Chthonic Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Here's another commission piece I had done for the VF-9 Cutlass by EastCoastCannuck- I think this sucker has one of the most difficult transformations I've seen - MORE Renders to come Edited December 30, 2012 by Chthonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'm not very familiar with this valk but your model looks great (particularly in fighter mode... looks like this is one of those designs where battroid is more of an after thought so you didn't have much to work with). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I love the VF-9's transformation because it's so different. While it took a while to figure out exactly how the wings fold, I don't think I ever did get exactly how the big swing-bar that connects the two arms works. Obviously it rotates 90 degrees, but there's more to it than that, to get the arms to be left/right from their front/rear fighter-mode arrangement while still having room for the hips, spine, etc to move to transform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillyche Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Sweet model. Crazy design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I love the VF-9's transformation because it's so different. While it took a while to figure out exactly how the wings fold, I don't think I ever did get exactly how the big swing-bar that connects the two arms works. Obviously it rotates 90 degrees, but there's more to it than that, to get the arms to be left/right from their front/rear fighter-mode arrangement while still having room for the hips, spine, etc to move to transform. Yeah, there’s definitely a lot more than a 90 degrees rotation. I don’t think I can fully see how it works in gerwalk mode. Macross Mecha Manual Great model, Chthonic!!! Looking forward to more renders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Always a fan of ECC's work. This one looks like it worked out pretty well. Look forward to the other renders. I love the VF-9's transformation because it's so different. While it took a while to figure out exactly how the wings fold, I don't think I ever did get exactly how the big swing-bar that connects the two arms works. Obviously it rotates 90 degrees, but there's more to it than that, to get the arms to be left/right from their front/rear fighter-mode arrangement while still having room for the hips, spine, etc to move to transform. Yeah it's a total cannon fodder design. By the time it transforms it would be riddled with bullet holes ... The fighter mode is totally sexy though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 It looks like it's wearing a giant, goofy bow-tie in Battroid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 This would make a great transformable toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 With a battroid mode that ugly... I don't think I'd need it to transform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Great work Chthonic! Yeah the color code transformation guide for this Valkyrie took me a long time to figure out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Here's another commission piece I had done for the VF-9 Cutlass by EastCoastCannuck- I think this sucker has one of the most difficult transformations I've seen - MORE Renders to come This is awesome. Love me some VF-9! Looking forward to some Gerwalk mode shots. I love the VF-9's transformation because it's so different. While it took a while to figure out exactly how the wings fold, I don't think I ever did get exactly how the big swing-bar that connects the two arms works. Obviously it rotates 90 degrees, but there's more to it than that, to get the arms to be left/right from their front/rear fighter-mode arrangement while still having room for the hips, spine, etc to move to transform. I still don't get quite how the wings fold. But I think I have the arms pretty much figured out. It's actually similar to the missile pod for the new YF-30. Great work Chthonic! Yeah the color code transformation guide for this Valkyrie took me a long time to figure out Haha I can imagine Edited December 29, 2012 by Raptor One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Great work. I'm currently working on a high detailed version of the VF-9 and the VF-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodavan Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Nice work , always wanted to do one of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 My favorite VF! Looks great!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthonic Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Great work. I'm currently working on a high detailed version of the VF-9 and the VF-14. NOW you tell me Kawamori-san is a genius though or crazy...... because I couldn't figure to transform this thing - I'm having these models down b/c as fans we deserve them - in the future I will share them with the community- B/C I'm such a nice guy - they made a low cost toy of the VF-9- it was the best examble to go by - BTW GUYS- Ill let you know now- THE VF-14 is the next one he's working on right now- the bad thing about it is- the landing gear. I try to have ECC make them acurate as possible. Edited December 30, 2012 by Chthonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Just check out this scratch built model http://www.fg-site.net/archives/post_old/55774 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 NOW you tell me Kawamori-san is a genius though or crazy...... because I couldn't figure to transform this thing - I'm having these models down b/c as fans we deserve them - in the future I will share them with the community- B/C I'm such a nice guy - they made a low cost toy of the VF-9- it was the best examble to go by - BTW GUYS- Ill let you know now- THE VF-14 is the next one he's working on right now- the bad thing about it is- the landing gear. I try to have ECC make them acurate as possible. Yup, but I don't have much time, so it will take a while. The cool thing about this: I will design it, so it can be 3D printed at shapeways in high frosted detail. Muhahahahahahahahahahah The landing gear of the VF-14 will be crazy to make, as there is no known footage of a VF-14 with landingbay open. Just check out this scratch built model http://www.fg-site.n.../post_old/55774 That is just awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahiachris Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 other scratch built from Japan http://air.ap.teacup.com/tac1991/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I've just realized that my favorite VF designs are the ones that have the "nose cone and cockpit chest" feature: The VF-1, VF-9, VF-11, and YF-21/VF-22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I still don't get quite how the wings fold. But I think I have the arms pretty much figured out. It's actually similar to the missile pod for the new YF-30. IIRC, the "chest plate" you see is actually the *underside* of the wings---see if that helps you figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) ! It looks like it's wearing a giant, goofy bow-tie in Battroid though. Bow-ties are cool! Great work. I'm currently working on a high detailed version of the VF-9 and the VF-14. Woooo, now that I will be looking forward to!!! Particularly the VF-14. Do you have plans to do the VA-14 variant? Edited January 2, 2013 by Zinjo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Bow ties are classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 BTW GUYS- Ill let you know now- THE VF-14 is the next one he's working on right now- the bad thing about it is- the landing gear. I try to have ECC make them acurate as possible. Do you intend a VA-14 variant? Had to ask... Bow ties are classy. Mine's a reference from Doctor Who.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 With a battroid mode that ugly... I don't think I'd need it to transform. I wonder if the transformation was an after thought much like the VF-4 was. He designed a very sexy jet, but then had to create a mecha from those parts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I appreciate the ties to the YF-19 and YF-29...but that is one FUGLY VF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthonic Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 I had ECC do some texture tweeking to make it darker and more realistic - Here's a sneak peak at the VF-14 ECC NEED HELP WITH THE VF-14'S GUNPOD- I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF REFERENCE BUT ECC NEEDS OUR HELP He was having problems with the landing gear surprisingly he based it on the real SR-71, but I wanted it to be accurate as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: VF-14 The landing gear in the image with the gun pod seems more right (the other image has the gear too-far forward of the center of gravity). Nevertheless, they are popping out where the internal missile launchers are. I suggest further up the side (nearer the wing root), and possibly further back: Like the VF-17: http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross7/vf-17d-nightmare/vf-17d-fighter-lineart.gif (VF-17 being the next fighter designed by General Galaxy, there's going to be more than a few similarities) The gun pod isn't the right one. The one that has been scribbled for it is a lot thinner. The best place to find an image for it is in the Macross M3 game opening: https://www.youtube.com/results?hl=ja&q=macross%20m3%20opening&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dGY&bpcl=40096503&biw=1226&bih=762&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=i1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) I can get you a screen cap from the game if you want. Well it sure is a tube. ps the VF-14's dodge roll animation is hilarious. Edited January 3, 2013 by VF5SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) I appreciate the ties to the YF-19 and YF-29...but that is one FUGLY VF. I think the Fighter mode is teh sex, but the Batteroid and Gerwalk look fugly to me. I'm not even sure if another color scheme could fix that for me. Edited January 3, 2013 by Loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) BTW GUYS- Ill let you know now- THE VF-14 is the next one he's working on right now- the bad thing about it is- the landing gear. I try to have ECC make them acurate as possible. This isn't much but I believe this is all there is: Edited January 3, 2013 by Reïvaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) IIRC, the "chest plate" you see is actually the *underside* of the wings---see if that helps you figure it out. Ahh okay, that quote and the scratchbuild linked earlier in the thread have made it a little clearer. I appreciate the ties to the YF-19 and YF-29...but that is one FUGLY VF. I agree that battroid mode isn't great, but I love the VF-9's fighter mode. Brings to mind a variable version of the fan racer. Gerwalk is also one of my favourites. Battroid and Gerwalk do look better in the lineart though. Edited January 3, 2013 by Raptor One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chthonic Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Re: VF-14 The landing gear in the image with the gun pod seems more right (the other image has the gear too-far forward of the center of gravity). Nevertheless, they are popping out where the internal missile launchers are. I suggest further up the side (nearer the wing root), and possibly further back: Like the VF-17: http://www.macross2....ter-lineart.gif (VF-17 being the next fighter designed by General Galaxy, there's going to be more than a few similarities) The gun pod isn't the right one. The one that has been scribbled for it is a lot thinner. The best place to find an image for it is in the Macross M3 game opening: https://www.youtube....F-8&sa=N&tab=i1 We might need someone to sketch it out for him - the crazy thing is where is it kept in fighter mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The information I have is that the gun pod is stored externally. http://sketchleystats.webatu.com/Statistics/VF-14/VF14.php#OFFENSIVE_SYSTEMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HALI38 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 EastCoastCanuck here.. I'm almost done building this model,but I will need decent reference for the right gun its supposed to use.The game snapshot is a start but only gives me its basic overall shape.I thought it might've had the same gun design I was given in the reference material Chthonic gave me.. but looks like I might not be able to use it.Might have to take a lot of liberties and make up my own details otherwise. As for the VF9 it came out pretty well,but its transformations are kinda tricky.The shoulder bar with the arms just clip through the model once I animated the transforms.So they end up either going through the leg/engines or the upper engines no matter how I try to twist those parts around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I don't see how people hate like the GERWALK or battroid modes of the VF-9 so much The GERWALK looks totally menacing, like a bird of prey. I think it is neat how the whole nose props up like that. As for the battroid? It may not be the best, but it is totally better than the skinny, sucked-in gut/out-thrust crotch look of everything from Frontier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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