Astro Plan

[nugundamII]

Im going to do what any self respecting chinese would do

Im going to download the show

copy it

burn it onto a dvd

scan some macross frontier posters stick it on the front cover

and then scan a picture of Gundam Seed and stick it on the back cover

put a BlueRay Sticker on the front

say there are english subtitles when actually its german

and sell it for a buck

then if you want to buy two i give you special price for 1.99

and when it doesnt work i tell you to go fuk yourself

thats what im going to do

Edited January 17, 2010 by nugundamII

[miles316]

Was that a Floating City/Colony ship that has brought them to a new planet to settle being attacked by the aliens.

[Vifam7]

偉大的祖國貨

I am so proud to be a Chinese

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-118989-1-1.html

Can someone please tell me what they're saying? I don't read Chinese.

[Ivan]

Can someone please tell me what they're saying? I don't read Chinese.

A mix of sarcasm and non-stop bashing. People in China are not stupid. They know there is such a thing called Macross Frontier out there. Indeed, I would argue that the criticism of the show by the Chinese themselves can be more harsh than anything on MW.

[Ghost Train]

A mix of sarcasm and non-stop bashing. People in China are not stupid. They know there is such a thing called Macross Frontier out there. Indeed, I would argue that the criticism of the show by the Chinese themselves can be more harsh than anything on MW.

Agreed.

But unfortunately there is still this pervasive colonial attitude inclined towards grouping all Chinese people together as 1 big collective group of copycats, criminals, and generally untrustworthy people. As such, attention in the media is detracted away from the thousands of actual honest and globally competitive corporations run predominantly by Chinese in HK, Singapore, Taiwan, and entrepreneurs in Euro/NA.

The great philosopher Chris Rock explains it best (NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6-Wc0PDc4

(Replace Black with Asian)

A few rotten apples spoil the bunch.

[eugimon]

Agreed.

But unfortunately there is still this pervasive colonial attitude inclined towards grouping all Chinese people together as 1 big collective group of copycats, criminals, and generally untrustworthy people. As such, attention in the media is detracted away from the thousands of actual honest and globally competitive corporations run predominantly by Chinese in HK, Singapore, Taiwan, and entrepreneurs in Euro/NA.

The great philosopher Chris Rock explains it best (NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6-Wc0PDc4

(Replace Black with Asian)

A few rotten apples spoil the bunch.

Im going to do what any self respecting chinese would do

Im going to download the show

copy it

burn it onto a dvd

scan some macross frontier posters stick it on the front cover

and then scan a picture of Gundam Seed and stick it on the back cover

put a BlueRay Sticker on the front

say there are english subtitles when actually its german

and sell it for a buck

then if you want to buy two i give you special price for 1.99

and when it doesnt work i tell you to go fuk yourself

thats what im going to do

[Graham]

Bit late to the party. Just read this thread and watched the two preview clips today. Will try to watch the first episode when I have time.

There is a fine line between being "inspired by" or "paying homage to" something and being a blatant rip-off and Astro Plan clealy is way, way deep into the territory of "blatant rip-off'.

Some of the visual imagery, in the combat scenes, such as the ships defolding, the ships AA fire against the Vajra copies, is almost a direct rip from Frontier.

I've alsked Yamato to check if Big West knows about this. It will be interesting to see their response.

That said, I thought some of the not-VF designs were interesting, that is until I saw the WTF-angel energy wings in not-battroid mode!

Wouldn't miond getting hold of a few of the toys just for shits and giggles. Tried a search on ebay, but couldn't find anything. Anyone know if they are actually out yet?

Graham

[Ivan]

I've alsked Yamato to check if Big West knows about this. It will be interesting to see their response.

Wouldn't miond getting hold of a few of the toys just for shits and giggles. Tried a search on ebay, but couldn't find anything. Anyone know if they are actually out yet?

Graham

The toys are out, just not on Ebay ... yet. Try TaoBao, the Chinese version of Ebay, but I think it's a pain for non-mainland Chinese to use. Else, try visiting major department stores in Shenzhen. I am sure you will find some there.

[VFTF1]

Yawn.

Rip off bootlegs of popular works of entertainment? Wow. I'm shocked.

I for one have nothing against the Chinese, or their bootlegs.

Personally, I don't buy them, don't like them - but not because they are bootlegs. Rather, simply because they suck and originals are better.

Then again - lots of original works also suck.

I dunno... to me this is all a non issue.

The designs on those airplanes look lame, the undercarriage is strange, the characters all look generic, and in the end it's not Macross - so no matter how much it 'copies' Macross Frontier I'm still not gonna care about it.

Finally - after almost 20 years of the internet I think it's safe to say that people who are incompetent enough to buy a bootleg have only themselves to thank.

As for the negative view of Chinese as bootleggers - if such a view persists, it's just resentment since the Chinese also happen to have one of the freest, most prosperous economies on earth and have great food too.

I dunno - negative generalizations always suck.

In any event...as I mentioned in the other Astro Plan thread - this subject gets way too much attention.

Unless this series is seriously funny - there's no point talking about it.

Although - who knows? It could turn out good too (unlikely as that is).

But whatever - does that have anything to do with Macross and our enjoyment of Macross? No.

And will it take away "market share" from Macross --- ??

I honestly doubt it.

If people are dumb enough to buy a product solely on the basis of blurry similarity to a brand product -then you can be sure that no amount of marketing is going to make them appreciate the brand product.

Meanwhile, people who are into Macross will never toss it in favor of bootlegs - I mean - would you ? Come on...

Knock offs and bootlegs are just part of life.

Pete

[MacrossCN]

EP.02

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NTAxMjI4.html

http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%e8%b6%85%e6%b0%...71b2934f0b8.jpg

Edited January 18, 2010 by kresphy

[Graham]

The toys are out, just not on Ebay ... yet. Try TaoBao, the Chinese version of Ebay, but I think it's a pain for non-mainland Chinese to use. Else, try visiting major department stores in Shenzhen. I am sure you will find some there.

I seldom visit Shenzhen. Cost of a visa is too expensive. Probably only go to China once every 2 years

[Funkenstein]

ITS A GUNDAM

[Funkenstein]

Anyone up for generating some comedy fan subs for this series? Might as well take it as seriously as the show itself does

I would gladly help in that endeavor. But only if its a Fan Dub. No point in doing subs.

Edited January 18, 2010 by Funkenstein

[kung flu]

Agreed.

But unfortunately there is still this pervasive colonial attitude inclined towards grouping all Chinese people together as 1 big collective group of copycats, criminals, and generally untrustworthy people. As such, attention in the media is detracted away from the thousands of actual honest and globally competitive corporations run predominantly by Chinese in HK, Singapore, Taiwan, and entrepreneurs in Euro/NA.

The great philosopher Chris Rock explains it best (NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6-Wc0PDc4

(Replace Black with Asian)

A few rotten apples spoil the bunch.

Everytime china does something bad or disgraceful it always relfect badly on chinese people. People tend to forget that the chinese are a divided people, theres mainlanders, hong kongers, over seas and those born in other countries, like myself.

Astro plan is just another long line of rip offs, not a shred of originality or creativity.

[Agent ONE]

I can help HG out with that one!

LOL

Sooo, a tribute to both mospedia AND m7?

[RavenHawk]

What if the creators of Macross are secretly behind this show, using their existing computer animation technology to do the space scenes and vehicles... they hired some Chinese high school kids with no consistent style and some DeviantArt pages to do the most amateurish job of character design and motion animation possible... made sure that the mouth movements and dialog don't even sync up in the original Chinese... then plan to export it to the USA and other Harmony Gold controlled territories on the cheap, so that Harmony Gold can't stop it, and then finally allows Macross Frontier and the new movie to come to those territories, for a small cut, in order to compete with Astro Plan?

Yeah, I know, there's no way... but it's the only thing that makes sense for me for the existence of this show...

[Ghost Train]

What if the creators of Macross are secretly behind this show, using their existing computer animation technology to do the space scenes and vehicles... they hired some Chinese high school kids with no consistent style and some DeviantArt pages to do the most amateurish job of character design and motion animation possible... made sure that the mouth movements and dialog don't even sync up in the original Chinese... then plan to export it to the USA and other Harmony Gold controlled territories on the cheap, so that Harmony Gold can't stop it, and then finally allows Macross Frontier and the new movie to come to those territories, for a small cut, in order to compete with Astro Plan?

Yeah, I know, there's no way... but it's the only thing that makes sense for me for the existence of this show...

And it is discovered that Shoji Kawamori is the 987th Grand Master of the Troll Templar Order (TTO), a sub-faction of the powerful Illuminati who secretly control the political and financial reigns of the global order. The TTO has set into motion its ultimate plan to eradicate the last remaining rebel resistance group - Harmony Gold, which itself is a breakaway faction of the NWO.

The stage has been set for the final battle between good and evil fought in a remote pacific island through the use of transforming combat lawyers. A three way mayhem between HG, the templars, and the "Chinese faction". .... Who will survive?

[QuinJester]

Joking and mockery aside, I still want at least one of these toys so I can have something deliciously bad and swooshable without worrying about breaking something expensive.

Wonder how long it'll take for these to reach ebay.

[miles316]

EP.02

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NTAxMjI4.html

http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%e8%b6%85%e6%b0%...71b2934f0b8.jpg

we have hit originality their has never been a fire fight during FTL flight in any Macross that I know of.

Edited January 19, 2010 by miles316

[QuinJester]

we have hit originality their has never been a fire fight in any Macross that I know of.

Original criticism do not steal!

[Moly_Sigang]

EP.02

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NTAxMjI4.html

http://hiphotos.baidu.com/%e8%b6%85%e6%b0%...71b2934f0b8.jpg

The animation quality of the battle scene is laughably bad. The notVeritechs are animated very stiffly, and most of the time they feel like marionettes being pulled by a string, plus their movements were just sliding across the screen.

Edited January 18, 2010 by Moly_Sigang

[Chronocidal]

And it is discovered that Shoji Kawamori is the 987th Grand Master of the Troll Templar Order (TTO), a sub-faction of the powerful Illuminati who secretly control the political and financial reigns of the global order. The TTO has set into motion its ultimate plan to eradicate the last remaining rebel resistance group - Harmony Gold, which itself is a breakaway faction of the NWO.

The stage has been set for the final battle between good and evil fought in a remote pacific island through the use of transforming combat lawyers. A three way mayhem between HG, the templars, and the "Chinese faction". .... Who will survive?

I think I've seen that battle before. Mr. Rogers won.

[Funkenstein]

I get it now! It was filmed in Garry's Mod!

[taksraven]

The animation quality of the battle scene is laughably bad. The notVeritechs are animated very stiffly, and most of the time they feel like marionettes being pulled by a string, plus their movements were just sliding across the screen.

But I love Thunderbirds.

Taksraven

[Twoducks]

Oh what I wouldn't give to see a pic a Kawamori's face while holding one of those toys!

[miles316]

Original criticism do not steal!

Sorry I forgot to put FTL flight in my post their has never been a Fire fight during Faster than light flight in Macross that I am aware of.

Edited January 19, 2010 by miles316

[BeyondTheGrave]

Oh what I wouldn't give to see a pic a Kawamori's face while holding one of those toys!

Before or after Lead poisoning?

[hutch]

I think this is now my new favorite cartoon.

It's SOOOO bad!!!

[Gubaba]

I'll give it this: the "battle music" is less intolerable than Robotech's.

[areaseven]

Perhaps the RT fans should post a petition to make Astro Plan 9 from Outer Space the next RT title.

[Moly_Sigang]

Perhaps the RT fans should post a petition to make Astro Plan 9 from Outer Space the next RT title.

http://www.robotechx.com/forums/42-other-a...re-we-come.html

PROBLEM WITH THIS ONE IT RUNS TO CLOSE TO BW FRONTIER DESIGNS. AND GUNDAM. WITHOUT PROPER LICENSING FROM THEM HG CAN'T TOUCH

[hulagu]

http://www.robotechx.com/forums/42-other-a...re-we-come.html

One would have thought there were more obvious reasons why it won't (and shouldn't) happen, really.

Edited January 19, 2010 by hulagu

[MacrossCN]

EP.03

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/nnFXBzzloUk

[HappyPenguins]

EP.03

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/nnFXBzzloUk

the ugly character designs bother me too much to sit through a whole ep

[hevangel2]

I can't believe I actually watched two episodes. I can't stop laughing all the way.