Ignacio Ocamica Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Most likely on the bottom of a $5000 check. You're so right!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Well I finally broke down and bought the beagle ride armor, it got here just in time for valentines day! It's absolutely wonderful and amazing except for 2 things. 1.The right arm guard is kinda loose so the slightest nudge will move it out of place, not a real big deal. 2.The regular head is fine but the helmeted head just flops around in the neck socket, it's strong enough to hold it in but otherwise it's useless. I tightened the neck screw up alittle but that did nothing, what can I do to fix this problem? Thanks for the fix idea RD Blade, that worked like a charm. Edited February 16, 2009 by dizman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 the helmeted head just flops around in the neck socket, it's strong enough to hold it in but otherwise it's useless. what can I do to fix this problem?A member here posted a pic of his solution. He put a small piece of Scotch Tape on the ball joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) I was reading an old Japanese anime mag lastnight. This particular issue was devoted to Mospeada. On the back they showed an ad for the upcoming Gakken toys and along with the 1/35 Legioss and Gakken kits they showed an ad for a Perfect Change 1/10 Mospeada. Not a kit. Was this an early prototype of what would eventually become the 1/8? It looked far more in proportion with nicer detailing. Anyone know what this toy was? I think the price was around 5000en Edited February 16, 2009 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Gakken had lots of ideas that didn't come to fruition for Mospeada. Can you post a scan of the ad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Gakken had lots of ideas that didn't come to fruition for Mospeada. Can you post a scan of the ad? It was one of the mags that Beagle had in that display when they first announced the 1/10. The one with a full shot of Ray on the cover. I don't have a scanner unfortunately. But it DID have a price, Seemed ready to be released. More than just an abandoned idea. Edited February 16, 2009 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroRay Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Would it have been the Mospeada issue of the OUT anime magazine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I've updated my Fuke review to include Houquet. Here's a sample pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Would it have been the Mospeada issue of the OUT anime magazine? Have to check out my copy when I get home. I'm sure the title is "Anime-" something. It's definitely the copy shown in the Beagle display stand when they announced the 1/10. You can see the cover in one of the old Mw threads. I also rememeber the price was 4980en and it was next to the 1/35 Legioss priced at 3980en. The details were far beyond the 1/8 Gakken. It had a much thinner chest in armour mode, a black visor, hands that were more realistic with no holes for the gun, more detailed legs, a much more detailed crotch piece in armor mode and no visible/external hook up points for the suspension at the front of the bike. There are also pics of the 1/12 kit next to it. Those were priced at around 1500en I think. No way a kit would be more expensive than the 1/35 Legioss (right?). In which case, it seems we missed out on a superior Ride-armor and got the 1/8 in its place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boota Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 You boys are talking about this one right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroRay Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I've updated my Fuke review to include Houquet. You mean Shinobu. Great review, though - as always! I should have mine from Japan in 2 or 3 weeks. I'm fully expecting to do a lot of 'tweaking'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroRay Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 You boys are talking about this one right? Ah, HA! Yeaaahhhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) THAT'S the one! So what is with that ride-armor? I've never seen a kit that matches that in that scale. And it looks as if it came just within an inch of release. Can't see an visible screw-holes indicitive of a "TOY" (though a prototype might not have any). BTW, that's a great magazine. Tons of really great sketches, posters, line-art, character bios etc. And some really nice pics of the genesis of the mecha designs, the insane models some guy made of the Tread B, and nice little self portraits of the design team. And if I remember, a lot of info about the recording of the show, cast bios etc. Edited February 17, 2009 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Looks like a prototype of what became the 1/8 toy to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks for the fix idea RD Blade, that worked like a charm.Cool! Don't mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Looks like a prototype of what became the 1/8 toy to my eyes. Which is quite disappointing. This supposed prototype looks to be far better than the 1/8. It even has complete and detailed verniers (an important and sadly neglected area on the 1/8. Could it be that they thought this version would be too costly/delicate/impractical to mass-produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 What is the Legioss at the bottom right with the shoulder missile pod and the open missile hatches on the legs, and the little Stig? Is that a kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) The Stick is the 1/12 kit and the Legioss is the 1/48 kit. Both are non-variable. I wish I knew where that prototype were now (if not ground to plastic atoms long ago). Imagine if Toynami's original Ride-armor had been based on THIS design. YAR! Edited February 17, 2009 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Which is quite disappointing. This supposed prototype looks to be far better than the 1/8. It even has complete and detailed verniers (an important and sadly neglected area on the 1/8.Pardon my ignorance...but what's a vernier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) A thruster. The 1/8's thrusters were always pointing up. Hate that. All the thrust would force them down. Stick- "Ok. Now to fire this thing WHUP!!!!!!!!!!!!" Ray- Ew? Edited February 17, 2009 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD Blade Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Ah...gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Which is quite disappointing. This supposed prototype looks to be far better than the 1/8. It even has complete and detailed verniers (an important and sadly neglected area on the 1/8. Could it be that they thought this version would be too costly/delicate/impractical to mass-produce? Yes but it also essentially looks like the rider could never even come close to interacting with teh bike in bike mode. I'm also guessing they had issues with certain parts being too small and would potentially break. It looks like every single product on that page is a prototype. The 1/35 ended up having a bronzed canopy in the production model. Edited February 17, 2009 by jenius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regult Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I am wondering what's that wallpaper you're using on your computer!?? I like that crisp pic of a Super VF-25F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) I guess we can dream of the 1/8 that could have been. Interesting though, why what eventually became the 1/8 gakken was so drastically simplified. Could they have at least kept the chest design from this ride armor? (Wow. I'm bitching over a 20-plus year old toy) Edited February 17, 2009 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesonme78 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 well guys, hope i am the first to post this.. Toynami new release... something new i hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I wonder why they didn't have a Shadow Fighter Alpha in that display. I didn't see anything that would qualify as new on the RT side there though. They did have art up that seemed to confirm that Ariel will be on the Shadow Beta's box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totoro242 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I guess we can dream of the 1/8 that could have been. Interesting though, why what eventually became the 1/8 gakken was so drastically simplified. Could they have at least kept the chest design from this ride armor? (Wow. I'm bitching over a 20-plus year old toy) If you look close, the cycle is a seperate model from the Ride Armor. Neither are transforming as there are no mechanisms or seams where the pieces should come together. In the pictures below you can see that there were also Legioss models made, those are also non-transforming. My personal opinion is that these are models that the animators used for reference while animating. I'm sure they were given to Gakken to help them visualize the toys and models, but in the end they chose a different look for the large Ride Armor toy; I'm sure because it needed to be more functional. The Legioss though, seems to have directly inspired those awful little 1/55 3-mode toys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Happiest bunch of animators... ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The new Beta/Tread Fighter bombers look awesome!! You wonder if the Alpha/Legioss fighters in front are the old piles of junk or new mfg'ed? Either way looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) The new Beta/Tread Fighter bombers look awesome!! You wonder if the Alpha/Legioss fighters in front are the old piles of junk or new mfg'ed? Either way looks great! Why would you wonder about those Alphas? They're the same old pieces of junk just being used to help drum up sells of the Betas (and, from Toynami's perspective, help sell those old Alphas). Toynami just put out an Alpha WORSE than the original ones, they're not going to start suddenly making better Alphas. That ship has sailed, for the MPCs at least. They'll make a much bigger deal if they have a new or improved product rather than just putting it next to a toy with the same color. Totoro, excellent hypothesis about those seeming toys. You're right, they do look completely non-transformable (the ones we don't recognize at least). I'll bet that's the same deal with that Tread toy we saw that looked roughly 1/35 scale in one of those obscure pictures (since it seemed to match up with that clearly non-transformable Legioss). Now, why did they put a jolly roger on that Legioss? Edited February 17, 2009 by jenius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Anyone who preordered a Beagle/Toynami Cyclone on Robotech.com received a shipping confirmation yet? There were supposed to ship yesterday, but I still haven't heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Have heard nothing yet from Robotech.com - I preordered the cyclone and red beta. I did finally see the combined art for the Beta MPCs of Rand, Annie, Lunk and Marlene and actually liked it. Don't care for the pic of Scott on the cyclone. They have stolen the nose and mouth from some type of rabbit or sheep or something. Looks anything but fierce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Now, why did they put a jolly roger on that Legioss? no decals ready for it. The rest of the decals composes of Area 88 and an upside down UN Spacy kite and decals from other kits. Like Totoro said, preproduction pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totoro242 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 no decals ready for it. The rest of the decals composes of Area 88 and an upside down UN Spacy kite and decals from other kits. Like Totoro said, preproduction pieces. Thats probably part of it. I also heard somewhere that the jolly roger was a sort of tongue-in-cheek poke at the fact that they had to make a transforming fighter because Macross was so popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 They also did the art for some of the boxes, but from the upside down kite I say it was just a filler. I decided to take off the fabric from the Beagle Stig figure... replaced it with some foam and heat shrink tubes. I gotta say, taking it apart I understood why they included the fabric... I'm gonna play with my mod some more to see where the compromises are I'll take better pictures tomorrow in the sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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