matic Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Still like this valk something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 All I know is that it still looks pretty good to me and the stand doesn't bother me either. Very much looking forward to this and I can't wait to enjoy it in my hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Stand is kinda awful, but i'll be using a flight pose stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahouth Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) No way I'm getting this, unless I see someone else having no problems with the NUNS triangles. Also BANDAI should REALLY start issuing replacement parts as well as start having quality control. Edited July 18, 2014 by Vahouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm cheng Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah, I'm in with that "stand is awful" crowd. Really, what were they thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Stand stinks. Transformation sequence looks amazingly complicated. Bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm absolutely certain they were thinking the same thing as all the other stands they've made. "We don't care how ducking fugly these are, they're functional, and people will buy them anyway." It's why all of mine have never seen the light of day for longer than it took to remove the valk from the box. Also, as far as shattered NUNS triangles are concerned, check the recent posts on the 171CF thread. I don't think the shoulders are a materials problem so much as their hired labor on the assembly line being hamfisted imbeciles. The triangles aren't under any stress... unless you over-tighten the screws in the shoulder triangles, and then attempt to jam them over the metal shoulder blocks. The screws should be left loose until the shoulders are on, to let the parts spread over the shoulders. Not saying there aren't any material or design problems (the parts are needlessly intricate, and the materials around the knee joint tend to shatter), but after comparing a set of broken NUNS pieces with a set of perfectly fine ones, the cracks all originate from near that screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 The next time someone complains about one of Arcadia's stands I will kindly direct them to this thread. I've ordered (1) and I'm good with that, it will remain in it's cardboard prison until I decide that I want to sell it or I get REALLY bored one day. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I don't own a VF-171. Is the tab that connects the cradle to the stand the same size tab as on the VF-25's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The next time someone complains about one of Arcadia's stands I will kindly direct them to this thread. I've ordered (1) and I'm good with that, it will remain in it's cardboard prison until I decide that I want to sell it or I get REALLY bored one day. -b. Lol. Poor Luca. I'm hoping that that is the stand configuration for having the lower sensor thingy in deployed mode. The rest of it looks like standard bandai fare, so with luck there will be an option to display with the thing retracted on a more regular stand configuration. I don't own a VF-171. Is the tab that connects the cradle to the stand the same size tab as on the VF-25's? Affirmative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sweet. Less work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saburo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Sweet. Less work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 This is why Flight Pose exists! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I have to agree with everyone. That stand looks awful. Not really digging how the antenna gets in the way of the back folding down. Looks pretty silly like that. This will remain in fighter mode for me for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Looking at the RVF-171, especially the Battroid mode at Mr March' site, it's quite obvious Bandai just completely got Battroid mode wrong in regards this release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This is a fighter mode only display for me too, but I will most likely ditch the hideous granny walker stand. Seems they would have been able to come up with a more elegant solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This is a fighter mode only display for me too, but I will most likely ditch the hideous granny walker stand. Seems they would have been able to come up with a more elegant solution. You'd think so, but as these releases have been coming out they seem to be half-assing things more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 You'd think so, but as these releases have been coming out they seem to be half-assing things more and more. I know it's like the V2 Golden Era has passed right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukenzero Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Don't know if this has been posted yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Nice. Notice how it can be posed on the flightstand without those two weird bars sticking out front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
close313 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 That's much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 That's.... Not bad actually. I can live with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Perhaps the holes to fit those two front bars could be used for attaching ghosts from the RVF-25 super set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I like the rvf-171 look but after struggling to transform my vf-171 from B to fighter. I'd rather get something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Nice. Notice how it can be posed on the flightstand without those two weird bars sticking out front. I was betting on that being the case. I am sure the altered attachment point will change the center of balance limiting its ability to be banking/climbing. I am not sure I want to own a VF-171 after all of the explosion stories in here, but I may have to... For science! Edited July 26, 2014 by ChaoticYeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 You'll be ok. There is a risk on the CF triangles, though mine are fine. The leg/knee thing is just a case of not forcing anything when putting the legs back to fighter mode. They'll only rotate back into position when they are almost flat against the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticYeti Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 You'll be ok. There is a risk on the CF triangles, though mine are fine. The leg/knee thing is just a case of not forcing anything when putting the legs back to fighter mode. They'll only rotate back into position when they are almost flat against the body. I thought the exploding triangles afflicted all 171 releases. Is it just the cannon fodder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 From everything I've read, yes. I'm waiting for my Alto version to arrive so I'll know personally soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) You'll be ok. There is a risk on the CF triangles, though mine are fine. The leg/knee thing is just a case of not forcing anything when putting the legs back to fighter mode. They'll only rotate back into position when they are almost flat against the body. After studying the CF I've taken apart quite a bit, I can say that it's actually more than that, since the design itself is so darn shoddy. The metallic looking plastic used in the knee joints can have some serious structural issues for the areas they're using it for. The stresses of that lower leg rotation were too much for one of my CF's knee joints, and it exploded into obsidian-like shards, broken right across the flow lines visible in the plastic. Here's the thing about the lower leg rotation.. Bandai wrote their own directions WRONG.. They show you dropping the legs at the knee joint, and then rotating the lower leg at that point. That only barely works going from fighter to gerwalk, and it won't work at all going back to fighter mode. Since they don't bother to write directions to go back to fighter, they figure the transformation is the same both directions. In this case, it is not. In order for the lower leg rotation to properly unlock, the knee must be ENTIRELY UNBENT. Because of the shape of the knee joint, any bend in the knee will pull the joint out slightly, and keep the lower leg rotation from engaging correctly. Going from fighter to gerwalk, there is enough slippage in the mechanism to let the leg rotate with the knee pulled down one click. But that rotation is one-way only, and it will not rotate back after you do it. I always wondered why it was so easy to turn the leg when going to gerwalk from fighter mode, but I could never get it to turn back. This is why. It took me removing the leg entirely before I was able to notice this, because reversing the instructions would have you snap the thighs back into the belly before rotating the legs back to fighter position The solution? Do not rotate the lower legs with the knees bent. The step where they show it done should be replaced by dropping the legs at the hip joint, not at the knee. That's the only way to get the rotation to work freely. When going back to fighter, rotate the legs into the right orientation before snapping the thighs back in, and then you can still bend the knee very slightly while snapping the legs up into the belly. And when you rotate it, hold the leg by the knee joint, and lower leg, because otherwise you're also applying a bunch of off-center torque to that thigh pivot, which is prone to shattering due to extreme structural engineering incompetence on the part of the design team. Now, is there some note in Japanese telling people about this? That I can't say. All I know is that the instructions only show rotating the lower leg while the knee is bent, which will only work one direction. Edited July 26, 2014 by Chronocidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tking22 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Meh on this color scheme, still a pass for me, I just want a fixed cannon fodder release so I can own at least one VF-171. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Heheh.. I need to get to work making a shapeways version for everyone. Stupid distracting life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 going back to the ugly stand. I use the stand on all my frontier since I don't have anything else. But changing it from black to clear would make it look twice as cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakken85 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I just want to see it stand straight up with no assistance haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Looks like I was wrong about the Ghosts. He does have Ghosts for literally a split second in episode 24.I'm sure we are going to get a Super set for this now, with white ghosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceoftherebellion Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I'm still wary after my CF 171 shattered at the main transformation point between the cockpit and the torso/chest area. Maybe it was manufacturing monkeys overtightening the screws and being overzealous with the metal pins, but I know I'm not the only one who's had that particular problem. The shoulder triangles are a minor nuisance that's relatively easy to work around, but to have the main load-bearing transform structure not only fail, but fail catastrophically has put me off on any future 171s until I know nobody else has that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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