Revonaut Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Oh interesting. Thanks for the explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 With the lack of significant mecha action in Delta recently and the difficulty of securing a VF-31J on pre-order, I'm kinda staring to get a bit disillusioned. I miss the Macross Frontier renewal toy days, when we could at least rely on Nippon Yasan for securing a pre-order, even if it was at slightly inflated prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHawk Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) What I don't understand and probably never will is, if these stores have to provide pre-order numbers to Bandai to fulfill, how would Bandai not know that they sell well? Also, I'm sorry in advance, does that macross licensing debacle still hold any sort of pull in regards to how large the production run of Valkyries are made? Considering that these stores sell to international collectors. Edited August 8, 2016 by DarkHawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auberondreaming Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Again the Bandai business model rears its head, and again I am confused by people who want Arcadia to go away. Here is the lead mecha for the new Macross series, and people can't get one. Well unless you get super lucky. We see the price is no longer really the defining difference between the two companies, as the main mecha for this new series is now close to $200 or from some sites over before shipping. $1000 for the whole squad.... if you can ever find it at MSRP. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Remember this is just the preorder though, and the main character on top of it. This one will probably wind up like Alto's with multiple releases. It's the other characters I'm concerned for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Yeah, for the 31J we are very likely to see re-releases, but even then there will be pre-order nonsense. The bottom line is Bandai has a very fan-unfriendly way of producing popular items, from Macross to Gundam to other lines. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurance Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Again the Bandai business model rears its head, and again I am confused by people who want Arcadia to go away. Here is the lead mecha for the new Macross series, and people can't get one. Well unless you get super lucky. We see the price is no longer really the defining difference between the two companies, as the main mecha for this new series is now close to $200 or from some sites over before shipping. $1000 for the whole squad.... if you can ever find it at MSRP. Yikes. Who wants Arcadia to go away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm cheng Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I don't think anyone wants Arcadia to go away (competition is always good - the more people making Macross toys the better!) - I just want them to step up their game and add more tampo details and come down a little in price. Nothing like sky high exorbitant prices on a blank toy - argh. I don't mind paying more for more, not more for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Picking up my Arcadia VF-0D, VF-OS, YF-19 and a bunch of Bandai DX's cleaning this weekend, you forgot how well made (0D leg issue not withstanding) and detailed the Arcadia stuff really is. I'm a huge fan of Bandai and appreciate the less expensive angle of their DX stuff, but the Arcadia stuff really is a cut above. That being said, for the price they charge a lot more Tampo would be be nice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Not to de-rail but Yamato/Arcadia's newer 1/60th line has always been a very good mix of toy and completed model. Their look and feel scream display piece, with an excellent ability to double as articulated perfect-transformation toy. Bandai's DX line, to me, has always been more playable and toy-like. I enjoy both for what they are, but to beat the horse a bit more I just wish they weren't so damn hard to collect. It really does take a lot of the enjoyment out of it. I just hope that the 31 line follows more in the steps of the 19 Advance with regard to quality and playability than the earlier 25 Renewals (25A being the most notable exception - being an amazing release) and even 29's. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Who wants Arcadia to go away? Bandai fanboys, people who think everything is a zero sum game, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurance Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Bandai fanboys, people who think everything is a zero sum game, etc.That makes no sense. I'm tempted to think that is just a straw man and not a real thing. Edited August 9, 2016 by aurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 There are members of this very forum who have clearly expressed their desire for Arcadia to "go under" and for Bandai to be the only game in town for Macross toys. Whether or not you believe it is up to you, as real research would require reading through years of forum posts, and I don't expect anyone to bother with that. Short version: believe whatever the hell you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 There are members of this very forum who have clearly expressed their desire for Arcadia to "go under" and for Bandai to be the only game in town for Macross toys. Whether or not you believe it is up to you, as real research would require reading through years of forum posts, and I don't expect anyone to bother with that. Short version: believe whatever the hell you want. Definitely, I'm not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukenzero Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 awesome , thank you. No problems. Nice to help people out, especially fellow fans. If there's trouble securing the units come December, hit me up. I should be able to get one or two at local prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 There will be a lot more releases. It's gonna be ok as long as nobody goes on psychotic temper tantrums. http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/toyark/101574-macross-thread-post13827215.html http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/toyark/101574-macross-thread-post13827243.html Hehe I used to frequent that board years ago but left because of that same person's constant complaining and whining. And when I tried to get him to chill out, he went all aggressive and stuff. He's a moderator too so there's basically no arguing with him. Funny thing is they used to keep saying that the folks on the MW forums were much worse than they were, but after having a few years comparing both groups, I think the MW board is more sensible in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Reality check: It's a toy. ArchieNov you're my new friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 TFW's gotten worse, MW is the same or slightly better. IMHO. I don't peek into TFW's Macross thread very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The 31 should be a good release. The 30's were much improved over the past releases and the 19 was further better. I think the 31 should have the same quality bump (unless Bandai are going to do some strange corner cutting.) I don't remember the posts but Lolicon is correct, some members directly wished for Arcadia's demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurance Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The 31 should be a good release. The 30's were much improved over the past releases and the 19 was further better. I think the 31 should have the same quality bump (unless Bandai are going to do some strange corner cutting.) I don't remember the posts but Lolicon is correct, some members directly wished for Arcadia's demise. Okay I believe you guys, but damn that still makes no sense. What would be their reasoning for wanting the only semi-competition to go out of business? That's 100% a bad thing for them even if Bandai is their one-and-only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Okay I believe you guys, but damn that still makes no sense. What would be their reasoning for wanting the only semi-competition to go out of business? That's 100% a bad thing for them even if Bandai is their one-and-only... Armchair speculation but several people expressed frustration they couldn't afford them (understandable) and/or outright disgust with people who could (a specific well-to-do member was specifically attacked a few times for his collection) so I'd assume a sort of "if I can't have it, nobody can" mentality. And then there's a few who probably think if Arcadia loses their license Bandai will magically start dipping into the Valkyrie "deep cuts" and start producing cheaper alternatives to all of them. Back on topic, I cannot wait to see how the 31 actually turns out. I'm a tad concerned about the weird rear landing gear since I keep several of the Valks parked on their gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZEOD Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Its the net... Just ignore the morons and fools and know that in the real world, you'd still laugh in their faces and walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzhao3 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I really hope some of the other valkyries won't be difficult to get.. I really want to grab the S and F variants and grabbed this J variant just in case. It sounds like S isn't that popular, but the F is... Really hoping to get two of each. Sidenote - I'm actually surprised to hear about some of the comments about this forum. I've started lurking on this forum in the beginning of the year and started participating in the past couple months, i think people here are been really nice and helpful! I skimmed through some of the tfw posts, definitely worse imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyffon Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Bandai should stop doing general releases and do make to order releases instead, this way us real collectors can all get one or five, and the scalpers can eat turds. I mean there is money to make here, I don't understand why they do not want to make money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatobbq Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Image Anime still has these available for pre-order if anyone wants one bad enough: http://www.imageanime.com/dxchvfsihimc.html Price is pretty steep ($250 + $25 shipping) and the full amount is due at checkout, but other than their prices, they seem to have a generally a good reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revonaut Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Wow. It's 25 dollars off from 275 so that's a nice sale! /s Even more ridiculous is that they have a HMR Max for 130! I'm still hoping I'll get a order for that one at HLJ in the next several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Image Anime still has these available for pre-order if anyone wants one bad enough: http://www.imageanime.com/dxchvfsihimc.html Price is pretty steep ($250 + $25 shipping) and the full amount is due at checkout, but other than their prices, they seem to have a generally a good reputation. Knowing that they have good reputation and all, what are the chances that you can score one knowing that most of the popular japanese store is already sold out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatwave Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Each time I see a new post I'm always hopeful on new info the VF-31C. Why must you guys keep disappointing me?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortech Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 TFW's gotten worse, MW is the same or slightly better. IMHO. I don't peek into TFW's Macross thread very often. A bit OT, but I have been lurking on MW since I attended MW con 01, and the MW community tends to be more helpful in all aspects of life, whereas the TFW community can get a bit hectic. Bought a combiner from a moderator on TFW and the whole transaction was a nightmare. I don't even post on TFW I just lurk there like no other, here I will post every now and then because everyone is nice and civil. MW community is where it is at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Well said. Most around here are civil, and cool people who are nice to deal with. I have never been ripped off or had a shady deal on this website. The only time I ever bought anything off TFW I got ripped off to the tune of 25 bucks not a huge deal but I now hang my hat here 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 This is an amazing forum. I visited the Gundam.com forums many years ago... Now that was a real cesspool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-Zer0S Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 After catching up on Delta, I'm maybe probably going to have to get the F type. I hope this series gets a couple movies to expand on the valkryies a la the YF-29. Something like a YF-35 or VF-32. I wonder what Kawamori has planned for us next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatwave Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Off topic but while I agree TFW is kinda bad, years ago (early or mid 2000s?) TFW was waaay more toxic. I remember one incident where one of the mods (Kickback I think) started a vicious attack on one of the members who was going through a rough time and just wanted to express her opinion on something, and the whole community jumped on board to attack her as well without repercussions. People only seemed to back off a bit when I called them out on their behavior, but really the mods should have nipped that in the bud asap, let alone allow one of their own staff to even start it. Anyway, enough of that site's community, back to our beloved DX VF-31. What is the likelihood of Bandai making the rest of the VF-31's exclusives? And will they continue releasing them in reverse order since Hayate's is 05, go back to 01, or based on popularity or presence in the show? Edited August 10, 2016 by Heatwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoexcaliber Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Off topic but while I agree TFW is kinda bad, years ago (early or mid 2000s?) TFW was waaay more toxic. I remember one incident where one of the mods (Kickback I think) started a vicious attack on one of the members who was going through a rough time and just wanted to express her opinion on something, and the whole community jumped on board to attack her as well without repercussions. People only seemed to back off a bit when I called them out on their behavior, but really the mods should have nipped that in the bud asap, let alone allow one of their own staff to even start it. Anyway, enough of that site's community, back to our beloved DX VF-31. What is the likelihood of Bandai making the rest of the VF-31's exclusives? And will they continue releasing them in reverse order since Hayate's is 05, go back to 01, or based on popularity or presence in the show? My money is on the 31S being the next 31 to be released and all the 6 main 31 valks (including the A) will probably be regular releases. Just a guess though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheky Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Are the pics thus far indicative of what the final product will look like? I'm really liking the matte finish I've seen so far on the VF31s. It makes the 29s' shiny plastic look like a cheap knock off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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