EXO Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 During SDCC09, I got a chance to talk to Toynami and they asked me if there would be any interest in a new Vehicle Voltron... my answer was "frakk Yeah!" If and only if it matched or was better quality than the Lion Voltron and had the articulation that the SOCs had today. I loved the Vehicle Voltron as a kid and thought that the more serious tone was a bit more interesting. And while Bandai has been making all the other giant robots I grew up with... (Voltes V, Grendizer, Mazinger Z and Daimos) The only one missing from that line up was Dairugger XV. I also got a look at the new plastic version of the Lion Voltron and thought it was pretty good. While I'm not a big fan of their Robotech/Macross line. I think that they are giving Voltron some justice. Anyone else up for a updated Vehicle Voltron? It was a question in a very informal talk, nothing official... but I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Nah, I just want Media Blasters to put out the damn DVD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Personally I wouldn't buy it, but I'm all for it if it means Drifand is going to buy it and take pictures of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 My reaction would be the same as >EXO<s, but the profanity filter wouldn't let me say it if I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 darn tooting id be in that. love the lion version they did other than yellow lion kinda comes out too easy, but vehicle, with all the various combos modes and super articulation? YEH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hells yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangard Ace Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Will it come with the sword? Only way I'm buying it. My old DX(matchbox) version doesn't have the sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry the lone wolf Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I ove VV! It's like the Toshiro Mifune of giant robots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twoducks Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've always wanted a good representation of one of my favourite robots. So I say "F* yeah". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechuck Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Nope not interested. All I want is Ramrod/Bismarck and preferably not from Toynami. A Bandai SOC would be just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promethuem5 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Having seem my friend's plastic Voltron and planning on nabbing one eventually, God yes!! I would buy Dairugger much faster. I'm pretty sure JoshB at CDX would just about die if a good modern Dairugger was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugundamII Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 If it came in a collectors book format and SOC quality Hell YEAH ! Of course Bandai would jump on the bandwagon first and probably have better engineering in which case I would buy Bandais Come SomeONE MAKE ONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chen Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 You bet, I've been waiting over 20 years for a Dairugger that can, you know, actually move it's legs. I'm not paying Ebay prices for a nice vintage one and I doubt Bandai will make a SOC version of either Golion or Dairugger anytime soon so it's all up to Toynami which actually did a pretty amazing job with Golion/Voltron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammer Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 oh hell yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I wasn't at all impressed with their Lion Voltron. It's the same toy we've had for 20 years, with new joints. If they'd actually done something like improving the basic sculpt of the lions, then it'd have been worth it. Some day, someone will make a red and green lion that don't suck. And a skinnier black lion. It's not that hard, you just have to mold the things out of more than 5 pieces, and utilize a transformation more complex than a gobot. A few folding panels on the flanks would work wonders for green and red lion, to hide where the legs retract into. And have Voltron's shoulders recess into black lion's. It's clear their goal was a "tweaked version of the original" and not an attempt at a truly new, awesome, ultimate edition of the character. It was kind of like Takara's Encore series---the original toy, slightly improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 I actually agree with you David... seeing how toys go from the chunky Monekey to the 1/48 and 1/60 v.2. and the Gakken Mospeada to the Beagle Mospeada, I would love something that took that kind of leap and bounds. but the alternative with these type of combiners is the SOC which to me are too small. I'm glad that the Lion Voltron was kept at that size and contained the articulation that it does. Plus I dont think the SOCs have made that type of advancement that you can compare to Yamato and say... the MP Transformers. They are a lot better but they are closer to Toynami's Voltron than they are to the other companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 With all those connecting vehicle parts being major articulation joints, I'd just be scared as hell of this thing becoming a floppy mess. Plus, how good will the posing options be? Are they gonna compromise the look of the vehicles for the sake of articulation? Or will the articulation suffer for the sake of solid looking vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 With all those connecting vehicle parts being major articulation joints, I'd just be scared as hell of this thing becoming a floppy mess. Plus, how good will the posing options be? Are they gonna compromise the look of the vehicles for the sake of articulation? Or will the articulation suffer for the sake of solid looking vehicles? I'm wondering the same thing. But that was my answer. If you can deliver articulation with the quality close or better than Lion Voltron then I'll be all for it. I really can't answer the questions of how to solve design problems, just put out the criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 The vehicles, if you can even call them that, were dorky looking anyway. If some changes to the original designs are necessary to accomodate articulation, then I'm sure those wacky engineers will figure out a good compromise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Good lord, yes! I have been waiting for Bandai to make one for the last 5 years. Being controvercial for a second a toynami one would be great as it'd be much bigger and cheaper than a SOC. I don't care if all the vehicles are clunky and retro - that's the charm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baronv Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 |Yes, if the price was right. I'd imagine it to be a hefty price though with all the multiple vehicles and connecting parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigkid24 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I have the old matchbox one...just missing the red ship that goes in front and a bootleg set but I would still buy a Dairugger XV. But I would only shell out for the cheaper plastic version of it. I don't want him so badly that I'm willing to pay MPC prices of $150 for him. And yes he would need some articulation at the hips, knees, elbows, and wrist at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF Strike Valk Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I'm down for one...even with moderate articulation. I'd be happy with something a bit more modern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chen Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) I wasn't at all impressed with their Lion Voltron. It's the same toy we've had for 20 years, with new joints. If they'd actually done something like improving the basic sculpt of the lions, then it'd have been worth it. Some day, someone will make a red and green lion that don't suck. And a skinnier black lion. It's not that hard, you just have to mold the things out of more than 5 pieces, and utilize a transformation more complex than a gobot. A few folding panels on the flanks would work wonders for green and red lion, to hide where the legs retract into. And have Voltron's shoulders recess into black lion's. It's clear their goal was a "tweaked version of the original" and not an attempt at a truly new, awesome, ultimate edition of the character. It was kind of like Takara's Encore series---the original toy, slightly improved. I think Toynami did the best job they could for such a small company, I agree that the basic transformation is the same as the old Bandai one but it's also Anime accurate. I do think if say it was a SOC version Bandai would have designed the legs to be hidden by either folding them in or have optional covers. As for the Red and Green lions their basically limited by their purpose of being arms, I could see having optional smaller heads and actual necks but all these would have added to the price and complexity, which at the time a over 12" tall diecast figure that combines for a $140 bucks isn't bad. It's not perfect but it is way better than the old Godaikin one by leaps and bounds. I love my old Voltron but compared to the new one, there is no comparison. Edited July 31, 2009 by chen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chen Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I actually agree with you David... seeing how toys go from the chunky Monekey to the 1/48 and 1/60 v.2. and the Gakken Mospeada to the Beagle Mospeada, I would love something that took that kind of leap and bounds. but the alternative with these type of combiners is the SOC which to me are too small. I'm glad that the Lion Voltron was kept at that size and contained the articulation that it does. Plus I dont think the SOCs have made that type of advancement that you can compare to Yamato and say... the MP Transformers. They are a lot better but they are closer to Toynami's Voltron than they are to the other companies. I have to respectfully disagree, to say something like the old Godaikin Com-Battler to a SOC Com-Battler isn't the same as a 1/55 to a 1/60 is wrong IMHO. I agree that some of the SOC's weren't a massive leap compared to the old originals like Iron Gear but most were light years ahead. We actually had a thread like this comparing the old with the new at a board I Admin at and seeing the actual figures side by side you can just see how far 25+ years of toy engineering. http://robotjapan.proboards.com/index.cgi?...mp;thread=14692 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excillon Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 During SDCC09, I got a chance to talk to Toynami and they asked me if there would be any interest in a new Vehicle Voltron... my answer was "fart Yeah!" If and only if it matched or was better quality than the Lion Voltron and had the articulation that the SOCs had today. I loved the Vehicle Voltron as a kid and thought that the more serious tone was a bit more interesting. And while Bandai has been making all the other giant robots I grew up with... (Voltes V, Grendizer, Mazinger Z and Daimos) The only one missing from that line up was Dairugger XV. I also got a look at the new plastic version of the Lion Voltron and thought it was pretty good. While I'm not a big fan of their Robotech/Macross line. I think that they are giving Voltron some justice. Anyone else up for a updated Vehicle Voltron? It was a question in a very informal talk, nothing official... but I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way I did. HELL YES. I've always loved Dairugger/Vehicle voltron, even as a kid I liked it more than Golion. I have a pristine Matchbox set, and it's one of the crown jewels of my collection, and another one that's in good shape loose I can play with. I've always wondered why we can't get an articulated high quality version of one of the coolest robots, and IMO the coolest combiner of all time. The plastic Voltron does rock, I like it more than my MP Voltron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Pretty cool!, although Lion Voltron is the only one i cared for, and top of the list super robots i grew up with still and always will be Mazinger Z. If i had any money after Macross it would be MAzZ, always wanted to get an updated Lion Voltron though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 At SDCC there was a Titanium/Carbon Fiber Mazinger in the Toynami booth... very cool. From Bandai of course. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden Japan Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hey EXO, how about I design something like this with more modern and updated style. I think I can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Looks good but it looks like it'll be limited articulation on the knees and feet which are really important to get those "I just cut the monster in half poses". haha. The glowing blades are cool. Maybe that would be a good accessory, make them out of tranclucent blue then have an LED light come out of the hands, like the HOT TOYS Iron Man. If it was in scale would it be bigger than Lion Voltron? It's funny because the feet look like SUVs but they actually the size of those giant constuction vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excillon Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Hey EXO, how about I design something like this with more modern and updated style. I think I can do it. Dude that rocks...your Optimus was impressive, but if you built that you'd be a LEGEND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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