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Give Bandai a few months... :p

Dunno. We said that about the YF-30 Chronos, which came out over a year ago, and no repaints yet. Which, now I think of it, is odd.

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Dunno. We said that about the YF-30 Chronos, which came out over a year ago, and no repaints yet. Which, now I think of it, is odd.

Yeah. That's true too. And they didn't even came up with any option parts to replace the missle pod area either even though Kawamori thought of it based on his interview videos.

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I am wondering if that is because the 30, or an iteration of it, will show up in Delta. Could be holding back to keep it unsaturated, and than blitz us when the new series launches.

Yeah. Didn't thought of that. If that's the case and they decided on producing option parts for it, I only wish they will make some for Leon's YF-30. ;)

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would it be so silly to assume that maybe Macross Delta would be center around the YF-30 seeing that its essentially a Delta configuration?

not that I'd mind that at all but we've now had the 30 around for a while so its not exactly brand spanking new anymore.. It will be interesting to see if they have come up with some Valkyrie design for the series but then the 30 would be kinda pushed to the side lines without having the screen time it deserves..

or maybe im just talking crap..

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I'm not really sure what the point of the 30 is other than as a missile boat. The 29 seems like the better fighter all around.

Amongst other things, it has more guns, still has plenty of internal missiles. It's biggest advantage is it has two extra engines to provide more thrust, excess power for SWAG and PPB in fighter mode, and can pivot to direct thrust.

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I'm not really sure what the point of the 30 is other than as a missile boat. The 29 seems like the better fighter all around.

Amongst other things, it has more guns, still has plenty of internal missiles. It's biggest advantage is it has two extra engines to provide more thrust, excess power for SWAG and PPB in fighter mode, and can pivot to direct thrust.

Well I agree that the 29 is a better all round performer (good looking to) but the cost and complexity added with ozma' statement in the series that implies the lack of training (hence skills) of nuns pilot will make it prohibitive as a CF. I think vf-25 will be in widespread in widespread nuns fleet use (imagine messiah in nightmare blue) with 29 as spec force fighter like the hamaval. Edited by valkryenov
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Well I agree that the 29 is a better all round performer (good looking to) but the cost and complexity added with ozma' statement in the series that implies the lack of training (hence skills) of nuns pilot will make it prohibitive as a CF. I think vf-25 will be in widespread in widespread nuns fleet use (imagine messiah in nightmare blue) with 29 as spec force fighter like the hamaval.

I wasn't really making any argument for the 29 becoming a CF fighter, especially with the rarity of the fold quartz. Not sure anyone was.

Was just speaking about the apparent uselessness of the 30 since it lacks firepower for extended engagements compared to its predecessors. Once it blows its container load of missiles, all it's got left are the head lasers and gunpod.

It's only got one very specific specialized ability and that is to break through fold faults. I don't really see that as useful in general every day use.

So yeah, if there's anything that is likely to replace the VF-171, it would be the 25 due to its multi-role adaptability, as long as it's not deemed as too much of a hero valk. Or they might finally decide that some cheaper variant of the 19 will be for the masses like the EF, which Isamu's is actually a custom variant of, VF-19 EF/A. (Thus bringing this discussion back to the 19 :p)

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While I would like to have a whole new setup of Valkyries for Macross Delta I think a retrofitted YF-29 could be pretty cool. They could keep the major airframe but ditch the fold crystals or the extra missile pods in the shoulders and legs. Keep the turret and change the forward swept wings into a delta configuration and switch the rail gun for a more conservative gun-pod. I imagine a cross between the YF-29, the VF-27 and YF-24. Maybe have a different way to fold the wings to a backpack. I always thought that the wings on the Messiah would be much better if the folded the other direction forming armor for the cockpit.

OT: VF-19ADVANCE; still not like the amount of printed details. ^_^

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Interesting idea Scyla.. I like it.

A cf VF -29 with delta wings..and some vf-27 influences to boot. 👍

I guess talking about this on the vf-19 advanced thread is inevitable since we can't talk about it on the Delta thread..

Back to our regular scheduled program- is there consensus on what's the weak/floppy point of this vf-19 advanced?

I love mine in fighter mode & will rarely if ever transform it.

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I wasn't really making any argument for the 29 becoming a CF fighter, especially with the rarity of the fold quartz. Not sure anyone was.

Was just speaking about the apparent uselessness of the 30 since it lacks firepower for extended engagements compared to its predecessors. Once it blows its container load of missiles, all it's got left are the head lasers and gunpod.

It's only got one very specific specialized ability and that is to break through fold faults. I don't really see that as useful in general every day use.

So yeah, if there's anything that is likely to replace the VF-171, it would be the 25 due to its multi-role adaptability, as long as it's not deemed as too much of a hero valk. Or they might finally decide that some cheaper variant of the 19 will be for the masses like the EF, which Isamu's is actually a custom variant of, VF-19 EF/A. (Thus bringing this discussion back to the 19 :p)

Long ago, I read that the YF-29 , (i assume like the YF-30), if anything is just a temporary "Frankenstein" of VF-25 parts and was supposed to be a "one-off". Its original intention was to act as an anti-vajra fold relay fighter to project Ranka's song to the Vajra. It never was meant to be mass produced or past the prototype stage. Then when Macross 30 came in I don't know what happened with that supposed explanation and can't find it anywhere anymore since there is now an Isamu, Ozma and Rod custom. Lol.

Seeing that both YF-29 an YF-30 are supposed to be specialised anti-vajra fighters, seem unlikely they will see mass-production. And the fold quartz that come from Vajra corpses will be rarer since the Vajra disappeared from the galaxy after the events of Frontier. The VF-25 being the new mainstay fighter would be most likely.

Sorry now back to the 19. :D

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The YF-29 is the VF-25 with integrated Tornado parts. That doesn't necessarily conflict with the notion that it's also a hodgepodge of VF-25 parts. I like the idea that the YF-29 and YF-30 would just lose any fold quartz specific attributes when making the jump to VF status. Personally though, while I like the toys, I think the YF-29 is a little too super valk. A VF-30 as cannon fodder seems perfect to me, and I'd hope that another change in going to VF is that the stabilizers would fold upward.

Maybe what we'll see is a convergence of several fleets that all have different mainstay fighters. Or maybe there will be one fleet that has squadrons of various fighters and among them each one has cannon fodder members and heroes. I'm burnt out on VF-25 and YF-29s but I have to imagine Bandai has plans for their YF-30 and VF-19Advance molds beyond the one-offs we have so far.

You know what I'd like to see (besides a VF-21Advance), a VF-19Advance Guld custom as a sort of alternate universe what-if.

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Hmm.....anybody wanna bet they'll make the next main Valk the VF-35? To go along with the F-35 hub bub?

hehehe! so does that mean the toy will take years to develop, be really heavy, difficult to transform and expensive to buy just like the real F-35!? :p:D:lol:

with all due respects to the real F-35 which I do like of course.. :rolleyes:

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I agree that YF-30 is perfect for Cannon Fodders. Budget-wise they will save a lot of money doing the CG drawings. Once all the missles goes Itano Circus, they're eventually get shot down and explode and cut the scene. Whereas if you use YF-29 as a Cannon Fodder, there will be no excuse for that one to get shot down after the missles went out since it's going to use more of the barrel cannons and lots of knife stabbing action as well. :lol:

OT: My VF-19 Advance joints are still tight as well. And he's in Gerwalk mode. ;)

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I wonder if Bandai has the VF-19ACTIVE rights. *drools*

Let's just hope that Bandai will acquire the rights from Dengeki first so that they can a lot of VF-19's. ;) That Nothung is in my list if it gets made by Bandai or Arcadia. :wub:

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Put the boosters onto my VF-19 for the first time today (I've been keeping it in gerwalk/battroid, and I'm not a fan of having the boosters on in those modes), and like pretty much everyone else the right side booster won't fully attach securely. I know there's three connection points for the boosters; two on the wing root and one on the innermost hardpoint. The right side booster attaches to the hardpoint connection just fine, and while I can get the booster to grip the wing root connection points, they won't stay connected there and immediately pop off those points. It's so odd because the left booster attaches so easily.

For people who were able to successfully get the right booster fully attached, what was your trick?

I was, however, happy to find that the booster stays on surprisingly well with just the hardpoint connection so it's not that big a deal, it'd just be nice to have it attached properly. :lol:

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Put the boosters onto my VF-19 for the first time today (I've been keeping it in gerwalk/battroid, and I'm not a fan of having the boosters on in those modes), and like pretty much everyone else the right side booster won't fully attach securely. I know there's three connection points for the boosters; two on the wing root and one on the innermost hardpoint. The right side booster attaches to the hardpoint connection just fine, and while I can get the booster to grip the wing root connection points, they won't stay connected there and immediately pop off those points. It's so odd because the left booster attaches so easily.

For people who were able to successfully get the right booster fully attached, what was your trick?

I was, however, happy to find that the booster stays on surprisingly well with just the hardpoint connection so it's not that big a deal, it'd just be nice to have it attached properly. :lol:

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I'm pretty sure this has been covered in this thread before, try to look at previous posts.

But in essence attaching the booster is about aligning the wing and the fuselage.

That's why I did, once I discover the right angle, I have no problem attaching the booster.

Hope that helps.

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I'm pretty sure this has been covered in this thread before, try to look at previous posts.

But in essence attaching the booster is about aligning the wing and the fuselage.

That's why I did, once I discover the right angle, I have no problem attaching the booster.

Hope that helps.

I've followed the thread pretty closely since its inception, and the only advice I could recall was to ensure that all three connection points were locked into place. Unfortunately, that's exactly what's giving me trouble.

As I said, on the left side everything lines up perfectly with no problem and the booster snaps in easily, but on the right side it just seems like nothing matches up. I dunno, guess things just aren't clicking for me. :)

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