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You guys are both wrong.

Dee was the Cylon God. Cally was one the Final Five. They brought her back in the middle of Season 4. It was the wholly-crap moment of that season.

Were we all watching the same show? Sheesh...

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my comment was tagged but your reply wasn't tagged which contained a "spoiler" but I tagged it when I quoted you... not that any of it matters since those are all LIES. :lol:

I didn't see it any of it anyway, I don't think. At least, I don't recall reading anything that made my eyes bug out.

Any idea when it'll be safe to read them, though? End of Season 3? End of the series?

(And by the way...since I'm asking questions that can be safely answered, anyone know why Season 2 was split into two DVD sets, but Season 3 is all in one?)

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I didn't see it any of it anyway, I don't think. At least, I don't recall reading anything that made my eyes bug out.

Any idea when it'll be safe to read them, though? End of Season 3? End of the series?

(And by the way...since I'm asking questions that can be safely answered, anyone know why Season 2 was split into two DVD sets, but Season 3 is all in one?)

Probably safest to avoid them all until Episode 17-18 of season 4... On the bright side you'll get to see Razor soon, and that's a treat. :)

As for the split in season 2 DVD releases... there was a fairly lengthy mid-season break (Sept-Jan) back when mid-season breaks were relatively rare, so they released the first half on DVD during the break to keep the ravenous masses happy (well, that and it was a great cash grab for a show at the height of it's popularity...). S3 was shown without any major breaks.

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I didn't see it any of it anyway, I don't think. At least, I don't recall reading anything that made my eyes bug out.

Any idea when it'll be safe to read them, though? End of Season 3? End of the series?

(And by the way...since I'm asking questions that can be safely answered, anyone know why Season 2 was split into two DVD sets, but Season 3 is all in one?)

Yeah, somewhere near end of season 4... :p

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PAs for the split in season 2 DVD releases... there was a fairly lengthy mid-season break (Sept-Jan) back when mid-season breaks were relatively rare, so they released the first half on DVD during the break to keep the ravenous masses happy (well, that and it was a great cash grab for a show at the height of it's popularity...). S3 was shown without any major breaks.

Ah, that explains it. Thank you. ^_^

Just finished watching "Dirty Hands." I find it a little tough to swallow that Baltar would be embraced as a champion of the people, but I guess if he writes eloquently and convincingly enough, people would be swayed into buying into his words, if not his history or actions.

Actually, I really, really liked this episode. I liked it because it wasn't a science fiction story.

I criticized the '78 series for not having writers capable of telling science fiction stories (just cowboy and WWII plots with a sci-fi facelift), but the writers (and the designers) in the new series have flexed their sci-fi writing muscles plenty of times at this point, and it's nice to see some different kinds of stories as well. And the questions of "Who makes the fleet really RUN? What are their lives like?" is one that often gets ignored, because it's not flashy or exciting. But (and I'm not a socialist, but I can't think of any way to say this without it sounding like socialist rhetoric (so no political debates please)) there is, or should be, a nobility that comes with something as basic as fuel refining or algae processing.

This episode captured that nobility well, and presented a rather vital philosophical debate, with both sides presented equally well. One can completely understand the workers' need to have their voices heard, and one can also understand the brass's need to make sure their orders are followed and everything runs as smoothly as possible.

Hard questions about labor are not often asked in science fiction (or any kind of generally "escapist" stories), and so it's not only surprising to see the addressed, but to see them addressed well.

That's what I love about this show: it's so...chewy sometimes. :D

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Okay...

Well, Starbuck is clearly not dead, but between gas-giant gravity below, no atmosphere above, and the Viper flying into pieces, I have no idea HOW she'll survive.

But they can't dangle a plot thread like "Kara Thrace and her Special Destiny" and just leave it unresolved like this.

But damn, do I feel bad for Adama's model ship. He's been working on that thing since, what, Season 1?

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I criticized the '78 series for not having writers capable of telling science fiction stories (just cowboy and WWII plots with a sci-fi facelift), but the writers (and the designers) in the new series have flexed their sci-fi writing muscles plenty of times at this point, and it's nice to see some different kinds of stories as well. And the questions of "Who makes the fleet really RUN? What are their lives like?" is one that often gets ignored, because it's not flashy or exciting. But (and I'm not a socialist, but I can't think of any way to say this without it sounding like socialist rhetoric (so no political debates please)) there is, or should be, a nobility that comes with something as basic as fuel refining or algae processing.This episode captured that nobility well, and presented a rather vital philosophical debate, with both sides presented equally well. One can completely understand the workers' need to have their voices heard, and one can also understand the brass's need to make sure their orders are followed and everything runs as smoothly as possible.

Don't worry, Adam Smith, groundlayer of the princles of the market, captured the nobility of the working man very elegantly ^_^ :

"The uniform, constant and uninterrupted effort of every man to better his condition, the principle from which public and national, as well as private opulence is originally derived, is frequently powerful enough to maintain the natural progress of things toward improvement, in spite both of the extravagance of government, and of the greatest errors of administration. Like the unknown principle of animal life, it frequently restores health and vigour to the constitution, in spite, not only of the disease, but of the absurd prescriptions of the doctor."

Hard questions about labor are not often asked in science fiction (or any kind of generally "escapist" stories), and so it's not only surprising to see the addressed, but to see them addressed well.
In fairness, I don't think it's always needed, for example, Star Trek uses the "horn of plenty" story device and looks at a utopian society where people no longer need to work to provide for their material well being. Exploring a society that works on different priciples from our own is one of the attractive sides of Sci-fi.

BSG on the other hand does a great job in exploring the human condition in dark circumstances.

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But damn, do I feel bad for Adama's model ship. He's been working on that thing since, what, Season 1?

Anyone who's ever built a model feels for that ship, and Adama. When the series was originally aired I often felt like I was the only one who realized just how much effort went into such a thing. (and model ships are probably THE most time-consuming of all, when rigged) (which is why I've never built a model sailing ship---too daunting)

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Okay...

Well, Starbuck is clearly not dead, but between gas-giant gravity below, no atmosphere above, and the Viper flying into pieces, I have no idea HOW she'll survive.

But they can't dangle a plot thread like "Kara Thrace and her Special Destiny" and just leave it unresolved like this.

But damn, do I feel bad for Adama's model ship. He's been working on that thing since, what, Season 1?

It would be interesting to note that wasn't originally in the script. Improvization on Olmos's part.

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Well, Starbuck is clearly not dead, but between gas-giant gravity below, no atmosphere above, and the Viper flying into pieces, I have no idea HOW she'll survive.

But they can't dangle a plot thread like "Kara Thrace and her Special Destiny" and just leave it unresolved like this.

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Yeeeah... fun fact: The ship being destroyed was improvised by EJO... and the ship a museum quality piece that was only being rented for the show. The replacement cost was apparently up in the hundreds of thousands.

Lol, oops. No wonder those dvd box sets are such a rip-off...

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:lol:

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Not quite like Gamlin, no...

*sigh*

Guess I'll find out sooner or later, won't I? :)

And, uh...wow...that's intense about the model ship. It looked pretty damn classy, but I figured it was just a cheap mock-up or something. That Edward James Olmos would destroy such a beautiful ship...I'm surprised he didn't get death threats from Patrick-O'Brian-reading old men. :lol:

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And, uh...wow...that's intense about the model ship. It looked pretty damn classy, but I figured it was just a cheap mock-up or something. That Edward James Olmos would destroy such a beautiful ship...I'm surprised he didn't get death threats from Patrick-O'Brian-reading old men. :lol:

I think I want to join Team Edward after finding out about that.

http://io9.com/5417371/the-only-team-edwar...youll-ever-need

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Yeah but my name's not in the credits either, and I'm not dead...

Not only that, but Grace Park's and Tricia Helfer's names are still in the credits, and they've both died. Several times, in fact.

Just finished watching "The Son Also Rises." Seems to be set up for the season finale, which appears like it will center around Baltar's trial. Season 2 proved to me, though, that where the story APPEARS to be going isn't necessarily where it WILL be going.

I'll probably watch the last two episodes of the season tomorrow.

And my DVD provider didn't show up tonight, so I guess next week, I'll just finish up watching the original series. (Cripes, this'll be the fourth time I've rented that DVD. I could probably buy it with the money I've spent renting it...but why would I want to keep it?)

I like Baltar's lawyer. He's cool.

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Yeah but my name's not in the credits either, and I'm not dead...

Well silly, I didn't say Katie Sackoff was dead. :)

Not only that, but Grace Park's and Tricia Helfer's names are still in the credits, and they've both died. Several times, in fact.

So then she must be dead ;)

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Yes, Romo Lampkin rocks. But the most important thing is that Racetrack is ok and she didn't get any scars from the explosion. :D

PS---this is one of my fave moments in the series: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/File:Ada..._b-day_card.jpg

Yeah, RaceTrack is hot...

but she turned out to be SUCH a COLD HEARTED BITCH in the end

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I thought that Showboat was the Hottest of them all though.

Chris

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Actually I was saying that you said that Grace and Tricias charaters have died multiple times and they DIDN'T remove their names and their charaters obviously aren't dead. So if they took Katies name out after her character died then maybe they are serious about it ;)

Doesn't matter anyway her ghost kills Adama in the end anyway.

OOOPs did I say that :D

Chris

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Doesn't matter anyway her ghost kills Adama in the end anyway.

OOOPs did I say that :D

Chris

Oh, I figured that would happen. Seriously, it's obvious...the clues are everywhere.

And I predict the Cylons are going to reach Earth first, but, luckily, Will Smith is there. He'll shout "Welcome to Earth!" and punch Grace Park in the mouth.

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Oh, I figured that would happen. Seriously, it's obvious...the clues are everywhere.

And I predict the Cylons are going to reach Earth first, but, luckily, Will Smith is there. He'll shout "Welcome to Earth!" and punch Grace Park in the mouth.

Not only do the cylons reach earth first but they do so by going back in time and turning it into a giant mechanical planet and then the galactica has to go back even further in time and stop the cylon god

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