Best Macross animated production (1982-2008)

[Nexx Stalker]

You can specify the reason behind you choice.

[akt_m]

Voted before the lock!!! thats what happened many times when a topic with poll was made..

Edited September 26, 2008 by akt_m

[Nexx Stalker]

I voted SDF Macross (even if I was tempted to vote Macross 7) because it started my addiction, so...

Edited September 27, 2008 by Nexx Stalker

[Tobi54]

From a pure production value stand point, Macross Zero takes the cake IMO, followed by DYRL, Plus, and Frontier, respectively.

As an overall package SDF Macross is still the best Macross IMO.

[taksraven]

Its simple, the original of *anything* is usually the best. Freshest ideas, filmmakers working their backsides off with limited budgets, etc......

NOW, they can lock it!!!

Taksraven

[Gubaba]

Amazingly, there are no other polls (besides episode discussions) currently on the first page, so this one just might be spared the dreaded Lock of Azrael.

Anyway, I voted for SDFM, just like everyone who doesn't vote for DYRL will.

[Nexx Stalker]

One thing that has always amazed me is: how come DYRL is often considered superior to SDF Macross? Because of the animation or because the love for the TV series is somehow corrupted by the Robotech americanization?

Just curious.

[Duke Togo]

I prefer cake to pie.

[Morpheus]

I refuse to vote since to me, all Macross series are best compare to other anime in their time.

[Duke Togo]

I refuse to vote since to me, all Macross series are best compare to other anime in their time.

Have you seen Eureka Seven?

[emajnthis]

agreed Eureka Seven was top notch, probably the best ending of any anime in its genre. I voted SDF:M, it's my wife's favorite also, best character designs, story, most iconic, etc.

Edited September 27, 2008 by emajnthis

[Morpheus]

Have you seen Eureka Seven?

You mean E7 is not part of Macross?

[Seto Kaiba]

I chose Macross II. 's not to say DYRL and the original series weren't great, but I don't fancy how the remainder of the main timeline turned out... we've gone from "culture shock" to "magic music" and I don't like it.

[UN Spacy]

DYRL will always hold a special place in my heart for what it brought to the world of anime.

That's why it gets my vote. But Frontier, Plus, and even SDF:M have all had their moments of awesomeness.

[aerocombatpilot]

Dang, it's so hard to choose!! I'm going with Macross Do You Remember Love, however my heart aches for Flashback 2012. That last sequence with Minmay, Hikaru, and Misa was beautiful and that song still takes me back. That was the s*it back in the day, but it's not long enough so DYRL gets my vote!

[xsjado]

SDF:M because it started my love of macross and my girlfriend loves it as much as i do. she's always down to watch it and quotes it randomly.

[Macross_Fanboy]

Well, all of them have their merits, except for Macross II, not to much genius behind that series.

[505thAirborne]

Do You Remember Love. Then the original SDF TV series. All the other series are awesome too, but these are the legends.

[kung flu]

Do you remeber love, I thought the character designs were better. Nice to see them get updated uniforms etc and the Zentradi were much better than the TV versions.

[Oihan]

As much as I love II...nothing could ever top SDF Macross (TV) in my opinion. It was Macross TV that made me fall in love with the series.

1. SDF Macross

2. Macross II

3. Macross DYRL?

4. Macross Frontier

5. Macross Plus

6. Macross Zero

7. Macross Flashback 2012

8. Macross 7

That's how I rank them.

[Oihan]

Well, all of them have their merits, except for Macross II, not to much genius behind that series.

...Have you seen any of the other Macross shows? You can't tell me that none of them have borrowed from each other. Again, II uses a lot of the same plot DEVICES as DYRL?...but it's a completely DIFFERENT story.

Does no one else see that? Does no one else see any of the similarities between SDF Macross and Macross Frontier? So why rag on Macross II?

[Gubaba]

...Have you seen any of the other Macross shows? You can't tell me that none of them have borrowed from each other. Again, II uses a lot of the same plot DEVICES as DYRL?...but it's a completely DIFFERENT story.

Does no one else see that? Does no one else see any of the similarities between SDF Macross and Macross Frontier? So why rag on Macross II?

I don't know about newer fans, but I used to rag on Macross II, well, because it was first. After all the glory of SDFM and DYRL and FB2012 (which, in 1987, I thought was the prelude to a new series, not the coda to the old)...I wait five years and get, with much fanfare, something that happens 80 years after DYRL and has no characters I know or care about. I watched the first two videotapes (four episodes) and never bothered to see the last one.

A couple years later, one of my friends called Macross Plus a must-see. I was doubtful, but checked it out and was (of course) blown away.

But the bad aftertaste of Macross II hung around for a while, and it wasn't until I reexamined it recently that I grew to like it.

I'd still probably call it my least favorite, though. And it has nothing to do with Kawamori not being involved...I just wasn't impressed with it at the time, and it took almost ten years for me to go back and watch it again.

[Dervish]

I will always be very fond of SDF Macross. Followed very closely by DYRL and Macross Frontier.

[Vic Mancini]

Mac+ for me. Specifically OVA.

Zero would probably be my second choice.

Anything Mac7 would be last.

And if it's a choice between SDF and DYRL, I'm an SDF guy. DYRL was an interesting interpretation, but I prefer the sequencing of SDF a lot more.

I haven't watched Frontier yet, but I'm very excited to. I watched the first two episodes when they were first subbed. Can't wait for the rest.

[Duke Togo]

...Have you seen any of the other Macross shows? You can't tell me that none of them have borrowed from each other. Again, II uses a lot of the same plot DEVICES as DYRL?...but it's a completely DIFFERENT story.

Does no one else see that? Does no one else see any of the similarities between SDF Macross and Macross Frontier? So why rag on Macross II?

Because the plot is silly and the characters are kinda lame. But the emulators idea is kinda cool, and there are some pretty sweet mecha designs to be seen.

All that said, Kawamori has done him damnedest to work II concepts into the franchise.

[Gubaba]

All that said, Kawamori has done him damnedest to work II concepts into the franchise.

And often using the same scriptwriter who wrote MacII...

[Macross_Fanboy]

...Have you seen any of the other Macross shows? You can't tell me that none of them have borrowed from each other. Again, II uses a lot of the same plot DEVICES as DYRL?...but it's a completely DIFFERENT story.

Does no one else see that? Does no one else see any of the similarities between SDF Macross and Macross Frontier? So why rag on Macross II?

I have see all of them but II was just so weak, I tried to watch it with interest and I nearly fell asleep. After the first viewing I couldn't endure watching it a second time again and got rid of it and I wouldn't have it just for the sake of collecting it. The same plot devices from DYRL? that were used in it were just super recycled and we got a whiny hero in Hibiki, you can't tell me that using the Minmay Attack 80 years after SWI against a foe that is not Zentraedi seem kind of flawed to you? At least the people on Macross 7 had the right idea to attack conventionally and then adopt Minmay Attack-like tactics when they discovered what the Protodevlin were. Worst yet was what they did to the SDF-1, how can you just discard humanity's ark aside like that and then have it blown away? 80 years is too large of gap on top of that too. At least with the other series the scriptwriter had SK next to him for some guidance and not just take the "initiative" and make some trashy series, good thing Macross hasn't turned into what Gundam has become after Tomino left. We'd probably have the same amount of Gundam series as we do Macross if Tomino stayed onboard and didn't let anybody meddle with his creation. That's all my opinion though. Don't take offense at my opinion of trashy II. I've danced this dance before with one of my buddies.

[Sumdumgai]

I voted Macross Frontier for various reasons. Overall it had fantastic animation quality for the most part (handful of horribly animated scenes and some cheaply animated filler-ish episodes). Great cast of characters that we haven't seen the likes of since the original series, as opposed to just a small handful of characters. Furthered the story without making a number of old school Macross fans vomit, like Macross 7 did. The awesomeness of Macross Plus and Zero in a tv series.

Great mecha design and action scenes.

This series had people more worked up over each episode than the entire of Macross Zero (see WTF-1 as a good example).

Fantastic music that had a bit of everything from the history of Macross (exception of Plus and Zero).

It's a great successor to the original series. For now it's what I consider to be the best animated Macross production.

Macross Frontier

Macross DYRL

Macross Plus

Macross Zero

SDF Macross

Macross 7

-Macross II can stay alone in its little corner, the little bastard child about a war reporter.

[Macross_Fanboy]

-Macross II can stay alone in its little corner, the little bastard child about a war reporter.

[Oihan]

I have see all of them but II was just so weak, I tried to watch it with interest and I nearly fell asleep. After the first viewing I couldn't endure watching it a second time again and got rid of it and I wouldn't have it just for the sake of collecting it. The same plot devices from DYRL? that were used in it were just super recycled and we got a whiny hero in Hibiki, you can't tell me that using the Minmay Attack 80 years after SWI against a foe that is not Zentraedi seem kind of flawed to you? At least the people on Macross 7 had the right idea to attack conventionally and then adopt Minmay Attack-like tactics when they discovered what the Protodevlin were. Worst yet was what they did to the SDF-1, how can you just discard humanity's ark aside like that and then have it blown away? 80 years is too large of gap on top of that too. At least with the other series the scriptwriter had SK next to him for some guidance and not just take the "initiative" and make some trashy series, good thing Macross hasn't turned into what Gundam has become after Tomino left. We'd probably have the same amount of Gundam series as we do Macross if Tomino stayed onboard and didn't let anybody meddle with his creation. That's all my opinion though. Don't take offense at my opinion of trashy II. I've danced this dance before with one of my buddies.

Yes, I didn't like what happened to the SDF-1, but I thought the story was great...along with the music, characters, and animation. As for using the Minmay Attack 80 years later. From my understanding all they were really dealing with were rogue Zentraedi. They had an effective means of disorienting those Zentraedi and it was working for them for that long. If it isn't broken, why fix it? It makes perfect sense to me. It just annoys me to see someone fault II for using plot devices found in another show. ...And of course I would never take offense...it is your opinion and you are, of course, entitled to it just like everyone else. To each their own.

Edit: My apologies for going off-topic.

Edited September 27, 2008 by Oihan

[Macross_Fanboy]

Yes, I didn't like what happened to the SDF-1, but I thought the story was great...along with the music, characters, and animation. As for using the Minmay Attack 80 years later. From my understanding all they were really dealing with were rogue Zentraedi. They had an effective means of disorienting those Zentraedi and it was working for them for that long. If it isn't broken, why fix it? It makes perfect sense to me. It just annoys me to see someone fault II for using plot devices found in another show. ...And of course I would never take offense...it is your opinion and you are, of course, entitled to it just like everyone else. To each their own.

Edit: My apologies for going off-topic.

Yeah rouge Zentraedi, the Mardook ships definitely looked like something else. Remember that Zentraedi don't know how to repair or even upgrade their ships and that their designs have remained static for thousands of years. That's what made it weak, recycling that same plot device that worked in the last one for something with a completely different situation. Considering the advancements in technology, I'm sure that such an attack isn't needed anymore, I mean look at that Macross Cannon ship, that monster plus all those "advanced" VF designs are more than enough for any other ships, I can understand colony fleets, but nobody knows about the colonization programs in that parallel universe. And as Togo said as well, plot was silly and characters lame, hell, I didn't care for any of the characters in that. I had more affection for Physica in 7 than I did for Hibiki, Nexx, Ishtar, and the others' who's names escape me.

[Nexx Stalker]

Yeah rouge Zentraedi, the Mardook ships definitely looked like something else. Remember that Zentraedi don't know how to repair or even upgrade their ships and that their designs have remained static for thousands of years. That's what made it weak, recycling that same plot device that worked in the last one for something with a completely different situation. Considering the advancements in technology, I'm sure that such an attack isn't needed anymore, I mean look at that Macross Cannon ship, that monster plus all those "advanced" VF designs are more than enough for any other ships, I can understand colony fleets, but nobody knows about the colonization programs in that parallel universe. And as Togo said as well, plot was silly and characters lame, hell, I didn't care for any of the characters in that. I had more affection for Physica in 7 than I did for Hibiki, Nexx, Ishtar, and the others' who's names escape me.

Leave any MII debate out of this thread, please.

Arigato.

[Black Valkyrie]

Frontier, Why ? ... VF-25

[ruskiiVFaussie]

Voted M Zero, it's just so beautiful to watch, and being an OVA, repeat marathon viewings (1 episode after the other) is easier to do

than lets say, the SDFM series. Huge soft spot for Zero.

Next would be DYRL?

[carzooyah]

Voted for 0. I can't find anything with a higher production value than that (I'm totally ignoring the story here, just the production and animation quality).