their "store credit" is about as skeezy an arrangement as I have ever witnessed in an online retailer, and would have their business run out of town if it was located in the US.

The only reason I've trusted them with at 31E order is that it's the first item I wanted from them that qualified for me to use the store credit from my cancelled 31A order.  They already had my money, and I've got nothing to lose trying to spend it.  I'm absolutely going to try and source another 31E from somewhere more trustworthy, but I'm also more than willing to play chicken with them over this 31E order.  I'm not going to cancel, and if they can't deliver on time, I'm going to pester them until I either get the order, or they cave and give me my cash back.

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Up to now NY haven't reimburse me with the Y6000 SAL insurance from a lost package last 2017. I don't hate them. But I also don't love them. :rolleyes:

And to put it simply, buying online abroad from any stores is always a hit and miss. Period. :hi:

 

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Lill Drakens have arrived so here's a comparison between the Sv-262Hs version and VF-31F Version

IMG_3803.thumb.JPEG.276e7207050b63f604db86a7da99ba14.JPEG
Front row: VF-31F Ver [L] x Sv-262Hs Ver [R]
Back row: Sv-262Hs Ver [L] x VF-31F Ver [R]

I am liking the color contrast on the Movie version..

 

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Haven't checked the forums in a few days since I'm on the road, and now I find out HLJ has been canceling 31E orders. :blink:

Checked my account and my order is still there, thankfully. 

What a fiasco though. Sucks for the peeps that get screwed because of HLJ's crappy website. It's been one headache after another buying from them ever since their major website change. 

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Well, HLJ has lost several orders from me because I couldn't get to the payment page as that progress circle thingy just keeps on spinning. I've had more success recently though when I turn off my adblocker so maybe that was one reason. That said they should fix that site of theirs because they'll lose orders that could have made them more money.

As for the VF31E, it looks better than I imagined. Unfortunately I don't have the budget and the space for it. I will be content with my one and only VF31C. But if they make Delta HMRs I will be very worried for my wallet :lol:

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I've been holding off for a few days to see if HLJ will cancel my E but it looks like I dodged a bullet.  My order number is quite a bit lower than the rest of you who have had cancellations though. 13901000

 

 

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9 hours ago, Saburo said:

Lill Drakens have arrived so here's a comparison between the Sv-262Hs version and VF-31F Version

IMG_3803.thumb.JPEG.276e7207050b63f604db86a7da99ba14.JPEG
Front row: VF-31F Ver [L] x Sv-262Hs Ver [R]
Back row: Sv-262Hs Ver [L] x VF-31F Ver [R]

I am liking the color contrast on the Movie version..

 

The hue on the movie versions are extremely attractive IMO.

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I guess this isn't so relevant anymore, but if you have problems with HLJ in the future, try using your phone or tablet to access the sight.  The mobile site generally works better, at least for me (maybe due to reduced traffic?  Hope this announcement doesn't screw us all over :)

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3 minutes ago, funkymonkeyjavajunky said:

So...NY still has their preorder window open, but the other retailers do not. How will they be able to fill all of those orders? This situation looks very similar to the 31A fiasco. Except, the Chuck is not an exclusive, yet NY is taking our cash up front. :unknw:

True. At this point it's highly doubtful to order one at NY since we're not sure if it's going to be delivered. But as far as speculation goes, NY will surely find a way to accommodate all of it like they did on the VF-31A. That is assuming that all of the members here got already theirs after a year of waiting. Though now we can't guarantee how long we're all going to wait for it.

 

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20 minutes ago, funkymonkeyjavajunky said:

So...NY still has their preorder window open, but the other retailers do not. How will they be able to fill all of those orders? This situation looks very similar to the 31A fiasco. Except, the Chuck is not an exclusive, yet NY is taking our cash up front. :unknw:

I think they will just fill them by already preordering from other local stores,   In a way you are using them like a proxy service, they just don't tell you that.  Which is why these later preorders require upfront payment. 

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31 minutes ago, funkymonkeyjavajunky said:

So...NY still has their preorder window open, but the other retailers do not. How will they be able to fill all of those orders? This situation looks very similar to the 31A fiasco. Except, the Chuck is not an exclusive, yet NY is taking our cash up front. :unknw:

As I previously explained...

On 2/6/2019 at 8:29 AM, Slave IV said:

Its easy to explain how NY is able to have it still in stock. They have a set amount to begin with but they predetermine how many they want to sell at what prices. Their model is to grab initial preorders by offering the lowest prices, then after a certain amount, they raise the price to make up for the earlier discount or stop orders until release and raise the price then. If an item is extremely hot, they can decide to raise the price even more accordingly. 

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