dreamweaver13 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Switching to reaction weapons should have happened in the first episode after they discovered regular munitions didn't pack enough punch. Is that what happened? And the after that, taking out Vajra was no big deal, right? Actually, I seem to remember them being pretty hard to kill even in the fifth episode. not so simple. use of reaction weaponry is regulated, at best. a fleet can't use these weapons without specific authorization from a higher power, and only (i presume) after all other options have repeatedly failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamweaver13 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Going by Macross tradition, we haven't even seen a full, solitary, percent of what the Vajra can throw at the Frontier. I seem to recall in the first series a SINGLE battleship called Macross making fools of an entire Zentradi armada... until 4.7 million ships showed up and glassed Earth. Seriously, the true terror of the Vajra is yet to come. We've seen a SINGLE Vajra fleet get iced. Whoop de do. This is in a series where an armada of 10,000 capital ships and its fighters is considered small. First it was a group of lobsters, Then one battleship, Now a fleet with a mothership. Anyone seeing a pattern here? true, true. lest we forget, the vajra are a bug-type alien race which, in all-sci fi i have seen so far, rely mostly on vastly superior numbers. although i have a feeling that while an almost mind-boggling number of vajra will come to attack, that battle mgiht just be a background to a main battle that willbe far more sinister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grss1982 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Going by Macross tradition, we haven't even seen a full, solitary, percent of what the Vajra can throw at the Frontier. I seem to recall in the first series a SINGLE battleship called Macross making fools of an entire Zentradi armada... until 4.7 million ships showed up and glassed Earth. Seriously, the true terror of the Vajra is yet to come. We've seen a SINGLE Vajra fleet get iced. Whoop de do. This is in a series where an armada of 10,000 capital ships and its fighters is considered small. First it was a group of lobsters, Then one battleship, Now a fleet with a mothership. Anyone seeing a pattern here? If were to follow Macross Tradition than what will appear next is a..............armada composed of millions of Vajra Motherships and Battleships PLUS a Vajra version of the Gorg Bodolzaa-Class Mobile Fortress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3v Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 If were to follow Macross Tradition than what will appear next is a..............armada composed of millions of Vajra Motherships and Battleships PLUS a Vajra version of the Gorg Bodolzaa-Class Mobile Fortress. Which will then subsequently be owned hard by a song (or heaven forbid, song energy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cube Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 im thinking....since the vajra seem to be controlled by someone else, that the more they have in the battle, the less "skilled" they are. So there may be a limited number of controllers. Have a few of them attacking and they can put all their attention into avoiding missiles and fighting, put hundreds in and the controller's attention is split between multiple units, making them individually less effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 We don't know that they're less effective in larger numbers. There's been nothing to imply that, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final Vegeta Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Nobody here thinks that Vajra defeated = new types of Vajra? In episode 7 it was only a minor defeat for the Vajra, after all. Since a queen was killed maybe they will rework their strategy. FV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of TSXer Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 danth Definitely. I enjoyed the thread where Zinpsycho was one step away from being committed to a mental institution. Damnit did I miss something funny again while stuck at work? I'd love to read that...link please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Nobody here thinks that Vajra defeated = new types of Vajra? In episode 7 it was only a minor defeat for the Vajra, after all. Since a queen was killed maybe they will rework their strategy. FV Well... If there was Queen, there can always be a VAJRA KING too!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) Another thing to consider is that, as far as we know, Frontier hadnt been in a battle at all, or at least in many years. Their pilots would be raw whent he series started. Now we've seen a few battles, they'd have been training harder, better gear etc etc. I dont find it surprising they won. Also Macross didnt exactly kick ass in the series at first. As i recall it, the Zentradi were studying it and sending probing attacks, not full on trying to take it out. If they had wanted Macross destroyed earlier, they could have done so before the huge fleet at the end showed up. Edited July 16, 2008 by Scream Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-girl Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Well... If there was Queen, there can always be a VAJRA KING too!!!! Unless they're like a lot of insect/hive type constructs, in which case, the males are all drones/peons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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