RedWolf Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) This thread is for the discussion of exclusive Macross II timeline non-Studio Nue mecha and technology. Meaning from Do You Remember Love up to Macross II Lovers Again. As you can see some of them still needs to have names on them. Anyway I need sleep I'll add what I can tomorrow. Zzzzzzz~ Zentradi/Meltrandi Meltrandi Queadluun-Nona Ships Laplamiz Class Mobile Fortress Zentradi Queadluun-Quiltra Queadluun-Shignomyulu Ex-Glaug, Giloza-Fle, Shellcair Gar, Rogran-Rau Manzanip Laa Ships Gorg Bodolzaa Class Mobile Fortress Glo-Vaiza Okti-Granduura Nupetiet-Vergnitzs-Class Fleet Command Battleship UN SPACY Ships Daedalus II Prometheus II Gloria Heracles Corvette Frigate Rescue Ship SDF-1 Macross Macross Cannon Valkyries VF-1 Valkyrie VE-1 ELINT Seeker VT-1 Super Ostrich VF-1 Kai (Custom) fighter mode gerwalk mode VF-1AR VF-1JR VF-1SR VF-X-4 Siren VF-XX Zentradian VF-2SS Valkyrie II VF-2JA Icarus VA-1SS (Demonstration version: Metal Siren Replica) VA-1SS Metal Siren (Armed version) Destroids etc AGA-1JF Defender EX Giant Monster Phalanx Custom Tomahawk II Civilian VC-079 Civilian Valkyrie (SNN Valkyrie) Mardook Ships Mardook Fleet Carrier Mothership Mardook Fleet Flagship Mardook Grabber (battleship) Mardook Large Battleship Medium-sized Battleship Mardook Scout Ship mecha Mardook Zentradi Battle Pod Mardook Zentradi Commander Type Battle Pod Mardook Meltrandi Power Suit Mardook Zentradi Power Suit Mardook Variable Fighter/Powered Armor Gigamesh Soldier Type Feff Custom Edited May 7, 2009 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 For some reason the VF-2SS just doesn't look like a plausible aircraft to me-- and doesn't fit together with canon VFs for that reason. It works ok as a standalone mecha though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginrai Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline? As far I know no. That goes the same for the famisoft games. The ones with the Stampede and Star Crusader. 2036 and ELS were released around the same time as Macross II and according to some materials directly related to Macross II. So the timeline is DYRL-2036-ELS-II Lovers Again. Not to mention there is a game shout out in OVA with the arcade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline? I don't think so. IIRC, the storyline in the game's booklet only referenced DYRL. But honestly, the booklet's story was so lacking in details that it was obviously just an attempt to cash in on the Macross name, whoever came up with it wasn't trying to contribute any new plot points to the timeline, so I consider SV to be in its own isolated timeline. Edited May 6, 2009 by TheLoneWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline? No. It doesn't. The core of the Macross alternate universe timeline consists of... Macross: Do You Remember Love? Macross 2036: the Neld Fleet Incident (VG) Macross: Eternal Love Song (VG) Macross II: Lovers Again The various cinematics (particularly the opening) from the DYRL videogame is also applicable to the continuity, as are the five Macross II novels, and occasionally the manga adaptation, though not the unofficial side story "The Micron Conspiracy". RedWolf, just one naming correction for the moment... When the OVA first came out, the Metal Siren didn't have an official designation. The artbooks just refer to it as "Metal Siren" and the moon festival version as "Metal Siren Replica" (well, the engrish actually says "Metal Siren Leplica"). It was Palladium Books who came up with "VF-1MS" as a designation for it, and then proceeded to mix that up with a few various typos like "VF-MS" in their books. A while back, the official Macross website (Macross.co.jp) gave the Metal Siren a designation... "VA-1SS". That designation has since been repeatedly confirmed in the pages of Macross Chronicle. Edited May 6, 2009 by Seto Kaiba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 I'll edit it now. Anything else I need to change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexx Stalker Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) I'll edit it now. Anything else I need to change? Macross II mecha should be by Studio Nue, just not designed by Kawamori. Edited May 6, 2009 by Nexx Stalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Macross II mecha should be by Studio Nue, just not designed by Kawamori. MacII wasn't done by Studio Nue. It was done by AIC and ONIRO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexx Stalker Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 MacII wasn't done by Studio Nue. It was done by AIC and ONIRO Shame on me! I always thought Studio nue was involved ('must have dreamed seeing their classic sign on some lineart). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinger Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Is there any way to confirm the Macross 2036 Zentradi mecha names? I was reading through Yoshi's Macross 2036 history and the MAHQ website. MAHQ looks likey they have misnamed some of the mecha. Queadluun-Quiltra or Queadluun-Shignomyulu or Shigunomyu (Snakes on shoulders mecha or queadluun-rau like mecha?) Rogran-Rau or Shellcair Gar? (queadluun-rau with shoulder antennae) Shellcair Gar or Shrugeru Gau or Rogran-Rau or Fugrom-Tau (looks like a nousjadeul-ger with shoulder cannons) Migg-Pit = Manzanip Laa ? I'm updating a Macross Picture collection for iMacross4. It's a happy coincidence that so many people are looking into Macross 2036, too. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Is there any way to confirm the Macross 2036 Zentradi mecha names? I was reading through Yoshi's Macross 2036 history and the MAHQ website. MAHQ looks likey they have misnamed some of the mecha. Yeah, there is... there's a lot of corrections yet to be made. I've got the game manuals for Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song on hand, they're being translated as part of my website project (a Compendium for the alternate universe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Would this game count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinger Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I think that game is Macross: Remember me. In the pictures I have of the manual, there is the SDF DYRL ship, different characters and 4 new mecha. I wonder if it's a continuation of DYRL as well? Characters: Mecha: QF-91E Starfighter SDP-1 Stampede Valkyrie SDR-04 Mk-XV Maverick VF-3VF-X3 Star Crusader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Would this game count? Nope, not part of the alternate continuity... just one of the double handful of DYRL-based non-canon side stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross007 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Nope, not part of the alternate continuity... just one of the double handful of DYRL-based non-canon side stories. What a waste of beautiful mecha designs if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 What a waste of beautiful mecha designs if you ask me. Well even VO is an AU. If I remember right Love Stories, Skull Leader and Remember Me trilogy are galge (dating sims) with normal playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinger Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 From looking at the few picures I have of the game manuals; Love Stories, Skull Leader and Remember Me look like they even use the same characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannouHeiki Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 thanks for these tech themed threads redwolf. I may not have a lot to say but I love lurking the thread and looking at all the pretty pictures.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) From looking at the few picures I have of the game manuals; Love Stories, Skull Leader and Remember Me look like they even use the same characters. Well, most of those games did have character designs by Haruhiko Mikimoto... so it's not surprising that they look similar. Haruhiko Mikimoto snuck a few Macross II-isms into Macross 7 Trash too... the "Historical District" of City-7 has a lot of the monuments from Culture Park, and the U.N. Spacy flightsuit is virtually identical to the version used in the alternate universe PC Engine games,just with the metal forearm and shin guards removed. I kinda think this tech-themed thread might be a little premature, since there's very little information available for the mecha of the alternate universe... a problem I'm working to solve... but since I appear to be the only one left who's working on this particular corner of the Macross universe, it's kind of slow going. T_T Edited May 7, 2009 by Seto Kaiba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 That's ok Seto Kaiba, it's only a matter of time before this thread devolves into a mess over how much Macross II sucks and how Macross II should be imbedded into the Kawamori timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinger Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Before that happens, I'll post up some game screen pictures of mecha from the Banpresto Macross II arcade game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Before that happens, I'll post up some game screen pictures of mecha from the Banpresto Macross II arcade game. Well, that's great and all, but has anyone noticed that Macross II sucks? And I think they should incorporate it into the Kawamori timelime. That would totally rock, and I don't think anyone's mentioned it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I kinda think this tech-themed thread might be a little premature, since there's very little information available for the mecha of the alternate universe... a problem I'm working to solve... but since I appear to be the only one left who's working on this particular corner of the Macross universe, it's kind of slow going. T_T Do what you can. That's all anyone can ask of our volunteer work for the Macross fandom. And know that we do appreciate your efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 This thread is for the discussion of exclusive Macross II timeline non-Studio Nue mecha and technology. Meaning from Do You Remember Love up to Macross II Lovers Again. As you can see some of them still needs to have names on them. Anyway I need sleep I'll add what I can tomorrow. Zzzzzzz~ Zentradi Ex-Glaug, Giloza-Fle, Shellcair Gar, Rogran-Rau What book is this line art from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 What book is this line art from? ELS game booklet I believe. Got most of the scans and game screens here. http://archive-scans.blogspot.com/2009/05/...cross-post.html Just over the 2036 Neld Fleet Incident and Eternal Love Song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) What book is this line art from? The first and third images are from the Macross: Eternal Love Song game manual. The second image is from the Macross 2036: the Neld Fleet Incident game manual. They're the new models of power armor used by the Burado and Neld fleets respectively. There's precious little art in the game manuals... which is why I'm waiting to hear back from the developers on my request for production art from the games. Edited May 8, 2009 by Seto Kaiba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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