wmkjr Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Hopefully sometime in 2017 would be good as it will be the 15th anniversary for Zero although the RA would count for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Let's hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 3 hours ago, no3Ljm said: I doubt that the SV-51y Ivanov will be released this year. Though it was announced this year. Yeah i'm, thinking it will be 1st quarter 2018 release IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Same. I think it'll be a real rethink of the design, which will take time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Sildani said: Same. I think it'll be a real rethink of the design, which will take time. ...and another blog post to explain why their upcoming release will be expensive again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 arcadia's pricing includes cost of mr k writing a blog... how can they explain away the expected high price of this bad boy...like more tampo action?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 This has been used already as Prenium Finish, Arcadia can now introducing "Ultra" Finish, metallic paint with more tampo than Prenium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Xigfrid said: This has been used already as Prenium Finish, Arcadia can now introducing "Ultra" Finish, metallic paint with more tampo than Prenium! They need to add led lighting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Nah. Sound effects through a tiny, crappy speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giantman Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Racing stripes, white letter tires, big ass spoiler, and an exclusive sneak peak to the new CBS police drama starring Roy Fokker's VF-1S as the "Lone Wolf" detective who gets on the wrong side of the police chief because he always has the mayor breathing down his neck for breaking all the rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechapilot77 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 so whats next for arcadia is warning us about KOs/bootlegs... so i guess i always thought yamato/arcadia stuff was too hard to make profitably as a bootlegger (i mean the way some things are molded, the sharpness of the details which are very hard to fill in molding process tells me you'll get logs of rejects)....i guess that is no longer the case http://arcadia.ac/user_data/notice5.php i kind of wonder if this warning will actually backfire for them. i mean we macross collectors typically are used to paying high dollar amounts for our stuff but i could see how certain people in our hobby might opt for the cheaper way out. Also secondary market prices make it "ripe" for ko makers to come in and undersell people. i hope these ko makers don't succeed because tht will undoubtedly lower the "value" or the real ones when some of use go to sell and move on from certain pieces in our collections... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) The demand for super and strike parts is big and they keep on ignoring it. It would be really funny if the KO VF-1 had more tampo prints Edited March 14, 2017 by chyll2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2k6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I would buy one of those thing just to see the quality of the material. Weijang made a very good KO of Mp10...maybe we can get the same here. (bigger and better). P.S: I don't know where to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm really not surprised actually seeing that there's KO Metal Builds Gundams which I might say it looks perfectly the same as the original. The only thing I really don't like is that the joints of the KO one is much tighter than Bandai's loose joints. Hahaha! But this thing really not gonna stop. Remember those old Takatoku clones? Forgot what it's called but yeah, it's not a surprise anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barurutor Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Taobao (I think) lists KO Macross items... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm a bit surprised it took so long for the KO people to be attempting this. Arcadia's ridiculously expensive pricing coupled with the lack of availability of fan-wanted items/accessories are just ripe for those bootleggers to exploit. Afaict, anything made in China (or even Vietnam and elsewhere asian factories) are bootlegged rather easily. Arcadia better smarten up and produce the stuff the fans want and at the pricing the fans can actually justifiably afford... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm curious to see what's out there for KOs. Some Transformer KOs are really well done like MPP10. It might be a good to get ahold of rare super expensive molds that are no longer produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) I'm all for KO...it creates competition. Anyone who says it's stealing...one of the first rules of business sucess is to answer the question, "Is my business easily duplicated?". So if you are a business that takes advantage of cheap labor in a country that doesn't have the same rules that you do, it's on you to deal with the risks that come with it. I buy based on value to me. If something is great from the get go and priced reasonably, I will absolutely buy the original. If a KO has better quality, features or other advantages, little to no drawbacks and is cheaper, then it would be silly to me not at least consider that instead. Edited March 14, 2017 by Slave IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobytrap Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thanks Arcadia for bringing that to my attention. I didn't know these were out there and now I do. I'll be sure to be on the look out for them. Normally I would not purchase bootlegs. I always get the official product when given the option. In fact the only bootleg I have ever purchased were the PG Gundam display stands. Bandai only made them once, in solid black, and charged an outrageous $80 for them. They were already out of print when I went to buy them so it was either bootleg or nothing. By getting the bootleg I was able to get the stands that some PG require (looking at you 00 Riser) and get them in clear. Arcadia has basically put me in the same spot. Whether their fault or not (due to licensing issues) they have yet to release a stand alone super/strike pack and what they do release comes out at a slow trickle. For people like me with a lot of gaps in my collection I'm left with either paying exorbitant after market prices (which limits my gap filling ability) or going the bootleg route if/when they come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'd buy a Wang-Chung MPPPP-VF-1....if it looked like this.... (the big one not the 1/55....well, actually I'd buy an upscaled Chunky Monkey too...like a 24" tall version with extra detailing!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I say bring on a bigger badder bootleg for less money!! I'm all in (looks over at MPP-10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2k6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Now the question is...where we can get one of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The funny thing about this bootlegging issue is... the bootleggers might just possibly get the correct tv/ova-accurate colors on their bootlegged valks and FPs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazinger Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I won't lie, I googled around for KO's, and have yet to find any of anything not 1/55 or from Macross7 - not on eBay, Alibaba, or just now on TaoBao English. There's Gundam KO's a plenty, but not for Macross, which I guess is some indication of where the franchise lies in popularity if bootleggers don't want to take a risk to produce them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mazinger said: I won't lie, I googled around for KO's, and have yet to find any of anything not 1/55 or from Macross7 - not on eBay, Alibaba, or just now on TaoBao English. There's Gundam KO's a plenty, but not for Macross, which I guess is some indication of where the franchise lies in popularity if bootleggers don't want to take a risk to produce them. Yeah same here. Couldn't find anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardlyNever Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mazinger said: I won't lie, I googled around for KO's, and have yet to find any of anything not 1/55 or from Macross7 - not on eBay, Alibaba, or just now on TaoBao English. There's Gundam KO's a plenty, but not for Macross, which I guess is some indication of where the franchise lies in popularity if bootleggers don't want to take a risk to produce them. It took me about 5 minutes on the Chinese Taobao to find products using the exact pictures that the Arcadia warning uses. I'm not going to link them here, as I don't know how that kind of thing is looked upon here. The prices are ridiculously low (Like sub $10 USD), so there is no way I'd ever buy them (as it seems WAY to good to be true), but they are out there. Maybe a braver soul would try it, just to see what they actually get. I'd be nervous about even giving out payment info/address, but that is me. Most are marked as KO's, so they aren't even pretending to be the real deal. Edit: Those prices might just be for pre-orders, I'm not sure. I don't read chinese, so I'm going off of a bad google translation, which is a mess. Edited March 14, 2017 by HardlyNever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2k6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I thinks this ko version in not out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazinger Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, HardlyNever said: It took me about 5 minutes on the Chinese Taobao to find products using the exact pictures that the Arcadia warning uses. I'm not going to link them here, as I don't know how that kind of thing is looked upon here. The prices are ridiculously low (Like sub $10 USD), so there is no way I'd ever buy them (as it seems WAY to good to be true), but they are out there. Maybe a braver soul would try it, just to see what they actually get. I'd be nervous about even giving out payment info/address, but that is me. Most are marked as KO's, so they aren't even pretending to be the real deal. Edit: Those prices might just be for pre-orders, I'm not sure. I don't read chinese, so I'm going off of a bad google translation, which is a mess. Hmm, interesting that those results didn't turn up on the Taobao English. The sheer variety of goods is interesting in that I wouldn't expect anyone would create KO's of such a variety of items. I also see a listing for what looks like the new ride armors announced at Wonderfest. Really wish I could read Mandarin. Actually, even that is an assumption. Could be Cantonese AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Curious though. Is HG a KO/3P company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, no3Ljm said: Curious though. Is HG a KO/3P company? Well, they do buy out KO products that no one wants and then repackage them with the HG logo to make them legit products that no one wants....does that count? https://world.taobao.com/item/545062434648.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-15920461441.19.ftePzI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I hope this obligate arcadia to lower their prices because once again Remains in evidence that can keep prices more affordable and start to work in new macross items and not only expensive reeditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2k6 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) Here we have a little translation. For what I see. This is set to release in June of 2017 for 450 yuans (65 dollars more or less) is a small run. And you can pre order for 50 yuans. And they will release a M&M KO on August. Edited March 15, 2017 by Pedro2k6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave IV Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If the quality is equal or better than Arcadia, I'm in for M&M. Might buy the official too if they ever come out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardlyNever Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 At those prices, I don't see how the quality could match Arcadia, but I'd love to be wrong. I'd jump at an M&M pair for under $200. Hopefully someone will get the first releases and give us an idea of the quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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