RedWolf Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Galaxy fleet what are they up to next? Their little galactic coup de'tat using the Vajra didn't work out. NUNS thanks to SMS knows they're responsible. They lost their NMC carrier but I'm they can build one in a years time like Macross 7. What are they going to do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polidread Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 dance a galactic polka till their cyborg batteries run out or our heads explode, whichever comes first. 100% sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The Galaxy Fleet didn't go turncoat, just Grace did... Am I missing something? I figured they were all dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The Galaxy Fleet didn't go turncoat, just Grace did... Am I missing something? I figured they were all dead. I assumed the Galaxy council are on board Battle Galaxy when it was KO'ed by Battle Frontier, so probably Galaxy island 1 is safe somewhere. Well, actually I'm more concerned about the hippocows in Frontier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm not convinced that Battle Galaxy was destroyed. Badly damaged and without it's gunship yes, but totally destroyed, perhaps not. Although we see Battle Frontier do a pinpoint barrier punch to Battle Galaxy's torso, we do not actually see it explode. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-25 Messiah Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The Galaxy Fleet didn't go turncoat, just Grace did... Am I missing something? I figured they were all dead. Grace wasn't alone. There were the voices who she was working with, which I believe were revealed to be the Galaxy top brass in a magazine interview (think it's still in the news thread some 20 pages or so back.) Aside from Battle Galaxy, which I doubt Grace had any hand in controlling, we saw at least 4 of the Galaxy escort vessels present (2 'dulfim class' and 2 'kaitos class) as well as at least a dozen VF-27's. Probably a significant portion of the Galaxy militairy present, the most notable absense being the Galaxy Mainland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-25 Messiah Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm not convinced that Battle Galaxy was destroyed. Badly damaged and without it's gunship yes, but totally destroyed, perhaps not. Although we see Battle Frontier do a pinpoint barrier punch to Battle Galaxy's torso, we do not actually see it explode. Graham Looks to me like the punch more or less goes through the torso... the upper half seems to be drifting away upwards for that split moment before the focus shifts away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) Galaxy fleet what are they up to next? If we knew that, I think it would have already been covered. Edited October 2, 2008 by Duke Togo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grss1982 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm not convinced that Battle Galaxy was destroyed. Badly damaged and without it's gunship yes, but totally destroyed, perhaps not. Although we see Battle Frontier do a pinpoint barrier punch to Battle Galaxy's torso, we do not actually see it explode. Graham I don't know Graham. Looks like the right arm is a goner, AND the upper torso separated. I don't know about the rest though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHX Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) probably shattered and scattered into small groups I honestly believe most of the galaxy fleet was sacrificed by those in on Grace's scheme, used as warm bodies t help them gather data. at the very least the pilots and those who have been persuaded to get implants were enslaved via the slave modules they were probably tricked into getting. there may be a few abandoned survivors out there as well as those still under control of the allies of Grace O'conner who didn't get Deadeus attacked/Machida punched at the Vajra homeworld. Edited October 2, 2008 by DHX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) Are we worried about salvage now? Call in Planetes! I think it's safe to say the Battle Galaxy is scrap. I don't think a debate on the kind of damage, size of the explosion, and number of debris chunks that floated out to determine the ship volume lost is going to solve anything. And btw, Spike is dead Going back to the Macross Galaxy, or the City/Island portion of it, they could be all dead, but that's not the impression I got. If the Battle Galaxy survived unharmed by the "Vajra attack" (and I use that term loosely), why would the City/Island portion of Macross Galaxy be gone? What's more, there were numberous Dulfim ships in the final battle at the end of Macross Forntier. Lastly, the Macross Galaxy was shown communicating with Grace later in the series. It seems to me that the majority of the Macross Galaxy fleet survived the Vajra assault. Which would then bring into question, what actually happened at the initial Vajra/Macross Galaxy battle? Since Grace's machinations were already in full swing prior to the beginning of the Macross Frontier series, it seems that the Vajra attack was orchestrated by Grace. Perhaps Grace used the Vajra to eliminate her enemies on Galaxy or perhaps she used the Vajra as an opportunity to seize the Macross Galaxy for her own nefarious purposes. Given Grace's abilities, it seems like the people of Macross Galaxy were likely under Grace's control the same way Brera Sterne was controlled. It was stated in the series that cybernetics had been embraced by the people of the Macross Galaxy fleet, so they would have been vulnerable to Grace's hacking. With Grace dead, the people of Macross Galaxy would have been free from her control. Maybe Edited October 2, 2008 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3v Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Part of me is hoping that Grace isn't dead and that she's once again being rebuilt in a Cylon res... Galaxie's city section. Can't keep a good woman/villain down I always say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nah, one of the great things about Macross is the dead guys stay dead, good and bad alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 Just one thing March. The attack on Galaxy was a fake. Grace purposedly led the Vajra to Frontier as part of their Operation Carnival with Sheryl supposed to be their main bet in controlling them. The one thing we know about Macross Galaxy was that this is a corporate venture. With an atmosphere of the priviledged and the unpriviledge of the slums. Welfare wasn't the priority but technological development. But when they started downloading their personalities inside a android bodies that is when things started to go down hill. As we've seen with Sharon Apple giving an AI construct human memories and emotion is a bad idea with tech like bio-neural chips. (Kinda like NBSG's coming spin-off Caprica.) The X-9 Ghost was fine during testing. Then again Grace already lost her marbles prior to being a gynoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulendil Ang Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) Nah, one of the great things about Macross is the dead guys stay dead, good and bad alike. Err, you forget about Gamlin and his miracle survival story in M7. But I agree with March on this case. In Macross, dead people stays dead, no matter if his name is Micheal, Kamjin or even Kakikazi. Edited October 2, 2008 by Sulendil Ang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papabear Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I would think that they wouldn't try to destroy Battle Galaxy if possible, in order to save lives, take prisoners, and get information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 But given how the battle happened with a bulk of Ghosts and likely unmanned VF-27s I wouldn't make it past Grace's cohorts killing the NUNS personnel. When Alto entered Battle Galaxy nobody stopped him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fade Rathnik Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 But given how the battle happened with a bulk of Ghosts and likely unmanned VF-27s I wouldn't make it past Grace's cohorts killing the NUNS personnel. When Alto entered Battle Galaxy nobody stopped him. If there was anybody in the way, they likely got spaced on Alto's way in. I would have busted through all but the last two bulk heads just to make sure the crew had more problems then me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalvasflam Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The Galaxy story could be a part of the movie... after all. And while it is true, most dead guys tend to stay dead, Grace is one possible exception. Remember, she revived herself on Frontier. If that chamber wasn't destroyed by Leon, she might be able to make a come back. And to me, it seems that Grace is not that moronic, she might have planned for a contingency even if others didn't. Now, having said that, she might have been careless, after all, the second I became God of Vajra, the little queen would be minus her little head. But that's just me. I would how easy it would be to remanufacture Battle Galaxy if the main Galaxy colony ship survived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) Err, you forget about Gamlin and his miracle survival story in M7. But I agree with March on this case. In Macross, dead people stays dead, no matter if his name is Micheal, Kamjin or even Kakikazi. Well...technically, they brought Kamjin back for one of the games. 98% of the time, though, Mr. March is right. Dead guys stay dead (although, if you count DYRL, a few of 'em die twice ). Edited October 3, 2008 by Gubaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Maybe the movie will show what happened to the main Galaxy Island in the end...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) Just one thing March. The attack on Galaxy was a fake. Grace purposedly led the Vajra to Frontier as part of their Operation Carnival with Sheryl supposed to be their main bet in controlling them. The one thing we know about Macross Galaxy was that this is a corporate venture. Oh. When did we learn that fact? I must have missed it. But it sounds right, given the state of the Battle Galaxy. Edited October 3, 2008 by Mr March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Oh. When did we learn that fact? I must have missed it. But it sounds right, given the state of the Battle Galaxy. We saw Galaxy hiding (and looking entirely undamaged) at the end of episode...fifteen? I think...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 the remains of the Galaxy fleet are floating around the Vajra planet like Unicron's head in Transformers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 We saw Galaxy hiding (and looking entirely undamaged) at the end of episode...fifteen? I think...? Oh, well that's what I was referring to in my own post. We saw Grace communicating with the Macross Galaxy City/Island ship. It is indeed from episode #15. I remember the scene well because it's that shot of the Macross Galaxy that I used for the profile on the M3. http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossf/macro...ross-galaxy.jpg When you said the attack was a fake, I thought I missed some dialog or something. Anyway, minor misunderstanding. I agree with you; I got the impression the Macross Galaxy City/Island ship was still around and that whole "Vajra attack" was a fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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