JB0 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Lol, are now they acknowledging Kawamori's existence? I thought their plan was to rewrite history and make Carl Macek the creator of everything.Don't be silly. Macek was a writer, he didn't do mechanical designs. There's no reason not to give a shoutout to the designer of Robotech's most enduring veritech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Their Hollywood overlords are always watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Beijing Comic Convention. Kawamori and Tenjin are hosting the Macross panel. Harmony Gold is going to China to host their own panel. In China. A country that never had to deal with RT. A country that would rather produce their own big-budget entertainment than import. They even have a law that prohibits over-saturation of foreign entertainment. Where is the logic in RT in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Beijing Comic Convention. Kawamori and Tenjin are hosting the Macross panel. Harmony Gold is going to China to host their own panel. In China. A country that never had to deal with RT. A country that would rather produce their own big-budget entertainment than import. They even have a law that prohibits over-saturation of foreign entertainment. Where is the logic in RT in China? It's probably not going to cost them a ton to go and they're probably pretty desperate at this point and taking longshots. Maybe something they say to someone will lead to some sort of business getting done... I mean, I can't even guess what that business might be, but that's gotta be thinking right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 so can i finally get subs on my blu dyrl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefuemon Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 so can i finally get subs on my blu dyrl? If you don't mind Exedore being called "Brain-man", no problem! That's what my bootleg Macross 7 subs call him. Thank god I have passable Japanese now. Still need subs, but I can tell when they're way off, which is about 1/2 the time on this particular set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I think I'm going to call him Brain-man myself now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 If you don't mind Exedore being called "Brain-man", no problem! That's what my bootleg Macross 7 subs call him. Thank god I have passable Japanese now. Still need subs, but I can tell when they're way off, which is about 1/2 the time on this particular set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big s Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I might have the same bootleg with the Brain Man. Either that or it's a bootleg of a bootleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Two Macross legends and a HACK FRAUD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Two Macross legends and a HACK FRAUD. I knew it. I know that we can get all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Where is the logic in RT in China? I assume that Robotech has a respectable fan base in China, because Harmony Gold has been attending Chinese conventions for a long time. I remember seeing photos from one of these conventions and there was a pretty impressive Robotech display area, much larger than anything I've seen in America. Though, it's possible that many of their "fans" are actually SDF Macross fans who don't take umbrage with Robotech. While I'm glad to see Harmony Gold mentioning Kawamori and Tenjin's names, it's most likely a self-serving manuever to attract more attention to themselves, as evidenced by our discussion of it here. If HG starts promoting Kawamori and co. in shows that they themselves aren't attending, then you can color me impressed. Edited May 27, 2016 by TheLoneWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Though, it's possible that many of their "fans" are actually SDF Macross fans who don't take umbrage with Robotech. Or have never heard of Robotech. While I'm glad to see Harmony Gold mentioning Kawamori and Tenjin's names, it's most likely a self-serving manuever to attract more attention to themselves, as evidenced by our discussion of it here. If HG starts promoting Kawamori and co. in shows that they themselves aren't attending, then you can color me impressed. I would find it hilarious if McKeever was in some way, forced off the panel. But yeah, this is a completely self-serving move for HG. The only reason for HG to be in China is, like everyone else, China is a huge market which would make them more money than in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akt_m Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I would find it hilarious if McKeever was in some way, forced off the panel. This. I want to see this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorindor Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 In China. A country that never had to deal with RT. What are you talking about? Robotech was brought to China decades ago. HG has released several Robotech DVD sets and comics there - some which never even got released in the US. China is undoubtly one of HG's most important markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Yes, they exist. https://www.facebook.com/Rtucn-Robotech-Union-at-China-164776660201259/ If South America taught me anything a couple of years ago, all it takes is a group of naive, talented fans with their hearts in the right place and a certain company ready to exploit them or threaten them with legal action to bring a region up to speed what exactly they've been obsessing about all these years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Hmmmm. So I guess they've yet to experience HG's BS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Hmmmm. So I guess they've yet to experience HG's BS?It's only trivial Purist fanboy umbrage to someone outside the situation until the lawyers start gunning for them. I thought the last few years made that embarassingly clear in this mess.Great Lynn Kyle impression, Kevin. Edited May 28, 2016 by Einherjar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefuemon Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Yeah, so I wonder if a meeting between them will really happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Two Macross legends and a HACK FRAUD. Seeing Mckeever name on the poster alongside Kawamori and tengin is so wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Seeing Mckeever name on the poster alongside Kawamori and tengin is so wrong.I love the titles. "Creator" "Artist" "VP of marketing" One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong. Can you guess which thing is not like the other by the time I- it's the marketing guy that has no creative efforts to show. Tommy Yune is still with HG after the Kickstarter fiasco, right? Put his butt in the chair. He may've been BAD at creative endeavors, but he at least HAD some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Every tweet and FB post both by HG and the convention organizers have all been deleted in the past 24hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 What does HG even have to tweet about? Shadow Rising still coming out. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Deleted? Can we assume that the real Macross people sent them a letter to stop making it sound like Kawamori and Tenjin were going to show up carrying Kevin on their shoulders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyD Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 What does HG even have to tweet about? Shadow Rising still coming out. Stay tuned. I still suspect that HG is nothing more than a tax write off at this point, in which case the convention stuff is to keep up appearances, but who really knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I still suspect that HG is nothing more than a tax write off at this point, in which case the convention stuff is to keep up appearances, but who really knows. Two things, tax write-off and a means of maintaining rights. If they don't keep up appearances they may lose control of their rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pengbuzz Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Two things, tax write-off and a means of maintaining rights. If they don't keep up appearances they may lose control of their rights. I see HG as having been on "life support" for years now, with a death-grip on the rights as their last gasp. They really need to stop existing already, jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Two things, tax write-off and a means of maintaining rights. If they don't keep up appearances they may lose control of their rights. I think Mike Toole unintentionally made that clear recently. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/the-mike-toole-show/2016-04-17/.101177 From as far back as 2013, HG has had nothing to do with anime anymore. All the licenses to other anime they had back in the day? Gone, reverted to the original owners, or not worth talking about these days, the only exceptions being the three shows that make up Robotech. The crew was "extremely passionate and serious" for the franchise in 2013, but then I have to think back to what they actually accomplished with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 So then the question is, who owns HG? Is it wholly owned, or is it publicly traded? If Agama is the sole owner, what happens to the company when he passes? Then once HG is no more, what happens to the ownership, does it revert back to Tatsunoko? Basically, it sounds like HG needs to cease to exist in order for Macross to start officially leaving Japan, and for a live action movie to take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Privately held with his children as established officers... meaning no hope in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Privately held with his children as established officers... meaning no hope in sight. Not necessarily, if they are don't want to take over and someone makes a good enough offer... Also could they be more inclined to make a deal with Bandai and Big West then old dad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorindor Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 So then the question is, who owns HG? Is it wholly owned, or is it publicly traded? If Agama is the sole owner, what happens to the company when he passes? Then once HG is no more, what happens to the ownership, does it revert back to Tatsunoko? Basically, it sounds like HG needs to cease to exist in order for Macross to start officially leaving Japan, and for a live action movie to take place. His children, Jehan and Ahmed Agrama, have already taken over management of the company. I'm pretty sure that they will take over ownership if Frank passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZEOD Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 JDAM time perhaps.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 There's no telling what would happen when he passes but there's also nothing that provides hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzan Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Everyone with a contact with that company is delusional so I harbour no hopes for them ever reaching any kind of agreement. Best hope is being sold outright, license and all to a larger, more competent company that will get something done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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