ruskiiVFaussie Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Lisa and Rick ey? *gasp!* wtfooke are you on about comparing the masterpiece of DYRL? and Phantasm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 No, but given the choice between DYRL and Phantasm, which is also a clip episode, albeit extremely psychedelic and replete with Freudian nuance, I'd say that Phantasm is better On another note, I have just recieved an email with an interesting link pertaining to the future of Macross, with a snippet about the upcoming movie: www.jpanimenews.jp/334/story/title/upyours/completejoke.jp/440?!.//http Guess the cat is out of the bag But I still prefer the original Macross anyways:) Pete Are you sure they're not mistaking Macek as the Froating Head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamweaver13 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 No, but given the choice between DYRL and Phantasm, which is also a clip episode, albeit extremely psychedelic and replete with Freudian nuance, I'd say that Phantasm is better On another note, I have just recieved an email with an interesting link pertaining to the future of Macross, with a snippet about the upcoming movie: www.jpanimenews.jp/334/story/title/upyours/completejoke.jp/440?!.//http Guess the cat is out of the bag But I still prefer the original Macross anyways:) Pete well, there you have it. we have been invaded by Skrulls, after all. On the other hand, come on vftf1, you can come out of the closet now too, don't be shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The Froating head has truly gone lucas on us. Fokker shot first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 No, but given the choice between DYRL and Phantasm, which is also a clip episode, albeit extremely psychedelic and replete with Freudian nuance, I'd say that Phantasm is better As much as I like Phantasm (Kaifun Britai FTW!!!)...it is my considered opinion that your assessment is completely bonkers. I recommend that you listen to all available Minmay, Mylene, and Ranka versions of "Do You Remember Love" until sanity reasserts itself. Fokker shot first! Who's "Fokker"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Phantasm....is that the clip with the infamous bicycle scene? If its a DYRL re-telling, we might find this on the movie: - Ranka is already an aspiring singer/idol on Frontier - Alto and co is hardened SMS pilot and not a high school student anymore - Alto is acting as bodyguard for Sheryl when she came visiting Frontier - Michel is macronized and fight along Klan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Robot Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 If its a DYRL re-telling, we might find this on the movie: - Michel is macronized and fight along Klan Wow, you sold me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Now you're just being silly. If given a choice between DYRL and Global's Report, you'd actually say that DYRL is only a little bit better...? No, but my point is that both are just as creatively bankrupt. You're still remaking something that doesn't need to be remade when you could be spending that money on new projects. A really good example of that is the new Evangelion movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 As much as I like Phantasm (Kaifun Britai FTW!!!)...it is my considered opinion that your assessment is completely bonkers. I recommend that you listen to all available Minmay, Mylene, and Ranka versions of "Do You Remember Love" until sanity reasserts itself. tongue.gif Ah - if this was routine therapy suggested by my shrink, I would probably have continued visiting her Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impreszive Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I just wish he'd do an original movie. I mean, the guys who did Ghost in the Shell did a movie that was a continuation of the story. For christ sakes, it isn't that hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I rather get a continuation of the story than a retelling. But if it means we'll get toys of the movie variants of the Valks with all the fixes to the sculpt then I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tochiro Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Looking at how little time will have passed between the series and the movie, I cant imagine them reanimating the whole thing. I can only see two real options - a true sequel or a clip movie. And looking at trends in the anime industry at the moment, Id say a clip movie (ala Gundam Seed) is by far the more likely outcome. Unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There is a bright side to this. If it's a clip movie, then there's not going to be any "do you prefer the series or the movie" debates like with SDF M and DYRL. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 There is a bright side to this. If it's a clip movie, then there's not going to be any "do you prefer the series or the movie" debates like with SDF M and DYRL. Pete Are you kidding me? Macross Plus OVA versus Movie Edition has been a major debate, and still is. Trust me, MW will never be short of things to argue about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergorn Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Look at EVERY series that Kawamori was involved in that got a theatrical release. See a pattern? All were either clip-fests (Aquarion, Macross Plus), or remakes (Esca, Macross: DYRL). Granted, Im not counting Mac. 7 in this, but still, I think you can see a pattern there Heh ? Aquarion was a full-blown remake just like Escaflowne and DYRL, not a clip-show. And I do think considering Macross Plus a mere "clip-fest" Ã la Tomino is rather unfair considering it's based on the original script before the story was stretched to a 4 Episode OAV series. I'd say it's more like a "Director's Cut" of Macross Plus... which is why there can be actualy debate between the OAVs and the Movie (but then cutting 4 OAVs into a movie isn't quite like the same thing as editing a 25 episodes series into one) Anyway it would be dissapoiting if the Frontier movie was just a recut version of the series - I do hope for a full blown remake, eck if they did it for Aquarion, they sure can do it for Frontier ! I guess it depends when said movie will be released... Anyway I'd say it's pointless to hope for a Frontier continuation (not that I feel it *needs* one personally). We should all know by now that this is not the way Kawamori do things. 25 years later we still don't know what the eck happens with the the Megaroad 01, 14 years later we still have no resolution of Macross 7's love triangle, 4 years later we don't know what the eck happend to Shin & Sara... I mean really hoping for a continuation of Macross Frontier at this point is just hurting oneself. And if/when we get a new Macross series, it'll most likely be something brand new. -Sergorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Looking at how little time will have passed between the series and the movie, I cant imagine them reanimating the whole thing. Two flaws in your argument: DYRL and Escaflowne. Both came out quite soon after the original shows finished. I dunno...fully reanimated Frontier doesn't excite me all that much more than the idea of a clip movie, though. And I don't think the story really needs to be continued... I guess I'd prefer a side story or something. I'm not sure where they could fit one in, though, since there were no obvious gaps in the series. I think the only way I'd really like a reanimated version is if they went all-out DYRL-style and told the story in a COMPLETELY different way. If it were done well (i.e. better than Escaflowne), it could be a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two flaws in your argument: DYRL and Escaflowne. Both came out quite soon after the original shows finished. Escaflowne (TV) came out and ended in 1996. The movie came out in 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 (edited) I think the only way I'd really like a reanimated version is if they went all-out DYRL-style and told the story in a COMPLETELY different way. If it were done well (i.e. better than Escaflowne), it could be a lot of fun. Maybe Aquarion and its OVAs could be a good comparison. To give you an example, in the OVAs die different characters than the series (unlike DYRL). FV Edited October 24, 2008 by Final Vegeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Escaflowne (TV) came out and ended in 1996. The movie came out in 2000. Enh, I think my point still stands...animation technology hadn't improved THAT much in those four years. Of course, I'm using the Zeta Gundam movies for comparison... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Who's "Fokker"? Hey, I can barely remember how to spell the names of my own characters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I dunno...fully reanimated Frontier doesn't excite me all that much more than the idea of a clip movie, though. And I don't think the story really needs to be continued... Really? What happened to the Galaxy fleet? Where is Mao Nome and Grace's cohorts? Are the Vajra still in danger of expoitation?, etc... There are still quite a few open ended questions that "Your Song" never touched on... I guess I'd prefer a side story or something. I'm not sure where they could fit one in, though, since there were no obvious gaps in the series. I agree that a side story ala Dynamite would be preferable to a clip show, regardless of how mind numbingly cool the CG anime would be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Really? What happened to the Galaxy fleet? Where is Mao Nome and Grace's cohorts? Are the Vajra still in danger of expoitation?, etc... There are still quite a few open ended questions that "Your Song" never touched on... Oh, there are definitely a lot of things left unresolved. I'm not sure you could make a whole movie out of wrapping up loose ends though. Then again, that's basically what The End of Evangelion (which I love) was, so I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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