anime52k8 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 how come when i asked this people didn't listen/where rude to me and said oh VF-4 is part of robotech yada yada yada. At what point did you suggest they make a VF-4? you were saying they should make a VF-1R, which is completely different from what we're talking about here. wait... why am I even typing this, I'm trying to explain to someone their own statements... I give up. anyways. they should sell the Heavy weapons unit as a seperate variant. they should also do an 'S' varrient using the head form the SHE variable resin kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) how come when i asked this people didn't listen/where rude to me and said oh VF-4 is part of robotech yada yada yada. Your all over the place shadow, this is the internets, people don't have time to decipher random rants. It's not personal, it's how it is. Edited July 3, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D' only Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I would love to see a toy version of VF-4 model in Hikaru's Room (in DYRL)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Your all over the place shadow, this is the internets, people don't have time to decipher random rants. It's not personal, it's how it is. Maybe you should try writing it in such a way he'll be able to read it? "there peace is toy not same toy soeak u of, thaz way person mad because veritech not same as da won you ask from" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) lol the who and the what now? bah i quit. Lookie! VF-4 BABY! isn't she a beaut. http://rapidshare.com/users/4EJDD5 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=244 Edited July 6, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 That's a beautiful shot. The nose is just a tad bit too long for my taste. ...and I believe the model that Hikaru had in the tv show was the VF-X-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Yeah it was - http://www.new-un-spacy.com/m3-index.htm I personally hate the design, glad it "evolved into sexy" enough of that - http://rapidshare.com/users/4EJDD5 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=244 Edited July 6, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I like that long CGI better then the snub nosed version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Love how the stowed the GU at the back, so damn cool! Ahh hurry up Yamato or Bandai. http://rapidshare.com/users/4EJDD5 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=244 Edited July 6, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Side are cannons are deadly looking too, early Q-Rau crossover? I'd be modifying the head colour like those 1/72 kits shown, the lineart Hikaru colour scheme looks a little silly, but those models are pure sex. again - http://rapidshare.com/users/4EJDD5 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=244 Edited July 6, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentCrossHairs Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Well I know I will not be collecting any more VF-1s,-11s,-19s,-22s,-23s. Yamato has to step there game up with new designs. Money is short and I am not buying the same thing a million times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cent Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I love how much shorter the nosecone is in battroid than fighter. I mean the same problem existed even for the VF-1s, but sheesh.. You think they could exaggerate the difference any more in the lineart there? =/ The fan-built kit just shows off how blargh the fighter-length nose would look like in battroid. =/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I love how much shorter the nosecone is in battroid than fighter. I mean the same problem existed even for the VF-1s, but sheesh.. You think they could exaggerate the difference any more in the lineart there? =/ The fan-built kit just shows off how blargh the fighter-length nose would look like in battroid. =/. I think it would help if they didn't have the nose sticking out and angled forward they way they do. That's not how it is in the lineart and there's really no reason to do it like that. They really should have done a better job positioning the lower torso, it looks like the whole things falling over. Also I HATE what they did with the lower legs/nacelles. Basically if the toy fallows the line art closer it should be better looking overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Those VF-4 pics....so smexy.....hurry up yamato! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cent Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Yea, the modelers really took a lot of liberty in making their kit, some of it just doesn't even follow line art at all... They just kinda wanted to do what they thought looked cool. The feet are entirely different for some reason. Not quite sure why, since you'd think that be one of the more direct transitions from fighter. I do like, however, the model's waist-mounted gunpod (totally reminds me of the FMP Arbalest) and the little turbine gear waist you see behind the nosecone in battroid. Line art sometimes bugs me with their shading that deliberately covers up the nitty-gritty mechanical detail that you'd see in a normal lighting condition. Sure it provides a much cleaner look that's more appealing, but it doesn't realistically reflect what even a non-transforming model would have to look like. I do think that Yamato can do a better job sticking to the lineart, but this will be one of their tougher challenges for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC25 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hopfully someone work at Yamato read this forum regularly. I want VF-2SS and VF-4. I am kinda sick and tired seeing so many VF-1 right now. I love the VF-1, but put some new deisgn out between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 So. According to the poll which Graham started last year. Yamato went with the least popular options. It's obviously based off of number of repaints they can milk. Right? VF-19 with 24 votes (8.19%) = Getting 1st/mid 2010 VF-17 with 40 votes (13.65%) = Getting 2nd/late 2010 VF-0D with 55 votes (18.77%) = ? VF-4 with 82 votes (27.99%) = ? VF-2SS with 92 votes (31.40%) = ? We're left with the VF-0D, VF-2SS, and VF-4 in 2011 and 2012. The VF-2SS can obviously be milked. This is also somewhat true for the VF-0D. I have a feeling the VF-4 will be dead last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 With choices like the VF-0D, VF-2SS, and VF-4, its hard to tell which one my wallet, I mean I want. But I'd have to go VF-2SS+SAP 1st, then the 0D & VF-4. I love the VF-4 fighter mode, but the Battroid never sat well with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Has the VF-17 been confirmed?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I love the VF-4 fighter mode, but the Battroid never sat well with me. That seems to be the popular opinion. I've never really understood it. I've always found that the VF-4 has one of the most awesome battroid designs. It's a great contrast. The fighter is sleek and beautiful, the battroid is massive and powerful looking. I sure hope we get one, the sooner the better. Of course, ideally, I'd love to see Yamato release every single VF design, even the ones I'm not personally too keen on. Those are few and far between, tho. The VF-4 is at the top of my wish list. I don't know that it's been confirmed, but I've heard a lot of rumblings about a Yamato VF-17 on the forum lately. Will be great if it's coming. The VF-17 would be second on my list out of the choices in the quoted poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'd probably get one. Not a big fan and definitely underwhelmed by it's non-fighter modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
505thAirborne Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 That seems to be the popular opinion. I've never really understood it. I've always found that the VF-4 has one of the most awesome battroid designs. It's a great contrast. The fighter is sleek and beautiful, the battroid is massive and powerful looking. I sure hope we get one, the sooner the better. Of course, ideally, I'd love to see Yamato release every single VF design, even the ones I'm not personally too keen on. Those are few and far between, tho. The VF-4 is at the top of my wish list. I don't know that it's been confirmed, but I've heard a lot of rumblings about a Yamato VF-17 on the forum lately. Will be great if it's coming. The VF-17 would be second on my list out of the choices in the quoted poll. Hey Radd, don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the VF-4. I think for some its simply they do not like the Battroid design end of story. I like it, but because its the most unseen fighter in any Macross series (minus its few seconds shown in Flashback 2012) I'm just used to seeing it as a super sleek fighter. I'll bet a millions bucks if I had it, we ever get a VF-4 1/60, I'll probably be a huge fan of the Battroid mode and leave it that way!! As for a VF-17, I have the old Bandai 1/65 version and the 1/144 model, YAMATO is going to really have to wow me over, as this is a Design I am not to fond of..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excillon Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 No. Given their track record over the last few years I'm postive the 1st wave would be f***ed up somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macrossnake Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 This thread make me sad. I know that Yamato will never do a 1/60 VF-4 because they don't think selling a few hundred of 1/60 VF-4 would be profitable... (unlike VF-1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDClip Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I don't know if i would trust Yamato to make a VF-4. It is a very slender design with a fairly complex transformation with many moving parts. With the durability problems that yamato has been having of late, i could see a VF-4 toy being problematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valid Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Love how the stowed the GU at the back, so damn cool! Ahh hurry up Yamato or Bandai. http://rapidshare.com/users/4EJDD5 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=244 WOW cool ... who produce this model? is it kit? or a toys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I don't know if i would trust Yamato to make a VF-4. It is a very slender design with a fairly complex transformation with many moving parts. With the durability problems that yamato has been having of late, i could see a VF-4 toy being problematic. I know, I was so pissed when my VF-11 broke into 10 pieces then burst into flames. /sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent-GHQ Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Though I wanted the VF-2SS, I'll take anything new other than a VF-1 at this point. Bring it on Yamato! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 don't know much about the cartoon it comes from but all the pics here make it look pretty damn cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Yamato made the VB-6 and that was only in a video game at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I am confused. Can someone tell me the excitement here? Fighter mode gets a 9.2 on design and coolness, while battroid is at about a 3.1. Its a mess -- a totally jumbled go-bottish design. Its not menacing, tough looking or any other positive adjective (IMO). OTHER than its a Macross item that's gotten little love over the years . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 It's obvious Yamato has no love for the VF-4, they've even made an ugly pink VF-3 in their 1/200 line but no hint of a VF-4 anywhere, there's no license excuse, they have the VF-X license and the VF-4 was there has the VF-17 been confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I am confused. Can someone tell me the excitement here? Fighter mode gets a 9.2 on design and coolness, while battroid is at about a 3.1. Its a mess -- a totally jumbled go-bottish design. Its not menacing, tough looking or any other positive adjective (IMO). OTHER than its a Macross item that's gotten little love over the years . . . Not everyone agrees with that assessment. Like I said above, I think it has one of the better battroid designs. Hands down better than the YF-19, the VF-25, or the VF-17. I don't see how it can be called jumbled or go-bottish. Fan-made kitbashes notwithstanding it's got a pretty clean, if bulky, battroid design. Of course, there's a saying about opinions. Not to mention the fighter mode is a popular favourite even if opinions on the battroid go the whole range. It's obvious Yamato has no love for the VF-4, they've even made an ugly pink VF-3 in their 1/200 line but no hint of a VF-4 anywhere, there's no license excuse, they have the VF-X license and the VF-4 was there I've never thought licensing was that simple. There's a LOT of VFs in the VF-X games. Yamato has not had license to make all of them. It seems to me that what VFs are attached to a license is determined by where that Valkyrie makes its first appearance. The VF-17 appears in the VF-X games, but you need the Macross 7 license to do a VF-17 toy. The VF-4 appears in VF-X, but I suspect you need the Flashback 2012 license to do a toy based on it. I wouldn't be surprised if variants (VF-22, VF-11C, VF-171) are more complex than that, probably requiring several licenses (where the original design first appears, and the subsequent variant) or some wheeling and dealing with license holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrinG Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Not everyone agrees with that assessment. Like I said above, I think it has one of the better battroid designs. Hands down better than the YF-19, the VF-25, or the VF-17. I don't see how it can be called jumbled or go-bottish. Fan-made kitbashes notwithstanding it's got a pretty clean, if bulky, battroid design. Oh - I do agree with you that this battroid design may be better than others, so that let's you know what I think of them. As for go-bottish, I feel like the head and entire legs are lacking in what you may call creativity, or any sophisticated design -- or just coolness factor. The 'jumbled' comment comes from not being able to tell what parts you're viewing during the first 5 seconds of looking at the battroid mode (chest up). I also do not like the wings dangling right over the arms where most of the combat action takes place. Shoulder guards are good but any action will likely result in not being able to take off again (original vf hides the wings and tailfins out of the way). And do we want to even talk about the nose cone? Anyway - its was very cool in the original series - as a model being zoomed around in fighter mode . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 the VF-4 only appears in FB2012 and VF-X, I assume Yamato had some issue releasing some Macross 7 Valks if BanDai at that moment lock the 1/60 scale or the vf itself, but Yamato somehow has happily released the VF-19A raven scheme several times as far as I know, nobody has license to release the VF-4 a lot of people dislike the battroid design (I don't), since it was a retcon Kawamori did for the VF-X game, the VF-4 was originally only designed to be a fighter, it was never supposed to transform, Yamato could make a non transforming VF-4 with plenty of gimmick and a lot of people would be happy with it unless they somehow find a way to charge 200+ or make it a bloody online exclusive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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