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There are ways to have telescopic gears with a locking mechanism.

Yup! And they don't need to be complex, either.

Now, I'm wondering *why* the nose gear is so short---look how long the nose gear DOORS are. The bay has the be fairly long.

My main concern at this point is the legs in fighter mode---why are they way below the level of the wings and shield as seen from above? There's not merely a "gap", they seem to be half as high up as they should be. They should be well ABOVE the shield in fighter mode, just like a VF-19's legs/shoulders are. That ruins the look of fighter mode than any proportion issue IMHO. At this point I can't believe that the toy's been mis-transformed that much EVERY time. They're not even close to being in the right position. But I mean--why even have the large cut-outs around the shield and wings, if the legs don't go into them? So you can look down through the holes and see the legs?

PS---is it just me, or are these new pics of an older sample?

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Yup! And they don't need to be complex, either.

Now, I'm wondering *why* the nose gear is so short---look how long the nose gear DOORS are. The bay has the be fairly long.

There is really little room in there. Unless they cheat like the model with removable.

http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/011152/12.html

My main concern at this point is the legs in fighter mode---why are they way below the level of the wings and shield as seen from above? There's not merely a "gap", they seem to be half as high up as they should be. They should be well ABOVE the shield in fighter mode, just like a VF-19's legs/shoulders are. That ruins the look of fighter mode than any proportion issue IMHO. At this point I can't believe that the toy's been mis-transformed that much EVERY time. They're not even close to being in the right position.

i.e.

http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/011152/04.html v.s. http://gamu-toys.info/gangu/pura/r3/mf01/DSC_4033.JPG

I think they leave the gap for the fast pack and armour packs. We don't know what they really plan for the model fast pack yet.

Another interesting aspect of DX v.s. model is the dorsal wings on the legs. The DX can completely hide the wings into the legs:

http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/011152/18.html -> http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/011152/19.html

But the model cannot. I am not sure which one is more accurate.

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Bandai is really doing a great job on this valkyrie imo, and giving their financial background and quality assurance i'm sure they'll do a better job than yamato. Not that yamato ain't good, but Bandai just has more resources at their disposal to create better products.

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I think they leave the gap for the fast pack and armour packs. We don't know what they really plan for the model fast pack yet.

Nearly every valk has had the legs bend/position the same way for FAST pack attachment. There's no need to "leave a big space above them" for the armor. The legs are "straight" in fighter mode and flush with where they should be, and to lower the legs to make room for armor you move the leg joint "1 click" at the thigh and "1 click" at the knee. If there's a huge gap with straight legs, something's wrong.

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Bandai is really doing a great job on this valkyrie imo, and giving their financial background and quality assurance i'm sure they'll do a better job than yamato. Not that yamato ain't good, but Bandai just has more resources at their disposal to create better products.

Amen

That is why when it was announced that Bandai was designing and manufacturing the valk I was happy while all the others were whining that Yamato was not manufacturing it. Be grateful, My Yammie Yf-21 cant hold the fastbacks on the belly without scotch tape!!!! Some QC !

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sorry , I think that will not pose a problem to put these images

dx vf-25f 1/60 bandai , release december

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there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this design! and it surprises me that Kawamori would not have thought of it. If this plane were to land on an air strip it would literally sheer the rear thrusters off each time it did so. Planes need to land on (correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm close enough) 30-40 Degree angles to catch the rear landing gears first and then it lowers its nose cone to have the front landing gears touch. This plane would either need to always take off and land in Valk mode or it must have vtol thrusters which I dont see any

just thought to mention

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Amen

That is why when it was announced that Bandai was designing and manufacturing the valk I was happy while all the others were whining that Yamato was not manufacturing it. Be grateful, My Yammie Yf-21 cant hold the fastbacks on the belly without scotch tape!!!! Some QC !

That means you probably just haven't figured out how to attach them correctly. Once they are on properly, they ain't falling off.

Graham

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Amen

That is why when it was announced that Bandai was designing and manufacturing the valk I was happy while all the others were whining that Yamato was not manufacturing it. Be grateful, My Yammie Yf-21 cant hold the fastbacks on the belly without scotch tape!!!! Some QC !

i dont recall anybody complaining about the yf-21 fast packs mounting it.

but arent you that person who had a hard time of flushing in the yf-19's nose/canopy section?

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My main concern at this point is the legs in fighter mode---why are they way below the level of the wings and shield as seen from above? There's not merely a "gap", they seem to be half as high up as they should be. They should be well ABOVE the shield in fighter mode, just like a VF-19's legs/shoulders are. That ruins the look of fighter mode than any proportion issue IMHO. At this point I can't believe that the toy's been mis-transformed that much EVERY time. They're not even close to being in the right position. But I mean--why even have the large cut-outs around the shield and wings, if the legs don't go into them? So you can look down through the holes and see the legs?

That's another thing that's been bothering me as well. That VF-25 toy isn't very well integrated with all its parts.

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I wish bandai sold the 1/72 as prepainted kits.

Would you buy a kit that was painted up if they charged more for it? (like the weathered valks that yamato is doing for 1/48)

yeah. but they're not, because they hate us.

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Just wanted to bring this up again, do we know anything about stands for this thing? as anything been said as to weither this will come with it's own stand, work with the bandai action bases, or will we have to get our own stands?

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speaking of masterpiece that list can be further extended to the alpha

The Masterpiece Alphas have the worst landing gear design of all time. Because of that massive flaw in design on the rear struts & wheels, I just leave Alpha in the box!!! :(

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I've been wondering if they're purposely trying to make it as un-Yamato as possible.

I've been wondering if they just like to hear teeth gnash around these parts...

<_<

I think Bandai is "Mommy Deaf" from all the years of fans bitching about every little

detail (CoughZETAGUNDAMCough) on an item. It just gets old after a while, and becomes

background noise. Kind of like insects on a autumn day. They screech and rachet into

the sunset but the sun still sets and by all that is robotic I will buy this series of product

with all the armor and what not because it and the series it hails from is Effin' Schweet!

But not perfect...

^_^

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I sill won't buy this, hahahaha! Bandai made it for the chunky fans and I'm not one of them, to each his own, but I'm really interested about the quality of this kit for the people that will buy it, will Bandai's first venture into perfect transformation kit be riddled with QC like Yamato or will they show Yamato how it's done? hehehe...

hahaha, anything to help the prices go down! ^_^

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I wonder how quality will be on it. The early run of toys of the Saint Cloth Myths had horrible quality control, so you had to be careful and inspect the toy through the split case window box, to make sure that there weren't any visible problems. From there you had to cross your fingers and hope that the armor would fit and didn't have any issues (and at first Bandai didn't have high QC standards on those toys).

If Macross Frontier merchandise is successful, they may come back and redo the VF-25 to look good. Much like when they made later versions of certain characters armor from Saint Seiya, they updated how the figures looked to make them look more like the particular characters.

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