protostar8 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 So, how much does one of these cost now? I was hoping to spend somewhere around $70 for a used one that's complete, so how realistic is it that I'll get one for that within the space of a few months of looking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDClip Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 So, how much does one of these cost now? I was hoping to spend somewhere around $70 for a used one that's complete, so how realistic is it that I'll get one for that within the space of a few months of looking? I haven't been into macross toys that long, but based on what i've seen that'll be impossible. Mint in box ones go for at least 250. And since the numbers were quite limited, they're really hard to come buy. But, good luck and if you find one for that price let me be the first one to know where.(I'd love to get one, too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 you can get one around that price , but you just have to be on the look out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Wow, I haven't been paying attention to prices of the 1/60 VF-1's...but when did they skyrocket to such levels?! I had been under the impression that after the 1/48's came on the scene, people were unloading their 1/60's. What happened? Because there are just too many 1/48 variants and reissues and reissues of reissues out now, and people, fickle as they are, are finding newfound love for the OG 1/60's? Because it IS nice to have diecast metal valks? Because the Macross Zero and Plus toys are all 1/60, and now 1/48 just seems like a random, albeit interesting, detour on Yamato's part? Anyway, I am looking at my 1/60 collection with different eyes now. Strange, they ARE quite nice... By the way, I am not being sarcastic...I am really curious as to why the surge in perceived values? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueeyes Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) I honestly don't think there has been that much of a surge. I think RDClip made a mistake when he posted and thought the original poster was looking for a 1/48 Max Super. For the amount he mentioned ($250.00), you could easily get both Yamato 1/60 M&M Supers. (The most I've seen the pair of 1/60's listed for was about $300.00 and they didn't sell). Edited March 25, 2007 by trueblueeyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDClip Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 I honestly don't think there has been that much of a surge. I think RDClip made a mistake when he posted and thought the original poster was looking for a 1/48 Max Super. For the amount he mentioned ($250.00), you could easily get both Yamato 1/60 M&M Supers. (The most I've seen the pair of 1/60's listed for was about $300.00 and they didn't sell). Actually that was a slight typo, i meant $150. That's the lowest i've seen then (although i'm only talking ebay here) There's the set of Max and Millia that seems to constantly on for $350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) Ahh, ok. That makes more sense. Even so, it seems the 1/60's have held up in their value. I remember when the 1/48's were first introduced, people pronounced the death of the 1/60. But these days, there are plenty of people who PREFER the 1/60s. Not just for the completeness of the line across Macross properties, but for the toy's intrinsic qualities as well....diecast metal content, sleek fighter sculpt, etc. I was reading a thread over at Robot-Japan, and over there it seemed a good 75% preferred the 1/60 line. Interesting. Edited March 26, 2007 by emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protostar8 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 Ahh, ok. That makes more sense. Even so, it seems the 1/60's have held up in their value. I remember when the 1/48's were first introduced, people pronounced the death of the 1/60. But these days, there are plenty of people who PREFER the 1/60s. Not just for the completeness of the line across Macross properties, but for the toys intrinsic qualities as well....diecast metal content, sleek fighter sculpt, etc. I was reading a thread over at Robot-Japan, and over there it seemed a good 75% preferred the 1/60 line. Interesting. Thanks for the input. I've seen the $150 Max on Ebay, but I haven't seen it sell, which lead me to think it was overpriced b/c I remember way back when I could've gotten one on Ebay for around $70. I was hoping the 1/48's would've kept that price pretty steady. Again, thanks for the info and I'll just keep watch. Does anyone know how much people selling them on this board usually list them for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowyunskinny Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I sold eight 1/60's on ebay at the beginning of the month. Here's what they went for if you're interested: VT-1 Super Ostrich MISB $122.50 VF-1S Roy Strike Valk MISB $122.50 VF-1J Miria Super Valk MISB $137.50 VF-1J Max Super Valk MISB $138.00 VF-1J Hikaru Super Valk MISB $91.00 VF-1D Two Seater MISB $92.00 VF-1A Max MISB $61.80 VE-1 Elintseeker MISB $103.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Wow, it looks like the 1/60 is becoming collectible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protostar8 Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) I sold eight 1/60's on ebay at the beginning of the month. Here's what they went for if you're interested: VT-1 Super Ostrich MISB $122.50 VF-1S Roy Strike Valk MISB $122.50 VF-1J Miria Super Valk MISB $137.50 VF-1J Max Super Valk MISB $138.00 VF-1J Hikaru Super Valk MISB $91.00 VF-1D Two Seater MISB $92.00 VF-1A Max MISB $61.80 VE-1 Elintseeker MISB $103.00 Thanks for the prices. Yours are all MISB, so I'm hoping that a non-MISB will be considerably less. I was watching a VF-1J Hikaru Super Valk on ebay that ended today or yesterday and it only went for $26 +$10 shipping and was only missing one canopy part that you could easily get from a broken one. That's why I don't like Ebay pricing, it fluctuates too much to tell what the real price is. But I do appreciate your MISB prices b/c that gives me a solid gauge as to what price range to expect for a non-MISB. With Transformers, I know MISB can be 2-10 times more expensive than loose. Edited March 26, 2007 by protostar8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDClip Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) I was watching a VF-1J Hikaru Super Valk on ebay that ended today or yesterday and it only went for $26 +$10 shipping and was only missing one canopy part that you could easily get from a broken one. why why why didn't you buy it??? (sorry i'm obsessed with getting good deals) I miss most of the good deals because many sellers won't ship to canada. but if i ever saw one for that price, i'd jump on it. Edited March 26, 2007 by RDClip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) That's why I don't like Ebay pricing, it fluctuates too much to tell what the real price is. What other pricing is there? The real price is the market price, and all market prices fluctuate over time. Once items are no longer available in stores, historical MSRP's are out the window. And all that matters is what people are willing to pay. I know when I am in the market for something, for example vintage Popy Jumbo Machinders, I will track closing auction prices on eBay and Yahoo Japan for months...taking into account the condition of the toy, the repuation of the seller, etc. Holds true if I want to list something for sale here in the forums as well. If I don't do the due diligence by observing market conditions, than I am just arbitrarily pulling a number out of the air. Would anyone do that when buying or selling stocks, or a home? I would say the $26 1/60 you observed was an appropriate "market price" for an opened, incomplete item. Actually, I'd say it was a bit low, but deals happen every now and again, and congratulations to the lucky buyer able to benefit from these statistical outliers! Meanwhile, I would say the prices of chowyunskinny's sales are appropriate "market prices" for MISB 1/60's. The other alternative would be to scan the older threads here for listed prices, but I'm pretty sure those prices are benchmarked off of comparable eBay sales. I'm actually VERY glad the 1/60's are retaining their value. I've always liked their diecast content, and sleek fighter lines. Edited March 26, 2007 by emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protostar8 Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 What other pricing is there? The real price is the market price, and all market prices fluctuate over time. Once items are no longer available in stores, historical MSRP's are out the window. And all that matters is what people are willing to pay. I know when I am in the market for something, for example vintage Popy Jumbo Machinders, I will track closing auction prices on eBay and Yahoo Japan for months...taking into account the condition of the toy, the repuation of the seller, etc. Holds true if I want to list something for sale here in the forums as well. If I don't do the due diligence by observing market conditions, than I am just arbitrarily pulling a number out of the air. Would anyone do that when buying or selling stocks, or a home? I would say the $26 1/60 you observed was an appropriate "market price" for an opened, incomplete item. Actually, I'd say it was a bit low, but deals happen every now and again, and congratulations to the lucky buyer able to benefit from these statistical outliers! Meanwhile, I would say the prices of chowyunskinny's sales are appropriate "market prices" for MISB 1/60's. The other alternative would be to scan the older threads here for listed prices, but I'm pretty sure those prices are benchmarked off of comparable eBay sales. I'm actually VERY glad the 1/60's are retaining their value. I've always liked their diecast content, and sleek fighter lines. I was referring to the fact that Ebay prices can often be inflated due to bid wars and not the actual value of the items. Instead, the item's final price can be way too high simply because the person didn't want to lose or the price can end up being too low. I like looking at the prices respectable members of a community offer their stuff for. I did try a few search terms, but I didn't come up with anything other than 1/48 scale Max's. Maybe I just didn't type in the right search term, but I did make an effort to find the information before I bothered people on the forum about it. I have seen this toy in several online stores, but the prices were nuts ($199 for the 1/60 Max!). So if anyone reads this and wants to let one go for around $70-75+shipping, drop me a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do not disturb Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 a most interesting read. oddly, i've held onto all my 1/60's and i've been slowly trying to sell off the majority of my 1/48's. with all the new releases, repaints, and reissue after reissue, i just feel no need to keep up with the jones's in regards to the 1/48 line. as far as the 1/60 max for $70, its ebay so you could end up picking it up for $10 or never find one under $100. its all a crap shoot, its all about how much someone is willing to pay for that particular item at that particular time. all you can do is hope no one is looking when you're looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichyX Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 so far y collection is 1/60 and my 1st 4 arrived a couple weeks back i got ostrich +fast pack cannon fodder elintseeker vf-11b is it (sorry still new to this lol) i paid £250 for the 4 all mib but have been opened and on display before, i didnt argue at the price as these are even harder to get here in the uk, im also looking for 1/60 max and miriya but luckily ive found them from the same seller and he has agreed to sell me them with a little bit of pestering lol and im paying £120 for the pair mib which i think is a good price for them they are out there though if you keep looking and you will get a bargain as im waiting on a full gbp armour set and 1/60 hikaru i won off ebay for £50 inc shipping from germany bargain i think keep looking they will turn up im still trying to find a max qua-rai now thats hard to get hold of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) You guys are definitely right about the crapshoot that is eBay! Well, any auction environment, right? Unfortunately, that's all we have to go on. In an ideal world, the eBay market would look like the stock market....deep and broad with insane volume, such that prices do reflect value (in theory haha). In the absence of that, I scan the prices, try to see if there are any trends, ignore the outliers, and make an educated guess. What else can one do? If nothing else, I look at current Buy it Now prices, then list at a discount here. Edited March 27, 2007 by emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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