anime52k8 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Interesting---it seems to open the missile bay doors to act like a Harrier's strakes. I don't recall that on the X-35. The X-35 looked better in general while hovering. I miss the accordion doors on the X-35's lift fan, the door on the F-35 looks like a toilet seat cover. Pre-painted Ace Combat F-15s spotted: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/blog/1305165 Pre-painted Galm 1: awesome 1/144 scale: not so awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'd imagine the accordion doors are less robust and more points of failure what with more hinges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'd imagine the accordion doors are less robust and more points of failure what with more hinges. it was either a weight saving thing or an improved airflow thing, either way it just doesn't look as cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyhauser Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Even their "fixed with stolen designs" 1/32 Flanker has issues after revising, I can't imagine they did that well on their 1/72. Trumpeter is the king of "totally awful intake and canopy shapes despite copious reference". Their 1/32 F-14 is the worst F-14 money can buy, despite being the newest/biggest one around. It looks like a swing-wing F-15... Well, they actually put out a pretty good kit in the 1/72 range. I'll just point you to this thread at ARC; Flankerman generally knows his stuff (I think he's built every version possible of the flanker). http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=254303&st=0&p=2413116&hl=flankerman&fromsearch=1entry2413116 That's not to say that the Hasegawa version is "bad." Both are considered very good models (of different types of flankers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Even their "fixed with stolen designs" 1/32 Flanker has issues after revising, I can't imagine they did that well on their 1/72. Trumpeter is the king of "totally awful intake and canopy shapes despite copious reference". Their 1/32 F-14 is the worst F-14 money can buy, despite being the newest/biggest one around. It looks like a swing-wing F-15... David, what model Flanker do you recommend for accuracy and quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Even their "fixed with stolen designs" 1/32 Flanker has issues after revising, I can't imagine they did that well on their 1/72. Trumpeter is the king of "totally awful intake and canopy shapes despite copious reference". Their 1/32 F-14 is the worst F-14 money can buy, despite being the newest/biggest one around. It looks like a swing-wing F-15... Oh, it can't be that bad... Never mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 While the Global Hawk Block 30 program died, the Navy's Triton just completed its first flight. Amazing that these things have a longer wingspan than a 737. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.D. Ivanov Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Best kit announcement of Shizuoka: http://masterfileblog.jp/images/2013/05/17/hs_hasegawa01.jpg Because making a Su-37 would have totally been too much trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyhauser Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) David, what model Flanker do you recommend for accuracy and quality? Let me take a stab at this topic. It depends what you want. If you just want a flanker, and don't care what kind, the Hasegawa SU-33 kit is probably the best oob... with some possible accuracy issues (spine and canopy shape). Its also the priciest kit and represents a relatively rare sub-version of the aircraft (less than 30 built) If you want a more representative model (SU-27 or 30 or their chinese derivatives) likely the best choice is the Trumpeter kit. Its a little less advanced than Hasegawa (particularly in the cockpit), and has many more smaller issues compared to hasegawa's one or two big issues... its still very good. The next best is (apparently) the airfix kit, which is a bear to build but seen as being very accurate. Alot of people use it for donor parts, There is a zvezda SU-27 kit coming out (or out) that a lot of people are anticipating. I've not heard anything yet however. Edited May 26, 2013 by Noyhauser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah, but the Su-33 is an *awesome* variant. And heck, for a Flanker---30 units is a ton! Half the Flankers out there are 1 or 2 of a kind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 But the Su-35S is an even more Awesome variant. Now that I would buy a kit of immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the white drew carey Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Amazing that these things have a longer wingspan than a 737. Indeed. Whenever the subject of 'drones' comes up, many of my friends are surprised when I tell them how large some of these are. It is a common misconception that a drone is a tiny piece of machinery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Had a chance to see one of these beasts upclose at an airshow recently. Such graceful lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GU-11 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Indeed. Whenever the subject of 'drones' comes up, many of my friends are surprised when I tell them how large some of these are. It is a common misconception that a drone is a tiny piece of machinery. That's doubly true for combat drones, as you'll need it to be big enough to carry all those missiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Actually, those recon drones are larger than the combat ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Another pic from the same airshow. Notice the nozzle positions and the open side weapons bay. Actually, those recon drones are larger than the combat ones. Yeah for massively increased loiter time and recon coverage. Read somewhere that we Aussies only need something like two tritons to cover our entire north coastline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Slightly larger pic of Yellow 13: http://www.amiami.jp/blog/2013/05/shs_02/77.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.D. Ivanov Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 That copper colored frame in front of the cannon really bugs me, I'd have to make that more silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 That caught my eye too---is that correct for either the game or any real Flanker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) That caught my eye too---is that correct for either the game or any real Flanker? In every game as far as I remember it's been a normal bare aluminum finish which in-game barely stands out from the grey of the camo pattern. I've never seen a picture of a flanker with that much orange/yellow on the blast panel. Maybe a little bit around the gunport itself but they're always majority aluminum colored. :edit: Not like it's even a big deal that it's off. I'd want to mask and spray that part with Alclad II anyways so it'll look right regardless of what the kit implies it should look like. Edited May 27, 2013 by anime52k8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GU-11 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Actually, those recon drones are larger than the combat ones. Another pic from the same airshow. Notice the nozzle positions and the open side weapons bay. Yeah for massively increased loiter time and recon coverage. Read somewhere that we Aussies only need something like two tritons to cover our entire north coastline. I've always wondered why those Global Hawks were so big. Now I know. Not like it's even a big deal that it's off. I'd want to mask and spray that part with Alclad II anyways so it'll look right regardless of what the kit implies it should look like. That's what I was thinking. Since it's a model kit, you can paint that part any color you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Don't really need to say which beautiful bird this is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model-Junkie Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Su-35 at Paris Air Show 2013 - she is such a pretty and agile bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 For such a large and heavy fighter, the Flanker series has always impressed me with how agile they are, even without thrust vectoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Su-35 at Paris Air Show 2013 with another new paint scheme? http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-35S/2273615/M/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model-Junkie Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 with another new paint scheme? http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-35S/2273615/M/ The new dark grey paint scheme has grown on me though, I do prefer the original camo schemes more: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-34/2222144/L/&sid=e7a11b5658b0672186f8a7fc6067d084 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 The new dark grey paint scheme has grown on me though, I do prefer the original camo schemes more: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-34/2222144/L/&sid=e7a11b5658b0672186f8a7fc6067d084 the grey camo one is still the sexiest thing ever: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-35BM/1668646/&sid=ac087a82e02f9ca0b28b623d97aa7ffbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Su-35 at Paris Air Show 2013 - she is such a pretty and agile bird <snip> Nimble big bird sure can "dance"... Edited June 18, 2013 by mechaninac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Model-Junkie Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 the grey camo one is still the sexiest thing ever: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-35BM/1668646/&sid=ac087a82e02f9ca0b28b623d97aa7ffbf The winter camo scheme sure is sexy, it looks great on the T-50 too: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Sukhoi_T-50_in_2011_%284%29.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric indigo Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 So is the new dark grey top scheme for the Russian Naval Aviation or is it the general scheme for the Air Force, since the new SU-34s have it, too. Reminds me of the JASDF scheme, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 JASDF's blue on blue camo scheme is my #1 favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 JASDF's blue on blue camo scheme is my #1 favorite. I've never understood what exactly those two shades of blue are actually supposed to camouflage the plane against but it does look cool. It also helps that it goes over a good looking plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 The F-2 is designed for a heavy anti-ship role (the standard F-16 has almost no capability there) so I assume it's "ocean-colored". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antibiotictab Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's "洋上迷彩." Camouflage for aircrafts over the sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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