evirus Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 (edited) Figured some would find this interesting Edited March 10, 2008 by azrael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross73 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I share the same feelings. Maybe they should make it a series that competes with Heroes. Hiro? What Hiro? This is Rosarch!! interesting yes pretty... hmmm.... not so much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evirus Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 interesting yes pretty... hmmm.... not so much . yah I'm hoping thats just the rough concept model. also hoping LEGO markets that in America... probably not(might just be a DIY thing the guy did). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Kawamori likes to use LEGO to rough out his variable mecha concepts. It is not going to be a LEGO set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 LEGO really messed up not hiring him to design the Exo Force sets, which are now being cancelled. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) LEGO really messed up not hiring him to design the Exo Force sets, which are now being cancelled. Vostok 7 Yeah, but he did officially do some stuff called Van-Force with the Exo-force kits that came out, and ToysRus in Japan sold them in special Kawamori packaging. I believe there were custom decals made for the Kawamori versions, too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/minami/80164968/in/photostream/ I think originally they were just concepts he did for Figure Oh magazine and then Lego became officially interested. Don't quote me on that, though. Edited March 10, 2008 by Renato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Here's a link showing one of the Kawamori bundle sets. http://pony-hp3.web.infoseek.co.jp/RAIDEN.htm And some special Kawamori Lego event at a mall a while back, check out the small pic: http://www.grandberrymall.com/catalog/express_pdf/0608_1.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Very cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Does anyone know if any special parts were made for KM when he did the Van-force sets? If not all you need is the scan of the instruction set and decals and you could buy the parts to make em on the Lego website. I cant say at the mo (as I'm at work) if my favorite Lego instruction site has them already or not, chances are Grand Admiral will know for sure. Edited March 11, 2008 by big F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 It looks to me like the bundle just includes 3 of the standard Exo Force sets from 2006, so all you would need are the instructions and stickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Yeah according to the writer of the blog it seems like there are a few areas where more or better parts could have been used, but it cannot be helped because Kawamori was limited to the pieces in those kits. He goes on to say that this design would have been much better and looked more "complete" had Kawamori had full control over exactly what pieces he could use. Maybe some day...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) As you mentioned Vostok 7, I think LEGO would have definitely done themselves a service by contracting Kawamori to design the 2007 EF line, or a different line of transforming mecha. As Grand Admiral can tell you, LEGO puts new concept sets through some rigorous testing before release, so some of his ideas may not have been compatible, but surely he could have produced some impressive models nonetheless. If nothing else, a UCS mini-fig scale transforming plane (maybe a cargo plane, as LEGO might frown on a fighter) would be uber-groovy. Regarding the VAN-Force, no special pieces were used or created apart from those in the official Exo-Force sets. More's the pity, as I'd love to see some smaller ratcheting joints made. The friction technic pins work to a point, but can't bear much weight. The current ball joints are likewise. Yeah, I'm a LEGO geek. Edited March 12, 2008 by M'Kyuun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 As you mentioned Vostok 7, I think LEGO would have definitely done themselves a service by contracting Kawamori to design the 2007 EF line, or a different line of transforming mecha. As Grand Admiral can tell you, LEGO puts new concept sets through some rigorous testing before release, so some of his ideas may not have been compatible, but surely he could have produced some impressive models nonetheless. If nothing else, a UCS mini-fig scale transforming plane (maybe a cargo plane, as LEGO might frown on a fighter) would be uber-groovy. I knew about the Van Force stuff, but I wouldn't call that "official LEGO". I find it funny that LEGO has been classically "anti-war" and yet they have been successful at the Star Wars line, and of course came out with the Exo Force line (but that's vs. Robots, so it's OK ). Unfortunately, latest word is the Exo Force line is being canceled soon. I think it was pretty good for what it was. The first few mechas were a little weak in design but some of the latest ones have been shaping up pretty nicely. The Aero Booster set for instance looks like something you'd find in Gundam: Just imagine what Kawamori-san could have done for the line, though. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Just imagine what Kawamori-san could have done for the line, though. Vostok 7 I do, and then I go to my dark 'Why God?' corner and cry silently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Didnt Kawamori design something for exo force? I remember seeing something on these forums about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Didnt Kawamori design something for exo force? I remember seeing something on these forums about it. Yeah, it was mentioned earlier in this thread. It wasn't official, but he made some custom transforming designs from a few of the early Exo-Force kits and they were packaged together with building instructions and stickers so they could be made. It was a limited Japan-only deal. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Exo Force is being cancelled because the most recent line of sets aren't selling well. My personal opinion is that the sets were a little too bizarre and lacked the cohesive design of the first run of sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Yeah, the newest kits sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Yeah, the newest kits sucked. Actually, the 2008 line is pretty decent. The 2007 line didn't do well, spelling its doom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 (edited) Actually, the 2008 line is pretty decent. The 2007 line didn't do well, spelling its doom. The marketing folks at LEGO seem to think that the most recent line didn't sell well because kids didn't understand the story. I think they should've had better sets. Nobody buys a LEGO set for the story. Edited March 16, 2008 by Grand Admiral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hope Kawamori-san gets the go ahead from LEGO to do a proper macross line. How cool would that be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hope Kawamori-san gets the go ahead from LEGO to do a proper macross line. How cool would that be. There is very little chance of that. We've discussed this point before, which you can read by starting with my post in this thread: http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?s=&a...st&p=551136 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Nobody buys a LEGO set for the story. Exactly I always thought the story was you build the kit as per the instructions. Then mod it and finally build something much better with all the bits you have in your Lego box. At least thats how it was for me in the 70's and 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 The marketing folks at LEGO seem to think that the most recent line didn't sell well because kids didn't understand the story. I think they should've had better sets. Nobody buys a LEGO set for the story. I heartily agree. I've never followed the story at all. Kids might follow the story, but ultimately, I think it's what's on the box that sells the kit. While a few 2007 sets were ok, there were some real letdowns, ie the big battle wagon( I forget the actual name). Too, the 2006 line benefitted from the addition of really well made alternate models that sometimes looked better than the primary, as well as mecha created from the combination of 2 specific sets, all with online instructions. In other words, the first line was about building and possibilities with the sets themselves, backed by a story. The 2007 line did away with alternates, much like the whole of LEGO sets now, and replaced a good gimmick with code pieces that one must look up on the LEGO website. The codes, as I understand it, implied additional storyline abilities of the mecha, rather than contributing to the building process. So, by abandoning the very essence of what LEGO produces and promotes, a promising line failed. The 2008 sets are much improved, but too late to save the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) I heartily agree. I've never followed the story at all. Kids might follow the story, but ultimately, I think it's what's on the box that sells the kit. While a few 2007 sets were ok, there were some real letdowns, ie the big battle wagon( I forget the actual name). Too, the 2006 line benefitted from the addition of really well made alternate models that sometimes looked better than the primary, as well as mecha created from the combination of 2 specific sets, all with online instructions. In other words, the first line was about building and possibilities with the sets themselves, backed by a story. The 2007 line did away with alternates, much like the whole of LEGO sets now, and replaced a good gimmick with code pieces that one must look up on the LEGO website. The codes, as I understand it, implied additional storyline abilities of the mecha, rather than contributing to the building process. So, by abandoning the very essence of what LEGO produces and promotes, a promising line failed. The 2008 sets are much improved, but too late to save the line. The alternates of the original sets looked AMAZING. In fact, I actually had bought those original sets because the boxes said that instructions for the alternates would be posted on the LEGO site. Never happened Vostok 7 Edited March 27, 2008 by Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Admiral Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 As much as I love LEGO, there are times that I think the company is successful in spite of what they do, and not because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danth Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 The alternates of the original sets looked AMAZING. In fact, I actually had bought those original sets because the boxes said that instructions for the alternates would be posted on the LEGO site. Never happened Me too! Alternative models can really sell Lego sets, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 As much as I love LEGO, there are times that I think the company is successful in spite of what they do, and not because of it. However, I'm glad, as I know you are, that they have given the fans an unprecedented amount of influence over the direction of their products over the last decade, and perhaps that has worked in their favor. BTW, belated congrats on being selected to design the new Factory Space sets, a very neat approach by TLC to renew the Space theme. The only thing I lament is that Factory's pallette is still very limited, although I can understand why from TLC's POV. Still, the Space theme will definitely enhance the existing pallette..I look forward to the next upgrade on LDD, and my thanks to you ,Admiral, and Mr. Sandlin, for taking part in making that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Galahad® Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I saw this in Brickshelf http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3495336 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 hahaha awesome! Sheryl looks like medusa with the hair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Awesome. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF18 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Now these are impressive: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=357536 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizophrenicMC Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Firstly, EPIC. Second: Xman's VF-1|1/42|PT Steve Vernava's VF-1S|1/18|PT Bernard Wiseman's VF-1S|Scale Unknown|PT John Draez's YF-19|Scale Unknown|PT Sebastio Neto's VF-1S|Scale Unknown|PT Sebastio Neto's VF-22|Scale Unknown|PT In a crime against humanity, Gla Gla's VB-6 Koenig Monster has been deleted in some screwup by Mechahub. Non-Variable: Sebastio Neto's Ghost X-9|Scale Unknown Zach Sweigart's VF-4|Scale Unknown Stephen Chao's YF-19|Micro Scale Stephen Chao's VF-171|Micro Scale Stephen Chao's VF-1| Micro Scale Stephen Chao's VF-25|Micro Scale As a note, I only took aircraft, not Destroids. Had I, this would be a bigger list. It stands as a testament to the awesome of Lego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Awesome micro stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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