Hikuro Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Well, I just got home from work and opened up the box for Luca. I think I got one of the truly bad ones. I immediately saw that mine had 4 shades of green. The nose/cockpit area and main backplate were the brightest shade of green. The two wing root pieces connected to the backplate are a different slightly less bright shade of green. The wings, chest and shield were a grayish green. Finally, the back part of the legs were a touch more green than the the shield. Also, the left side LERX paint came pre-chipped in two areas, and the ELINT antenna is bent a bit at the tip. That's what I saw within the first minute of holding it. I'll update here when I have time to mess with it more. On an higher note, the radome is fun to spin and spins very well. smile.gif I'd say take it back. Anytime I've had a really bad toy I've taken it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I'd say take it back. Anytime I've had a really bad toy I've taken it back. I would if I could, but I live in the US and it was shipped to me overseas from Overdrive. It would cost me another $30-40 just to send it back. Anyway, here are some other findings. I experimented viewing it under different lights. Under normal incandescent lights of soft white variety, it looks as I described. Under fluorescent bulbs of 3500k color temperature or lower, it also looks as I described. Under fluorescent lights of 5500k color temp (closer to daylight), the colors magically become much more similar. More like the best case scenario pics seen so far on the net. I'll post pics after I take some to show the difference. Edit: Just to clarify. I don't really mean I can't ship it back. Just that I'd be out $70-80 in shipping with it being shipped here and then shipping it back just to have nothing in the end. Here are some comparison pics. I don't think anyone has shown the same toy under different lighting yet so maybe this will help. The camera actually still caught more difference even in the 5500k color temp lighting, but it still looks improved over other lights. These pics were taken with no white balancing, contrast adjustments, or any other edits other than resizing. 3500k lighting 5500k lighting Edited April 2, 2009 by MacrossJunkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I foresee these sitting on store shelves once word gets around enough. -Kyp Edited April 2, 2009 by Kyp Durron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Okay wow wow wow, I missed something, looked back and couldn't really find it, WHERE are these super parts at? They were on preorder from OverDrive or ToykoHunter. Save has a few in the For Sale section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Picked up two RVF-25 DX from my usual Bandai supplier last night. I took them out of the box and examined them in the shop under the shop's flourescent lighting, but couldn't really detect much noticable color difference with the green plastic. Haven't had time to take them out of the box at home and examine them yet though. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Is it me or does MacrossJunkie's Luca VF-25 have legs that stick up a bit more in fighter mode? Maybe its just the camera angle? I don't know it looks a little better than photos I've seen of Alto or Ozma DXs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd77 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Is it me or does MacrossJunkie's Luca VF-25 have legs that stick up a bit more in fighter mode? Maybe its just the camera angle? I don't know it looks a little better than photos I've seen of Alto or Ozma DXs. I believe someone posted a few pages back a trick to do this - something about not fully inserting the peg on the wings or somethings. The side effect is that the legs will touch the floor when grounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Is it me or does MacrossJunkie's Luca VF-25 have legs that stick up a bit more in fighter mode? Maybe its just the camera angle? I don't know it looks a little better than photos I've seen of Alto or Ozma DXs. I had pushed it up more because I couldn't stand it being so low. More observations: Shoulders are much tighter than my 25G. Left foot guard is really loose and just flops down. It won't stay up. I'll have to inject some glue or nail polish to get it to stay better. Unless I'm not doing something right, I can't actually fold the wings back as far as you're supposed to in battroid because the radome gets in the way. Crotch lock is still pretty good on this one. Legs feel a bit tighter than my 25G. Head antennae seem pretty straight and evenly shaped despite being made of pvc. Hip armor seems even tighter than my 25G which was pretty good already. Crotch armor stays on pretty good like my 25G as well. There's an even greater gap between the shield and arm to make room for the ELINT Antenna. The shield is pretty loose on the arm and have had it fall off a couple times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 And finally some pics of the same toy with the super packs attached. It definitely looks better with the packs on to both hide miscolored areas and to break up the colors so that the mismatching greens are not directly adjacent to each other. Even under normal lighting, the difference in greens seems much smaller and definitely tolerable with the super packs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 hate to say it, cause I'm red and green color blind......but I don't really see much of any change in shades of green on there....it all kind of looks the same. Maybe it's good lighting for those pictures? I dunno, besides the bent antenna and the double 004 shoulders, it doesn't look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermute Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 One thing that I noticed last night on my 25G is that the outer piece of the left leg that lifts out for the stabilizer with the unit number on it (I'm sure that there's a more technical name for them, but I don't know what it is) doesn't click together at the bottom of the shin. The right one does, however, and stays together very nicely. Has anyone else experienced this on a DX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I suspect this whole color difference thing is something which is much more visible in photos and not so much with the naked eye. Unless I was lucky, I certainly couldn't see much (if any) difference with my two. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd77 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 And finally some pics of the same toy with the super packs attached. It definitely looks better with the packs on to both hide miscolored areas and to break up the colors so that the mismatching greens are not directly adjacent to each other. Even under normal lighting, the difference in greens seems much smaller and definitely tolerable with the super packs on. That looks really good. Thanks for the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAND CANNON Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Alto's Super Parts spread: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/type97/20090331 Ozma's Super Parts spread: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/type97/20090401 Edited April 2, 2009 by GRAND CANNON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSJ23 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ozma's Super Parts spread: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/type97/20090401 Come on over-drive ship my Ozma super parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd77 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Alto's Super Parts spread: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/type97/20090331 Ozma's Super Parts spread: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/type97/20090401 Wow, the Ozma one looks especially good. Love the yellow bits on that one. It should look even better with the neck improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Does anyone else get a kind of sick joy from dismantling their toys to see how they tick? When I observed my Alto was starting to get a bit loose in the hip lock I just ripped apart the entire groin assembly to see what was inside. For those who would want to alter the lock to include a locking bar it would be devilishly easy to cut out a bit of the T-bar to make a "hook" and thread a nice heavy gauge brass rod through the inside of the groin. There's a bit of flexibility in the lock so that it could be locked into position by pulling the hip part down once its in, and then released by pushing up on it again when you want to release it. If a Super Armor Alto gets announced I'll order that one and use this as my modification testbed I'm tempted now to continue dismantling it to see how much I can get apart. If it's easy to get to the waist joint I might look into installing a heavy spring to put some tension there and make it a bit tighter. Edited April 2, 2009 by QuinJester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Wow, the Ozma one looks especially good. Love the yellow bits on that one. It should look even better with the neck improvements. Heh, so many people position the missile pods incorrectly. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sorry to nitpick but Bandai's forgetting to tampo print certain areas of Alto's Super Packs. Both missile pods have the triangles printed. In the link above one of them are missing. http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthre...%3D1&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sil80jdm Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sorry to nitpick but Bandai's forgetting to tampo print certain areas of Alto's Super Packs. Both missile pods have the triangles printed. In the link above one of them are missing. http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthre...%3D1&page=2 Man, your right, i hope mine comes in ok.. Hopefully this is an individual case =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd77 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sorry to nitpick but Bandai's forgetting to tampo print certain areas of Alto's Super Packs. Both missile pods have the triangles printed. In the link above one of them are missing. http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthre...%3D1&page=2 Good catch on that one. Really sloppy on Bandai's part, considering that it's a web exclusive item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negotiator Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 My 25g contribution: Flip the sniper rifle around and attach the connector thingy. Wedge the connector between the wrists. You can't 'whoosh' around with it like that, but it does the job for display without mutilating anything. Also a few layers of super glue(with the brush applicator) on the thigh armor attach points have helped it stay nice and snug. And please, attach it when it's dry...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpchi Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Does anyone else get a kind of sick joy from dismantling their toys to see how they tick? When I observed my Alto was starting to get a bit loose in the hip lock I just ripped apart the entire groin assembly to see what was inside. For those who would want to alter the lock to include a locking bar it would be devilishly easy to cut out a bit of the T-bar to make a "hook" and thread a nice heavy gauge brass rod through the inside of the groin. There's a bit of flexibility in the lock so that it could be locked into position by pulling the hip part down once its in, and then released by pushing up on it again when you want to release it. If a Super Armor Alto gets announced I'll order that one and use this as my modification testbed I'm tempted now to continue dismantling it to see how much I can get apart. If it's easy to get to the waist joint I might look into installing a heavy spring to put some tension there and make it a bit tighter. Don't get sick joy per se, but feel some accomplishment when I was able to tighten the diecast left crotch hinge, with the entire crotch block taken apart, as well as tightening the left hip ball joint. You might be surprised on what made it work. Dental floss and clear food wrap. But some areas are really hard to take apart, as the screw hole covers are very tight and flushed. Won't be able to get those suckers out unless you scratch and pry them open and damage the plastic. Edited April 2, 2009 by mpchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I wonder what's the deal with anime man-boys with the Lancia Delta? Frontier has it and so does OO Gundam. Maybe it's because the Lancia Delta Integrale is a bad-arse car? My VF-25G and RVF-25 should be here by the end of the week. I hope they don't suck Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd77 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Maybe it's because the Lancia Delta Integrale is a bad-arse car? No need to tell me that. Just wished they'd use something less, um, famous? Maybe a Stratos since the Gundam character shares the same name anyway but hey, that's for another thread. Sorry for the derailment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 No need to tell me that. Just wished they'd use something less, um, famous? Maybe a Stratos since the Gundam character shares the same name anyway but hey, that's for another thread. Sorry for the derailment. I'm pretty sure there's been other animes with the Stratos. And of course, there's the uber-sexy Alpine A310 in Evangelion. The Japanese sure love their old school rally cars Not that there is anything wrong with that! Anyhoo, how about that multi-colored plastic? Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb_f1 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I suspect this whole color difference thing is something which is much more visible in photos and not so much with the naked eye. Unless I was lucky, I certainly couldn't see much (if any) difference with my two. Graham. Got my RVF, agreed that it's not as bad as shown in the pics, hardly can see the different. Only problem so far is the sms logo and my RVF can smell very strong paint smell when taken out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin3060 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Missing black paint on two RVF-25 from SGCollection forums: That is one unlucky collector. Edited April 2, 2009 by edwin3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Got my RVF, agreed that it's not as bad as shown in the pics, hardly can see the different. Only problem so far is the sms logo and my RVF can smell very strong paint smell when taken out of the box. That smell is normal though. Most toys I open up have that. I like the smell. Technically constitutes a form of substance abuse though That's the only reason I go into gashapon shops in Akiba......duuuude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb_f1 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 That smell is normal though. Most toys I open up have that. I like the smell. Technically constitutes a form of substance abuse though That's the only reason I go into gashapon shops in Akiba......duuuude. Maybe coz it's carton fresh, whereas my VF-25G is not, that's y no smell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermute Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) Maybe coz it's carton fresh, whereas my VF-25G is not, that's y no smell My 25G smells great. New valk smell. Someone will try to bottle it, like they did with new car smell, and they'll fail. The sad thing is that this is my first "real" valk toy, for which I paid a handsome sum. Already, though, I'm like, this guy needs an ally or an enemy, and the VF-11B and the 1/60 v2 VF-1D are in my sights... Edited April 2, 2009 by wintermute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Love my VF-25G. Even though it's 1/60, but when compare to the 1/60 line of Yamato's, it's still a bit smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Got my RVF, agreed that it's not as bad as shown in the pics, hardly can see the different. Only problem so far is the sms logo and my RVF can smell very strong paint smell when taken out of the box. You guys must have gotten good ones then. There was a post a few pages back about how a guy looked at 3 RVFs and how they had color variations compared to each other where one was not so noticable and the other was. I swear to God that mine looks pretty much like my pics. I immediately saw the color differences when I took it out of the box long before I took any pics and the difference was quite stark in contrast. If anyone wants to trade their hardly-detectable-color-difference Luca with mine, I'd be happy to trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly4victory Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Not willing to trade but I am happy that the only stand out-color difference on mine is the shield. Everything else looks good...thankfully I have all the black stripes. Don't know about the shoulder markings yet. For my first 1/60 VF-25 the RVF is very nice and WOW is that a box of stuff considering that the stand and armor are included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvestri Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 One thing that I noticed last night on my 25G is that the outer piece of the left leg that lifts out for the stabilizer with the unit number on it (I'm sure that there's a more technical name for them, but I don't know what it is) doesn't click together at the bottom of the shin. The right one does, however, and stays together very nicely. Has anyone else experienced this on a DX? Yep, I have that problem. Also, the hip connector is very loose.. gotta find a way to tighten that so his torso doesn't flop back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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