Tober Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Well that does it. Im canceling my order with over drive for the beagle version and going with the toynami. Love the presentation. Do Overdrive let you cancel? I thought once you paid you were basically committed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 wow no one posted these yet? it was already on the 2nd page of toys daily I didn't realize the Toynami production run was only 3000. How small must the Beagle run be then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 So Toynami's own manual will show photos with the Beagle head? Not sure I like the Scott illustration on the outside - looks a little 'rabbity'. The changes I hoped for are not there of course, like the darker red, better cloth and less bright white plastics. Oh well - pumped to get this thing - hope it ships soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 So Toynami's own manual will show photos with the Beagle head? Not sure I like the Scott illustration on the outside - looks a little 'rabbity'. The changes I hoped for are not there of course, like the darker red, better cloth and less bright white plastics. Oh well - pumped to get this thing - hope it ships soon. Don't really see the 'rabbity' thing you mention. I actually like the outside illustration quite a lot... much more than I like the final Toynami head sculpt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilermo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Don't really see the 'rabbity' thing you mention. I actually like the outside illustration quite a lot... much more than I like the final Toynami head sculpt. I have to say i am quite fond of the Early toynami head sculpt. I still think it's a shame this version was never released (or maybe not considering their QC) It would be a great alternative for the Gakken version and more choice out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I have to say i am quite fond of the Early toynami head sculpt. I still think it's a shame this version was never released (or maybe not considering their QC) It would be a great alternative for the Gakken version and more choice out there. This was the early Toynami version, which was cancelled and replaced by the Beagle? Does it differ from the Gakken in any way other than the head sculpt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Maybe its not too 'rabbity' - just the nose and mouth. Here's a comparison pic with an actual rabbit with helmut. I do like the early Toynami head sculpt best out of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilermo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Maybe its not too 'rabbity' - just the nose and mouth. Here's a comparison pic with an actual rabbit with helmut. I do like the early Toynami head sculpt best out of all. They look like Twins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilermo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 This was the early Toynami version, which was cancelled and replaced by the Beagle? Does it differ from the Gakken in any way other than the head sculpt? It has more detail, rubber tiers, Better hands etc.. I would choose this one over the Gakken version were it not for the QC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I wonder who the lucky devil is who gets one of these proto-types to display in their personal collection. The Toynami Cyclone that never was. eBay in 10 years; $5,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilermo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I wonder who the lucky devil is who gets one of these proto-types to display in their personal collection. The Toynami Cyclone that never was. eBay in 10 years; $5,000 I would like to be thay lucky basterd It will probably cost an arm and a legg right now on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woll622 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 wow no one posted these yet? it was already on the 2nd page of toys daily Did anyone notice that the box seems to be the same size as the Alpha boxes? I remember Toynami saying that they were going with the Beta box size for this. Not that I am complaining that it is smaller. I have limited room for these considering all of the other Robotech/Mospeada stuff I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowyunskinny Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Does it differ from the Gakken in any way other than the head sculpt? It differs in that it calls "The Shire" home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Did you notice the detail on the leg lights? The detail on the chest lights? The 2 diff treads for the front and rear tires? -- Look at me! I haven't even gotten the MPC yet and I'm already wishing for something else! But I just watched the Jonathan Wolf episode with my son, and for that episode anyway it really shows the Cyclone armor to be like the Beagle - not Gakken or the Toynami that never was. Those remind me of some 'ol suit of armor that makes mobility difficult. They're cool but not like the streamlined shape of this one coming out. The Beagle/MPC is more of a light, zipping around suit that I would want if I were taking on the purple slugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 The Toynami's biggest difference from the Gakken was the articulation in the rider figure. Then there's all the extra details including the the jets and fins that pop out of the wheels. Well, I guess the real biggest difference was the price, the Toynami was supposed to run $79.99, not $199.99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Maybe its not too 'rabbity' - just the nose and mouth. Here's a comparison pic with an actual rabbit with helmut. I do like the early Toynami head sculpt best out of all. That's funny stuff. AND I'm impressed by your photoshop job there. I get what you meant by the rabbity now. I was thinking ears, not face. Sorry, I've been up for 40 hours straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I wonder who the lucky devil is who gets one of these proto-types to display in their personal collection. The Toynami Cyclone that never was. eBay in 10 years; $5,000 So would this now be the most rare MOSPEADA collectible to date? Even more rare than the old crummy Betas/Treads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Which would you rather have in your display case? I'd take the Toynami Cyclone that never was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 I opted to skip out on the Megahouse to get the Beagle... getting the unreleased Toynami cyclone would probably equate to getting the Megahouse. If I can skip out on something that was widely available, I can certainly skip out on a "rare" toy that wasnt good enough to be released. But I do prefer that head sculpt to the Toynami Beagle Masterpiece. And yeah it struck me as weird that they had the Beagle head in the instructions for the MPC also. No Biggie. So did they just change the box but the tray is the same? Everything is there right? Stand and all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I wouldn't have preferred the original Toynami if it ACTUALLY made and sold. I just meant I wanted one of the probably 3 prototypes they have somewhere. I'm sure I will be very thankful Beagle stepped in when they did so that Toynami could just partner up. From what I can see so far my only complaint will be with the loose cloth and the neck screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Have to say, since part of me would like somewhat matching versions of my different variable bikes, and I doubt Beagle would ever undertake the Bubblegum Crisis and Megazone 23 licenses... would be interesting to see Yamato do a MOSPEADA (and not just help Beagle with the box). Still no word on shipping from Robotech.com... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 My wish is for something we don't have yet, like a 1/10th or 1/55th Invid/Inbit Scout/Eager or Shock Trooper/Gurab. Yamato, Toynami or Beagle would be fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Have to say, since part of me would like somewhat matching versions of my different variable bikes, and I doubt Beagle would ever undertake the Bubblegum Crisis and Megazone 23 licenses... would be interesting to see Yamato do a MOSPEADA (and not just help Beagle with the box). Still no word on shipping from Robotech.com... From what I've heard, Ex Yamato people are the same people in Beagle, so you're probably not gonna get any much more different than what you're getting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I hope the quality for the Toynami Cyclone is as good (better maybe....?) the Beagle version. So far i have only heard a few minor issues with the Beagle. Toynami has gained a bit a reassurance from people with the Beta fighter-Bomber and with the recall of the Alphas. So I'll keep my fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 From what I've heard, Ex Yamato people are the same people in Beagle, so you're probably not gonna get any much more different than what you're getting now. Problem is, I want the quality and detail of the Beagle, but at a scale to match the Yamato variable bikes... Probably asking way too much here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I hope the quality for the Toynami Cyclone is as good (better maybe....?) the Beagle version. So far i have only heard a few minor issues with the Beagle. Toynami has gained a bit a reassurance from people with the Beta fighter-Bomber and with the recall of the Alphas. So I'll keep my fingers crossed. I highly doubt it will be any better. With luck it will be the same. But that's the main reason I sprung for the Beagle, Toynami's reputation has preceded itself. Hopefully Toynami is doing nothing more than putting a different head on (and a different sticker on the stand), throwing it in a different box and calling it a day because anything else seems to end in disaster with them. Vostok 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_i_t_h_l_o_r_d Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Touting the Beagle toy for a Toynami product in their "certificate of authenticity" says a lot about their disingenuous business practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_i_t_h_l_o_r_d Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) double play Edited January 28, 2009 by s_i_t_h_l_o_r_d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilermo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 My Beagle arrived today . I must admit it wasn't easy to transform. took me 45 minutes . I wonder if i can get it back to bike form without breaking anything. It is more a display piece than a toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Problem is, I want the quality and detail of the Beagle, but at a scale to match the Yamato variable bikes... Probably asking way too much here. It is asking for too much I guess... first of all, Megahouse is already at that scale (1/15) and if you scale down a Beagle you wont get the quality. you'd get a CMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Touting the Beagle toy for a Toynami product in their "certificate of authenticity" says a lot about their disingenuous business practice. To be fair, we don't really know the interactions of the companies in the development of the toy. They may just be distributors or they may have had some key conversations early with Beagle that helped shape the final product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 To be fair, we don't really know the interactions of the companies in the development of the toy. They may just be distributors or they may have had some key conversations early with Beagle that helped shape the final product. I think that would be too fair on Toynami's side since Beagle already had CADs for their version when Toynami was still touting their prototype. It wasn't until SDCC last year that we found out that Toynami made the switch after we already had months of Beagle prototype pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I highly doubt it will be any better. With luck it will be the same. But that's the main reason I sprung for the Beagle, Toynami's reputation has preceded itself. Hopefully Toynami is doing nothing more than putting a different head on (and a different sticker on the stand), throwing it in a different box and calling it a day because anything else seems to end in disaster with them. Vostok 7 I agree with ya Vostok, Lets hope its just a new head & sticker solution, or basically just a Beagle in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_i_t_h_l_o_r_d Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 To be fair, we don't really know the interactions of the companies in the development of the toy. They may just be distributors or they may have had some key conversations early with Beagle that helped shape the final product. I found it funny to point out the irony of the cert of authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes, I can definitely see some humor there. You'd think they'd at least go for dual badging. The back of the cert probably has Beagle plastered all over it though. It's similar to the MPC Beta. Toynami is lapping up the credit there, and getting it, but it seems that really Aoshima deserves most the kudos. On another note, here's something to consider. Toynami apparently agreed to purchase 3000 of the Beagle (with minor changes) to sell outside of Japan. The Beagle still retails for $280. Imagine what the Beagle would have cost if they didn't have some cost splitting with (and revenue from) Toynami. I think it's quite possible that without the Toynami connection the Beagle would have been dumbed down from what it is now or cost an even more ridiculous amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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