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Yeah, its almost as if they (H.G.) believe if they "controll" thier web-site and the people who inhabit it (by fear of banning and other punishments) that they dont need to be able to have an effective P.R./Customer Relations section. Its almost as if they think Robotech.com is their own "Pravda" (sp? ) and what is said there is the only thing to be said.

It is a corporate site owned by HG, promoted by them, the "owners" of Robotech, to be the official center of the franchise, and requires all users to follow all the rules said and unsaid in the TOU. It's been self-serving from the beginning, the problem is fans haven't realize it. It's not a place where fans can really express themselves without HG's, and now the fan mods', consent.

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Yep, Robotech.com is not the Macrossworld of the Robotech universe. Robotech.com is a business, not a fan site, and they pro-actively do whatever they can on the realm they have created to protect their own business interests. Usually one would think this means that they would have a set policy in writing and any time someone broke the rules they would be in trouble. I would have never thought they'd have so much free time (likely the result of everything being in hiatus) that they could actually monitor their users' activity on other forums and then invoke punitive measures based on perceived infractions that had nothing to do with their own written P&Ps.

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Yep, Robotech.com is not the Macrossworld of the Robotech universe. Robotech.com is a business, not a fan site, and they pro-actively do whatever they can on the realm they have created to protect their own business interests.

To drive the point home, take for example the Harmony Gold website. Notice the link on the top right corner of the website. Also, feel free to google the films featured on the top page to get an understanding of what the company has put their name and money on besides Robotech recently.

http://www.harmonygold.com/index.php

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To drive the point home, take for example the Harmony Gold website. Notice the link on the top right corner of the website. Also, feel free to google the films featured on the top page to get an understanding of what the company has put their name and money on besides Robotech recently.

http://www.harmonygold.com/index.php

I actually saw bits and pieces of Shaka Zulu lol. It is definitely one piece that is ripe for remake.....

Heavy amounts of mentally retarded plot to follow:

SHAKA 3000 - TO SPACE AND BEYOND

It will follow the adventurers of a poor fisherman who was enslaved by the evil alien from the Andromeda Galaxy Dr. Tran. One day, he discovers a quadrillion kt mega-ore that would sell for billions of space credits, but yep, Dr. Tran wants it, so Shaka (who happens to be a descendant of the legendary Zulu leader) buries it and escapes where he meets up with a mercenary from the United Star Federation, aka the USF. And yea... the mercenary wants the ore too, so they travel for a few days, kill some bad guys, find the ore and at the last moment the merc betrays Shaka, but not before being wounded himself. In his dying breath he returns the stone to Shaka and helps him escape. Somewhere in between Dr. Tran is speared to death.

He then assembles a team of like minded individuals and travels the galaxy of adventure.

(I can think of the perfect source material to plagiarize it from too!)

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I actually saw bits and pieces of Shaka Zulu lol. It is definitely one piece that is ripe for remake.....

Heavy amounts of mentally retarded plot to follow:

SHAKA 3000 - TO SPACE AND BEYOND

It will follow the adventurers of a poor fisherman who was enslaved by the evil alien from the Andromeda Galaxy Dr. Tran. One day, he discovers a quadrillion kt mega-ore that would sell for billions of space credits, but yep, Dr. Tran wants it, so Shaka (who happens to be a descendant of the legendary Zulu leader) buries it and escapes where he meets up with a mercenary from the United Star Federation, aka the USF. And yea... the mercenary wants the ore too, so they travel for a few days, kill some bad guys, find the ore and at the last moment the merc betrays Shaka, but not before being wounded himself. In his dying breath he returns the stone to Shaka and helps him escape. Somewhere in between Dr. Tran is speared to death.

He then assembles a team of like minded individuals and travels the galaxy of adventure.

(I can think of the perfect source material to plagiarize it from too!)

A Shaka remake is no good, it needs a total ROBOTECH CROSSOVER!!!

Taksraven

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YOU ALL WRONG! RICK HUNTER HAVE BIGGER PENIS SIZE THAN HIKARU ICHIJO! JUST YOU LOOK AT PROOF:

http://floodfilm.com/Rick_Hunter.htm

MEMODOMINION3424234

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Putting the Gay Porn back in Robotech

RickSwimsuit.jpg

oh shi! it's true!

But wait!

A challenger appears!

BreetaiSwimsuit.jpg

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What the hell!?

Those are from the "Swimsuit Spectacular" issue of the Robotech II: the Sentinels comic books published under Eternity/Malibu.

It's a pretty good example of what the character designs were like for the Sentinels comics... the Waltrips clearly didn't have a clue what a normal human body looks like, and weren't too comfortable drawing normally-proportioned people either... so as a result everyone is ultra-buff most of the time, and the women have absurd, almost Leifeld-esque proportions. Of course, since they were also building on the Sentinels character designs, everyone looks like a goddamn idiot too.

(Remember, these are the same people who, in an effort to make Robotech a bit more "mature", turned Minmei into a gutter skank, among other things)

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They turned her into a delicious soda made from slug butt juice?

Nah, it's just the profanity filter here. Try to type the word "slut" and you end up with "slurm."

Y'know, on second thought, Minmei would probably have been a lot more tolerable as a can of soda made from slug secretions than what the Waltrips made her into. It was disturbing enough seeing the character with DD's, but having Edwards shouting about her promiscuity and how bad she was in bed while trying to murder Kyle/Kaifun was just plain unsettling.

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It's a pretty good example of what the character designs were like for the Sentinels comics... the Waltrips clearly didn't have a clue what a normal human body looks like, and weren't too comfortable drawing normally-proportioned people either... so as a result everyone is ultra-buff most of the time, and the women have absurd, almost Leifeld-esque proportions. Of course, since they were also building on the Sentinels character designs, everyone looks like a goddamn idiot too.

AKA, none of these people up to now are Haruhiko Mikimoto and will never be like him. And that's just for character designs.

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AKA, none of these people up to now are Haruhiko Mikimoto and will never be like him. And that's just for character designs.

Actually, it's more like:

"None of these people can even produce a weak imitation of Haruhiko Mikimoto's style... and that makes them even more pathetic than AnimeFriend and StarPro."

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Those are from the "Swimsuit Spectacular" issue of the Robotech II: the Sentinels comic books published under Eternity/Malibu.

It's a pretty good example of what the character designs were like for the Sentinels comics... the Waltrips clearly didn't have a clue what a normal human body looks like, and weren't too comfortable drawing normally-proportioned people either... so as a result everyone is ultra-buff most of the time, and the women have absurd, almost Leifeld-esque proportions. Of course, since they were also building on the Sentinels character designs, everyone looks like a goddamn idiot too.

Sounds like another artist does it not?

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Sounds like another artist does it not?

I gotta hand it to Tommy Yune, though. As uninspired as the Shadow Chronicles character designs are, I rather liked his Masterpiece Collection portraits. They don't look like Mikimoto at all, but the characters are recognizable and well-drawn.

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I gotta hand it to Tommy Yune, though. As uninspired as the Shadow Chronicles character designs are, I rather liked his Masterpiece Collection portraits. They don't look like Mikimoto at all, but the characters are recognizable and well-drawn.

I agree, the masterpiece artwork is good

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I gotta hand it to Tommy Yune, though. As uninspired as the Shadow Chronicles character designs are, I rather liked his Masterpiece Collection portraits. They don't look like Mikimoto at all, but the characters are recognizable and well-drawn.

Unfortunately thats the ONLY good thing that Tommy and Co. have done as of yet.

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I saw this some time ago. I wonder if there are any other name usages going around. HG might want to put a C&D order out on him too, ROFLMAO

I PPUBLISH FOR MAKE BENEFIT MACROSSWORLD:

Dear GayPornoWorld,

Rick Hunter is a registered trademark of Harmony Gold Ltd, and his penis size is intellectual property thereof, the revelation of which is contractually limited to those working on the Robotech Live Action Movie. You are hereby forewarned that you must cease and decist all usage of the name 'Rick Hunter' in the production of gay porn barring the licensing of the name 'Rick Hunter' to GayPornWorld under contract from Harmony Gold. You will find it beneficial to license this name from us. We ask only that you provide us with one of the following:

2 USD frome the sale of every Rick Hunter Gay Porn DVD

or

35 hand signed copies of each consecutive Rick Hunter Gay Porn DVD sent by courier to the offices of Harmony Gold on a bi-montly basis, preferably with klenex gratis.

Sincerely,

Ben D. Over

Attorney At very Large

Representing

Harmony Gold Ltd

THIS LETTER SENT ONE YEAR AGO TO GAYPORNWORLD AND NOW RICK HUNTER OFFICIAL GAY PRODUCT OF HARMONY GOLD. IF GAYPORNOWORLD ACKNOWLEDGE LEGAL RIGHT OF HARMONY GOLD TO ROBOTECH THEN MAYBE SETO CAN ALSO ADMIT HE WRONG? GAYPORNWORLD HAVE LAWYERS AND GAYPORNWORLD USE RICK HUNTER WITH PERMIT.

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Who know the Macross Series Production's sale in other countries ?

None Macross Production in China.

Hongkong and TaiWan have not Macross Production after M7.

What about other countries ?

Not much in Western Europe and North America:

SDFM

Do You Remember Love

Macross II

Macross Plus

Maybe some more productions were released in other countries in South East Asia but this is all I know of.

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I've never seen an episode of Robotech in my life, but I've read through this thread since it seemed interesting. As a neutral viewer who has only watched the original Macross the solution seems pretty simple.

What HG should do is wait for the re-imagined movie to be released, then release a new cartoon that follows from there. Like many people have said on here they most likely won't be able to use anything from the original Macross series, but new fans won't care anyways since they won't know the source material.

This will also allow them to make new toy lines off of the new mecha. At the same time they should label the original show dvds and toys as "Robotech Classic" or something like that to distinguish it from the new series. They could then release a few macross toys and the odd movie once in a while to cater to the original fans and at the same time have the new toy line and a new show for the new fans.

Because as it stands now all they have is a 25 year old show. With no new fans coming in (let's face it, the show has not aged well at all and kids want flashy new stuff) how long can they last? Eventually all the fans will either move on or die off. So all they're doing is thinking of the present not the future.

This would probably not be what the original fans would want but it seems like the most likely option.

In a perfect world they would give BW the rights to the macross brand outside of Japan in exchange for the ability to use a few key elements from the original story, then start the whole series from scratch and overtime change the series to be completely original.

This way both Robotech and Macross could co-exist. Obviously there are a few problems with this, like the difference that you would then have in toy quality between yamato/bandai and toynami, but eventually they would be selling completely different products anyways.

Either way I couldn't care less since I'm Macross fan and can get my toys and series through the internet, but as a neutral it seems stupid that this company is just sitting on their product instead of developing it for the future to ensure they will survive.

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It is a corporate site owned by HG, promoted by them, the "owners" of Robotech, to be the official center of the franchise, and requires all users to follow all the rules said and unsaid in the TOU. It's been self-serving from the beginning, the problem is fans haven't realize it. It's not a place where fans can really express themselves without HG's, and now the fan mods', consent.

I understand agree with that. What I was saying was that the way that the staff caries themselves at times is as if you cant go anywhere else to talk about Robotech or anything related.

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A Shaka remake is no good, it needs a total ROBOTECH CROSSOVER!!!

Taksraven

Oh, but it is. Excerpt from Episode 27:

Shaka, now captain of the Space Homeland International Team aka S.H.I.T. universal exploration adventerous squad slowly recovered consciousness after being knocked out. His ship, the spear, dived unexpectedly into a black hole. Sparks were flying everywhere.

"Status report!" yelled the seasoned warrior.

"Shields are down. Engines are at 50% output. Armo-mode transformation system offline... Captain Shaka we are being hailed." - the engineer replied

"Main screen turn on." Shaka was shocked at the person trasnmitting the message.

An aged gentleman in a neatly pressed military uniform greeted him.

"Hello gentleman, how are you? I am Rick Hunter...."

"NO... U R NOT RICK HUNTER, U R HARUHI SUZUMIYA!"

(dramatic music plays while the TO BE CONTINUE logo flashes across the screen).

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The state of Robotech in one convenient trope:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RunningTheAsylum

Yeah, that article should sting the RT fans and staff a bit. I'm sure it wouldn't to those that live in the happy "Space Bubble", but the reality of that article defines HG's actions for the last 23 yrs, 24 years if you wanna add the original Robotech concept in there. Let's just face it, Robotech is never gonna stand on it's own, and will always be tied to the originals.

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Robotech: Macross Saga is f-ing great. What is Robotech: MS really about? You think its a story about a fighter pilot in a love triangle with two girls? Its really a story about fighter pilot and his struggle with his own homosexuality. And the real ending of the series is when Rick and Breetai fight the Zentradi at the end of Episode 27. Because Rick has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting f-ing force and they are beating the Zentradi. The gays are beating the Zentradi alright. Then its over and the f-ing land. And Breetai been trying to get Rick Hunter the whole time. Finally he has got him. And what are the last f-ing lines they have together? There all hugging and kissing and happy with each other. And Breetai comes up to Rick and says "Microian you can ride my tail anytime!" And what does Rick say?! "No, You can ride mine!"

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Robotech: Macross Saga is f-ing great. What is Robotech: MS really about? You think its a story about a fighter pilot in a love triangle with two girls? Its really a story about fighter pilot and his struggle with his own homosexuality. And the real ending of the series is when Rick and Breetai fight the Zentradi at the end of Episode 27. Because Rick has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting f-ing force and they are beating the Zentradi. The gays are beating the Zentradi alright. Then its over and the f-ing land. And Breetai been trying to get Rick Hunter the whole time. Finally he has got him. And what are the last f-ing lines they have together? There all hugging and kissing and happy with each other. And Breetai comes up to Rick and says "Microian you can ride my tail anytime!" And what does Rick say?! "No, You can ride mine!"

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Robotech: Macross Saga is f-ing great. What is Robotech: MS really about? You think its a story about a fighter pilot in a love triangle with two girls? Its really a story about fighter pilot and his struggle with his own homosexuality. And the real ending of the series is when Rick and Breetai fight the Zentradi at the end of Episode 27. Because Rick has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting f-ing force and they are beating the Zentradi. The gays are beating the Zentradi alright. Then its over and the f-ing land. And Breetai been trying to get Rick Hunter the whole time. Finally he has got him. And what are the last f-ing lines they have together? There all hugging and kissing and happy with each other. And Breetai comes up to Rick and says "Microian you can ride my tail anytime!" And what does Rick say?! "No, You can ride mine!"

A part of the script for the robotech LAM I tell you guys ...

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