spanner Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 To be fair MPP-10 is a KO, not third party. ahhh... I kinda thought anything other than a Takara toy were all 3rd party/knock offs.. I guess im still not up to the TF toy market lingo yet.. probably a good thing too! You're welcome sir. By now, you should've already tried ube and pandan. Ii'm confused. I thought MPP-10 is already a 3P? Since it's not a direct KO of the existing actual product, right? I mean, they already made it bigger. I did have some type of strange icecream whilst in the UK but I forgot the name of it.. I did ask the chick at the restaraunt and she said what ever it was is similar.. hehe! and yes I though the same.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's an oversized KO of MP-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's an oversized KO of MP-10. Yep MPP10 is a oversized ver. of MP-10 but what is the Takara MP-10 toy classified as? is it 3rd party? im still confused.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Takara MP-10 is an official MP Optimus Prime. Any figure made by other companies that are unauthorized by Hasbro or Takara falls under 3rd party. Upgrade parts, etc too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Takara MP-10 is an official MP Optimus Prime. Any figure made by other companies that are unauthorized by Hasbro or Takara falls under 3rd party. Upgrade parts, etc too. so that essentially makes the MPP10 a 3rd party toy even if its just an oversized copy (KO) of the "official" MP-10 toy yes!? Edited July 25, 2016 by spanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) The exception being that there are also different types of KO's that are just considered KO's. Direct KO's, KO's with upgraded or downgraded modifications, oversized KO's, etc. MPP-10 is more of a KO. Edited July 25, 2016 by sh9000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Cool, well then the way I see it is its still a 3rd party toy being produced by someone other than Takara/Hasbro.. (as you mentioned) And yes its a knock off but I don't quite see it as direct knock off as its been enlarged and has numerous detail changes and improvements. Personally I think its different enough to be its own toy outright. ok moving on.. Edited July 25, 2016 by spanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 My two newest additions! If only they had made the Shadow Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 My two newest additions! If only they had made the Shadow Beta. Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easnoddy Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 My two newest additions! If only they had made the Shadow Beta. Never, EVER transform them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Cool, well then the way I see it is its still a 3rd party toy being produced by someone other than Takara/Hasbro.. (as you mentioned) And yes its a knock off but I don't quite see it as direct knock off as its been enlarged and has numerous detail changes and improvements. Personally I think its different enough to be its own toy outright. ok moving on.. Ok. I think I understand now that the MPP-10 probably is more like to be called an 'oversize' KO. Whereas a 3P one is more like an overhaul/reimagined of an existing character without the approval of the original maker. Funny that I googled and stumbled to the TF wiki explaining the term 'KO'. Since MPP-10 is similar or identical then based on that definition by TF's, it's a KO. A knockoff is a product similar or identical to a product of one company, but made by another without the authorization of the original maker. In the Transformers fandom, the term is commonly abbreviated KO. The term bootleg is also sometimes used as a synonym. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Knockoff Ok. Like spanner said... moving on. My two newest additions! If only they had made the Shadow Beta. Congrats! Are you planning on getting the EVO one too in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Very nice! Thank you good sir, they were such a good deal I couldn't resist!! Never, EVER transform them. Normally I never would but I did attempt the Shadow FIghter and I must say that it is the tightest most secure Alpha ever, next best thing to the Beta which I always felt was solid as a rock. As for my prior experience with Scott... I would not transform that one. Congrats! Are you planning on getting the EVO one too in the future? Thank you!! So far I like what I see with ET and their Legioss, I'm hoping they learned some lessons from the VF-2SS of what & what NOT to do. Looking forward to it and heaven help us some actual Ride-Armors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Thank you!! So far I like what I see with ET and their Legioss, I'm hoping they learned some lessons from the VF-2SS of what & what NOT to do. Looking forward to it and heaven help us some actual Ride-Armors! Yup. I'm looking forward for another take on Ride Armors. Hope it's subpar as the Beagle ones but hoping it's not that expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Yup. I'm looking forward for another take on Ride Armors. Hope it's subpar as the Beagle ones but hoping it's not that expensive. Same here, the Beagle was a great looking toy yet way over priced, way to complicated to transform and parts that wouldn't lock in place like the seat & windscreen. And for heaven sakes make Yellow & Rook first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Macross Delta Vol 1 Metal Build Strike Freedom Wings of Light. This came nicely packaged by Bandai. Comes with a slipcover to bundle up the figire and the WOL set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbadon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Nice purchases, Anubis! Delta box art looks really pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlenhoff Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The Glaug and The TV SDF-1 have finally arrived. Pictures will be up soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Rasp Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Anubis, make sure to post some pictures of the Strike Freedom with the wings! I am waiting on the wings of light for destiny and will probably get the Metal Build Blue Astray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorClone Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Never, EVER transform them. I actually lol'd The Glaug and The TV SDF-1 have finally arrived. Pictures will be up soon... mine are finally on their way now too, I had to give up hoping I could ship the Monster with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Adding here Astralith's VF-1S kit and Froy's TV Super Packs. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Adding here Astralith's VF-1S kit and Froy's TV Super Packs. Thanks guys! looks great buddy! well done! I too have a VF-1S inbound but an un-assembled assembly kit.. I really wanna try put this one together myself! this could be disastrous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 looks great buddy! well done! I too have a VF-1S inbound but an un-assembled assembly kit.. I really wanna try put this one together myself! this could be disastrous! Thanks spanner! Yeah, I'm also looking for an unbuilt one since this one I got it pre-built from Astralith. And I want to experience building one in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barurutor Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 nice. going to panel line and decal it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Thanks spanner! Yeah, I'm also looking for an unbuilt one since this one I got it pre-built from Astralith. And I want to experience building one in the future. Im both looking forward to and terrified of the build at the same time! Hehe! Hey u wanna buy mine!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 nice. going to panel line and decal it? Have to practice airbrushing first. Hehehe. Im both looking forward to and terrified of the build at the same time! Hehe! Hey u wanna buy mine!? Sure! Care to PM me shipped price, dear sir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Sure! Care to PM me shipped price, dear sir? hmmm.. I'll wait till it arrives first then I'll see how I feel about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spanner Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 image.jpeg LOL! @ the beatles yellow submarine! Hotwheels will do anything eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Yeah Hot Wheels makes a lot of different vehicles. Just got this. SDCC NECA Aliens Newt. Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis20 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Late to the party but i got the Cosmo fleet SDF-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dapro Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Just got Spit fire and the paint work on the head ain't bad. The eyes look good and no bloody mouth. It is the same size as the 2000 G, thought it would be bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 very good! congrats muchly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralith Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Thanks spanner! Yeah, I'm also looking for an unbuilt one since this one I got it pre-built from Astralith. And I want to experience building one in the future. It's a hassle Bud trust me XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's a hassle Bud trust me XD Really? Was it because of those pins? Or just in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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