Valkyrie addict Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) Hello, well, since HWR MKII is bringing this part of the board back to live with something other than the VF-25, I'd thought I'll add a little something of my own, I think there's never been a build up of one of this wave kits, this kit has been sitting taking dust for a long time alongside the 1/72 VF-17S, I put off building this kit since it's vinyl (never work on it before), and I don't like this valk at all, I just got it at a bargain price bundled with the VF-17S on ebayI will use this kit to get the most experience working on vinyl before building the VF-17S, anyway, first time building a vinyl kit, did my research, doesn't seem too hard, biggest pain it's cutting the pieces of their big vinyl chunk base and then sanding them, kinda annoying, even after heating it up is not as easy as some people say it is, hehehe, well, here we goboxpartsmore parts, very few stickers and metal hands...well, this is all I got done for today, maybe will do more tommorrowI really don't have any love for the 19Kai, I will try to see if I can mod it to be a VF-19S, I was checking the lineart and pics of the wave 19s and the only differences are the head, wings and gunpod, so I'll see what I can do, if it turns out to be too hard, It'll finish it off as a 19kai Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I have this very same kit. Actually I have 2 of them, along with 4 of the Vf17 ones and the blue vf19 that Wave did. is a nicely made kit, and shares most of the of parts with the blue 19. to cut the parts off I use the sharp plastic scissors, that have a slight curve on them, Tamiya do some IIRC. they are uber sharp and stay sharp for years. Vinyl is not that bad to work with. I have built a few kits made from it. Super glue is best to glue bits together, two part epoxy also works. You can add filler to it and even car body filler. I tend to paint mine with a base coat of rattle can auto paint primer and then add the air brushed paints of choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool8or Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Great, I have this kit also... I think the building should be quicker than a plastic model, I'll be watching your progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWR MKII Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i did a build up of this kit a few years back. it goes together well just check alot before you cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excillon Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Lucky...I always wanted one of those kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWR MKII Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Its not that bad of a kit overall. It certainly holds true to the line art to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valk009 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Got the same kit and the first edition, which only differ in having metal hands! Working with vinyl is pretty straight forward, a good advise is to use new sharp blades and by soaking the part to be trimmed in warm water first, this makes things much easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sh002 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 sorry to post here but does anyone know how to straighten out a vinyl piece that has curled? it came like that when i opened the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valk009 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 "sorry to post here but does anyone know how to straighten out a vinyl piece that has curled? it came like that when i opened the box.", try soaking the part in warm to hot water and a minute or two, take it out and remold it and then dip it in cold water to harden, repeat if necessary! Also, another good hint or advise in building the VF-19 vinyl kit is to weigh down the feet and lower legs by filling it with plaster or else the completed kit might have difficulties standing on its own without support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 "sorry to post here but does anyone know how to straighten out a vinyl piece that has curled? it came like that when i opened the box.", try soaking the part in warm to hot water and a minute or two, take it out and remold it and then dip it in cold water to harden, repeat if necessary! Also, another good hint or advise in building the VF-19 vinyl kit is to weigh down the feet and lower legs by filling it with plaster or else the completed kit might have difficulties standing on its own without support! Yes they are a bit top heavy the Kai with sound booster is even worse. Plaster of Paris is the cheap and easy way to weight down the lower limb sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroRay Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Wow - what a nice, interesting looking build! Is it articulated? I'll be eagerly watching it go together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebangoh87 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 "sorry to post here but does anyone know how to straighten out a vinyl piece that has curled? it came like that when i opened the box.", try soaking the part in warm to hot water and a minute or two, take it out and remold it and then dip it in cold water to harden, repeat if necessary! Also, another good hint or advise in building the VF-19 vinyl kit is to weigh down the feet and lower legs by filling it with plaster or else the completed kit might have difficulties standing on its own without support! If the part is thick enough, sometimes I would put a pin through it (e.g. wire or paperclip). BTW, I highly recommending getting Mr. Metal Primer to prime your kit before painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 woa! my threat is getting hijack, hahaha! kidding, actually good info here for me too since I'm a beginner on vinyl well, no pictures for now, lazy to download them from the digicam, maybe when more work is done, overall, I gotta say I'm very impressed with the kit quality, Wave sure makes nice kits, and the joints are pretty solid also, to bad this kits series have become a bit rare to cut and shape the vinyl I'm heating the pieces up with a blowdrier and then cut with a sharp xacto knife, but there sure is a lot of cutting with vinyl, what I have found most difficult is sanding, vinyl is hard to sand specially on those hard to reach areas well, just to clarify something, this wave kit is awesome, what I don't like about it is that it is a VF-19Kai Basara whatever, valk with faces are a big no-no to me, I've been reshaping the head to a VF-19S type with sanding and putty and overall is coming quite good, after that, the rest should be pretty straight forward, I will not reshape the wings since they're in position that's irrelevant to reshape, the gunpod I'll decide to reshape after most of the kit is done thanks about the weighting down the legs tip, I read about this but I didn't think it was necessary in this kit but now that you mention it, I'll do it hey HWR MKII, when you did this kit, don't know if you remember, the torso and the backpack...I cut them in the lines following the instructions but when I testfit them there's a small gap between them, by heating them up and squishing will they align properly??? will most likely post pictures of the finished modded head and assembly so far of the rest of the kit tomorrow night any other tips about vinyl are thankfully welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 ah yes, model comes articulated, but regular joints, no super revoltech ability on this, hehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexx Stalker Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm building this same kit, and I must say it's fantastic. This is a semi-finished version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) Hey, looking good there Nexx Stalker, what I like is the simplicity but yet very accurate detail of the kit...please post pictures of it when you're finished or of your progress herewell, few pics of the modded headhere's the lineart to compare both headsThe kit provides you with two heads, one with the face and one with some kind of mouthpiece that I never saw on the anime, just on the opening intro, I decided to use the one with the mouth piece since it would be easier to modHere it is sanded, ended up angled to the back, I thought my work was done but noticed it look weird and then realized I had to fix this The face has to be angled more straight as markedWell...after lots of sanding, putty, sanding sanding sanding, fix the face and also covered the sides and back according to the 19S, since this type is more like a helmet, oh yes, sanded too the 'lighting bolt rays' [ugg!! ]on the visorand here it is with the mounting for the laser antennaswell, still have a few more quirks to fix and sand a few rough edges but I guess I'm doing alright... Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 It's coming along really good!!! Great mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) thanks progress pic... Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 wow i love it the vf 19s is one of my favorites valkyries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 and here it is with the mounting for the laser antennas well, still have a few more quirks to fix and sand a few rough edges but I guess I'm doing alright... Actually, it looks more like the VF-19P now. I always though that was a cool variant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Aw man I so wish you hadn't moded it I was looking forward to the finished Kai since I'm a sucker for Bassara As for the covered-mouth face; I could never really figure out what that was for - and also - did the mouth serve any purpose other than being anthropomorphic? I mean - was there a sound system in the mouth that emitted the music/vocals? I guess it would make sense then for the face plate to open revealing the main weapon of the battroid: it's big singin' mouth... Anyways - good work Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Is this the part where I let you finish and then offer to cast my Blue Blazer 19 as per your line art pic. Good work bu the way. The blue wave 19's are far harder to get that the red one so if you ever wanted to do a Basara one then you would be still able to get one. The sound force one with the fast pack is still not so common though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 hey, it does look sorta like a 19P, the head style is very similar except that most of the front area is a big visor, if I were to paint it all green it would look more like a P, hehehe, nice catch sorry VFTF1, I know you're a big Basara fan, I was very surprised when you changed your avatar at first I thought it was someone else, the Wave VF-19S is almost impossible to get, I myself have never seen it sold anywhere (unlucky me), so I had to do this to such a fine crafted kit that is just mean big F (if I got you right, hehe), I'm here doing all this and you just gloat at me about your blue blazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) anyway, sorry about the slow update, holidays, ehhehethere isn't much to take pics of, mostly a lot of cutting, test fitting, sanding... blehwell, here's the head almost finished, need to paint and attach the other head lasers...a few painted pieces, the others are curingthis parts were a royal pain, I cut them in the line and they didn't fit properly, and left a huge ass gap, I had to put a lot putty in it and sand, I was eventually going to do this to erase that big triangle that's not part of the 19s lineart but filling the gap and having to sand it smooth trying to carefully not erase the panel lines was so tedious well...I'm letting the painted pieces to cure for about a day and half since I really don't know how the vinyl reacts to the paint eventhought I primed it with acrylic base, but still, better safe than sorryand damn, had a little accident and the head fell to the floor and the freaking visor paint cracked and chipped, I think I'm gonna have to repaint the visor again... ugh Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 more pics of that head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 that is just mean big F (if I got you right, hehe), I'm here doing all this and you just gloat at me about your blue blazer Originally I was going to build it but now I would probably just take a cast of the parts and make one from that. As mine is the only one I have ever seen it is far too rare to mess with, So it stays unbuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) slow update...almost done... some clear coating left, panel lining, I'm debating myself what color to panel line, I don't think the usual panel line will be noticeable so maybe I'll go with black or perhaps.... white? Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) ok...remembered I had to add some weight to the legs...so, empty legscheapo brand clayfilled legs, it really added weight to ittest fitting legsgot impatient and had to see how the bad boy was looking, thought this lighting looks kinda nicehmm...I'm having some trouble with the knee, I don't know if it was design like that, but it doesn't seem to be able to flex, it extend slightly forward and that's it... if anyone who's built one of this wave kit can clear this up for methanks for looking Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWR MKII Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Take that stuff out of the legs immeadiately. It will eventually eat through the vinyl. Go and get some 2 part plumbers putty and pack that in. it will harden and not adversely affect the vinly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 really??? off they go then, I have plenty of that 2 part plumber putty lying around...few, thanks for the tip, much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 more pics looks gorgeous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 That's awesome. I wish Bandai would make an accurate one in 1/60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyhauser Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Originally I was going to build it but now I would probably just take a cast of the parts and make one from that. As mine is the only one I have ever seen it is far too rare to mess with, So it stays unbuilt. Eh, They aren't THAT rare.... I've seen I think at least two on the forums for sale, and a few on ebay and the like. Given how long some of them stayed on the forums unsold (Blackaces was listed for over a year at $70), I don't think they are in demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Eh, They aren't THAT rare.... I've seen I think at least two on the forums for sale, and a few on ebay and the like. Given how long some of them stayed on the forums unsold (Blackaces was listed for over a year at $70), I don't think they are in demand. Yeah I bought Blackaces's one, since then I have not seen another on ebay and I do look quite often, maybe a little too often . As far as the MW sale forums are concerned I could well have missed one or two. the shame of it was in 2003 I saw one in Aki for £15 and didnt get it although I did get the 17 that was with it for £15 Trouble is once you have got one for cheap you kinda want them all cheap. The most I have paid for a Wave 1/72 was $80 IIRC I think the problem with the 19 Blazer was it was not made in as many numbers as the more common KAI and 17 Much easier to get a Kai and mod it into a Blazer than wait for one to come up. What I really wanted was the Sound booster Kai Missed a few of them over the years, they do tend to go for high prices though. Edited January 1, 2009 by big F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) I must have miss those sales on ebay and the wanted section too, a shame I would bought them...so I'm force to butcher the kai, ehheheanywho...doing from scratch the gunpod, I was originally planning to mod the Kai gunpod but it's shaped totally different and it would be too much work with that vinylI checked some lineart and started scratchbuilding with some left over resin sprues and putty, but when I checked again and it turns out that the lineart, the Yamato YF-19, a Bandai VF-19 and the picture of the wave VF-19 gunpods, all four show some very noticeable differences and I don't know which one exactly to do, well...here's how it's coming so far, but still a lot to do and improve Edited December 29, 2013 by Valkyrie addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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