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You know, I didn't realize this until re-watching the cartoon version of the Dark Knight Returns again, (which I think is the best Batman movie ever made by the way) but when the Mutant leader almost kills Batman in the landfill/mud pit, he's using a crowbar.

And that's right when Carrie shows up to save him.

I must have read the comic100 times and never got this symbolism! They mention Jason in the comic/film several times in reference to his death and how Batman deals with it. Frank Miller was such a great comic writer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jryXbaOCPmk#t=142

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Well, the Iron Man suit is restrictive cuz it's armor. The stuntman couldn't move. When they made the suit for the 1st movie, they built a full suit. The guy inside had to walk slowly to avoid popping off the parts and cuz the stuntman couldn't move. As for the Winter Soldier, he wore a wrapping around his arm that actually looked like the actual cyborg arm but with motion capture dots on it. This is why I liked Nolan's approach and he just seperated the damn cowl from the neck. No need to CG it.

Nlan's bats still couldn't turn his neck... plus that suit sucked.. :D

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Nlan's bats still couldn't turn his neck... plus that suit sucked.. :D

Agreed. The suit in Batman Begins sucked, one reason why being he couldn't turn his neck.

The suit in Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises was awesome, speaking from a mobility and aesthetic stand-point. B))

-b.

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You know, I didn't realize this until re-watching the cartoon version of the Dark Knight Returns again, (which I think is the best Batman movie ever made by the way) but when the Mutant leader almost kills Batman in the landfill/mud pit, he's using a crowbar.

And that's right when Carrie shows up to save him.

I must have read the comic100 times and never got this symbolism! They mention Jason in the comic/film several times in reference to his death and how Batman deals with it. Frank Miller was such a great comic writer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jryXbaOCPmk#t=142

Sorry to break it to you, but DITF was written and released about 2-3 years AFTER DKR, so if anything the writers of that used the insinuation from DKR to help their story along...

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See, told you they were bringing something to SDCC

(spoiler'd for size)

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As well as a new full body pic of Bats and the previously posted pic of Supes.

And they showed a very brief teaser which you can find a description here:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/310477-comic-con-warner-bros-pictures-panel-live-blog

http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/comic-con-2014-live-warner-bros-hall-h-panel-kicks-off-saturday/

http://www.slashfilm.com/batman-v-superman-teaser-trailer-description-comic-con-2014/

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See, told you they were bringing something to SDCC

(spoiler'd for size)

BtfLTo5IYAAnYfc.jpg

As well as a new full body pic of Bats and the previously posted pic of Supes.

And they showed a very brief teaser which you can find a description here:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/310477-comic-con-warner-bros-pictures-panel-live-blog

http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/comic-con-2014-live-warner-bros-hall-h-panel-kicks-off-saturday/

http://www.slashfilm.com/batman-v-superman-teaser-trailer-description-comic-con-2014/

Wonder Woman of the Titans!

:lol:

-b.

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I love the new Bat-Suit, but I really dislike Wonder Woman's look, too boring and dark, I mean I hope it's just because of the ash and dark grittiness, but there's not enough color for me.

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I want this, Wonder Woman needs some more color, look at the new Superman suit, it's much brighter, hopefully her costume isn't finalized yet.
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Yeah looks like 300 haha

Well......you gotta understand where the history of wonderwoman comes from afterall....she belongs in that mythology of the Spartans.

As for me, I don't dig the gal in the suit....I want someone with some muscle to her! I'll wait and see what else they put in there before I go "Dammit this isn't right."

The only thing I like was the nod to Frank Miller's batman armor.

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Love that bat suit!!

WW needs to eat some sandwiches. She looks pretty but no way looks like an Amazon warrior.

I know, right? I still have no idea what they're smoking, there's no way she knocked it out of the park with her acting skills when she auditioned, and she doesn't have the physique to pull off the look either, IMO.

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I don't think she needs to "eat a sandwhich." That wouldn't help to gain any sort of muscle mass. I did assume that since she's supposed to look like a superhero she would have, at the very least, toned up for the role. A woman doesn't need to be built like a bodybuilde to look strong or powerful. But it appears she didn't even attempt a sort of bikini competition-like physique which would have been at least semi-appropriate.

I will give her credit, she doesn't have twig legs.

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I think she looks fine. I'm not that crazy about superman being as big as he is either. It's supernatural strength so it doesn't really matter how big your muscles are, just be toned.

But that's the trend now. We've found ways to push body building to the max and it just doesn't cut it to be in normal shape anymore. Thor is huge, and wolverine is huge, so superman has to be huger.

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I don't mind the costume but she doesn't look right at all. I mean she looks wrong for the part. Not just the body but the face. And I think she's a pretty girl but nothing about her says Wonder Woman.

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I don't mind the costume but she doesn't look right at all. I mean she looks wrong for the part. Not just the body but the face. And I think she's a pretty girl but nothing about her says Wonder Woman.

It actually looks like she gained a little weight/mass if you compare her to how she appeared in the Fast & Furious movies.

I agree the look, especially in that poster, seems a little off, but maybe they were going for a semi-exotic face and non-American accent (which she has).

Either way, the deed is done.

-b.

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I think the Tiara is throwing her face off. It makes her face to appear longer than it really is. Wonder woman was always going to be a very difficult character to bring to the big screen. More than any male character, she has to appeal to both women and men who are both looking for different things from the same character. I think once we she her in some action, she will then be able to put some of the criticism away.

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I don't get you guys at all. I think that Wonder Woman looks fantastic, and conversely, I don't see how you guys are getting so excited about a dark and blurry trailer of Batman using the Bat-signal to call Superman, even if Batman is armored up with a helmet that has glowing eyes.

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