Skull-1 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 If you boil the rubber and but the socket in it will stretch not split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do not disturb Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The way you tell it, the thing just fell apart in your hands through no fault or force on your part. I'm sorry, but that sounds highly unlikely. 425885[/snapback] so you're trying to tell us that you've never had anything break on you for no reason? hmmm, let me see the countless things that have broken through no fault or force of my own.... my sony stereo just broke recently. one minute it was working, next minute it stopped. it must've broken because i go jogging with it strapped to my back. my ps2 broke a little while ago too. one day i'm playing AC5, next day nadda. that must've broken when i took it deep sea diving with me. my TV doesn't work. it just sits there on my TV stand but for some reason it just stopped working. but i failed to mention that everytime i want to turn it on, i throw a brick at. i had this car, i took care of it real well, i changed the oil every 2500 miles, took it in twice a year for a check up, but for whatever reason, it just stopped running...oh wait i left out the part where i jumped it into the grand canyon. i'd roll my eyes right about now, but i broke the smilie button while making this post.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_e Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 (edited) my sony stereo just broke recently. one minute it was working, next minute it stopped. it must've broken because i go jogging with it strapped to my back.my ps2 broke a little while ago too. one day i'm playing AC5, next day nadda. that must've broken when i took it deep sea diving with me. my TV doesn't work. it just sits there on my TV stand but for some reason it just stopped working. but i failed to mention that everytime i want to turn it on, i throw a brick at. i had this car, i took care of it real well, i changed the oil every 2500 miles, took it in twice a year for a check up, but for whatever reason, it just stopped running...oh wait i left out the part where i jumped it into the grand canyon. i'd roll my eyes right about now, but i broke the smilie button while making this post.... 425895[/snapback] You're using electronic devices and pieces of complex machinery with tons of moving parts in your attempt to discredit my original statement? ooooookay, whatever. so you're trying to tell us that you've never had anything break on you for no reason?425895[/snapback] No, I've never had any TOY break on me for no reason. There is always a reason. Edited August 17, 2006 by mister_e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do not disturb Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 my sony stereo just broke recently. one minute it was working, next minute it stopped. it must've broken because i go jogging with it strapped to my back.my ps2 broke a little while ago too. one day i'm playing AC5, next day nadda. that must've broken when i took it deep sea diving with me. my TV doesn't work. it just sits there on my TV stand but for some reason it just stopped working. but i failed to mention that everytime i want to turn it on, i throw a brick at. i had this car, i took care of it real well, i changed the oil every 2500 miles, took it in twice a year for a check up, but for whatever reason, it just stopped running...oh wait i left out the part where i jumped it into the grand canyon. i'd roll my eyes right about now, but i broke the smilie button while making this post.... 425895[/snapback] You're using electronic devices and pieces of complex machinery with tons of moving parts in your attempt to discredit my original statement? ooooookay, whatever. so you're trying to tell us that you've never had anything break on you for no reason?425895[/snapback] No, I've never had any TOY break on me for no reason. There is always a reason. 425905[/snapback] hey, i was just giving examples of things breaking through no fault of my own. you want a toy, okay how about the stupid toynami valk stand. people simply placed the valk on the stand, a few hours go by then bam! its broken. all these people with broken stands must be lying, its must be their fault because they used them as buttplugs, but they were too embarassed about it and left that out. yeah that must be it. ...damn broken smilie, i still can't roll my eyes at you....LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I've never had a toy break for no reason either. But I've had pieces not work right, like on my 1/48's. Okay, here everybody can throw as much poo at me as you'd like; I earned it. My Roy Focker that was in fighter mode and put at a very sharp angle sideways finally fell down. That little piece that everyone else has had tear... tore. So there you go. I suck. I'll admit it. But I do still like these toys! If you don't put them at that angle the stands are fine. And nothing on my toy broke when it hit (I suspect while I was asleep) and it was loaded with the heavy missiles I'll add. Now I can cheerfully try out my gorilla glue method and see how that works out. I'll also admit that the fact that the little piece broke is my fault. I shouldn't have expected that little piece to hold up in a pose like that. After all, it's just a cheapy stand side-bonus, not the actual toy. And Jenius; I agree with your marketing strategy criticism. Now I'll brace for the stoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoptimus Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Well I like these 1/100 valks but man the stand for fighter mode is crap. I had literally had it on the stand for maybe 2 hours when it crapped. My VF-1S Hikaru is in Battroid mode in the stand and it hasnt fallen in 2 weeks. It is just this "Ball Cup" piece that seems to be craptacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I'm seriously wondering how these stands are supposed to hold up fast-packed valks. I hope the people at toynami redesign the stand attachments and package them with the fastpacks. Then i'll be appeased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 New stand with fast packs. +$10 for redesign on top of whatever you pay for the fast packs. Just my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Maybe what they should do is make high quality stand and sell that seperate? And in its place, include FP with the valks? I don't really need the stand anyway as I want to place mine in battroid mode most of the time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I fixed the split-rubber piece with gorilla glue. It's stronger than it was before I fixed it, and now I can put it in "fighter mode" tilted to the side as long as I want. I might just purposely break all of those pieces on all my valks so I can fix'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Shame to hear about all the broken stands & parts ... I think I'll leave my stands in their boxes. Way cool, excellento boxes. WooHOO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaajin Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I fixed the split-rubber piece with gorilla glue. It's stronger than it was before I fixed it, and now I can put it in "fighter mode" tilted to the side as long as I want. I might just purposely break all of those pieces on all my valks so I can fix'em. 426025[/snapback] You dont have to do that. It'll break by itself. no worries call me a hater! aaajin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I just got the first set, but have only opened the Roy 1S thus far. My initial impressions? I think that it's a neat little toy. Fun to screw around with, and very posable... much more so than any Yamato I own (numbering 25 or so at last count). The sculpt is not that bad though - sure, the proportions are bit weird in a couple of places, but nothing that is a real deal breaker for me. Comparing it to some of my ARII 1/100 fighter models (widely recognized as the BEST 1/100 rendition of the Valkyrie), it is clear that the designers took some creative license with these, seeming necessitated by the fact that these are fully transformable... Except for the shoulders, which really do have no right being THAT big The length and wingspan are pretty close to the ARII, but the breadth of the legs and arms in fighter mode are much greater. The front fuselage also seems to have been scaled 'up' a bit. It still kicks the poo out of the old Taka/Bandai 1/100 in terms of appearance and posability though. I'll have to report back on durability later Now, to mount this sucker on its stand... Muhahhahhaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Anyone else try contacting Toynami about a replacement part yet? I emailed their customer service address a couple days ago but haven't heard back yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/magazines/mg_0398a2.jpg There's an example of a model with comparable dimensions in regards to intakes and shoulders. And I still think it looks cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Small update for me, I went ahead and mounted the 1S on its stand . The ballcup DID crack overnight (surprise, surprise), but it did not drop the fighter. I had it balanced pretty well on the stand, kind of in anticipation of the event after reading all the gripes here. No big deal though, I just put some white glue in the socket, popped the ball in, wiped off the excess and let it dry. Still holds just fine. I went ahead and opened up my Max and Hikaru 1As and put them on the stands too, but neither one of those has cracked yet. I still think that these are neat toys for what amounts to Banpresto money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensei Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Is there anyway of having some prophylactic reinforcement for the stands before you mount them? Save a lot of annoyance....then again, they should have made them properly to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I still think that these are neat toys for what amounts to Banpresto money. 426590[/snapback] Amen to that, brother. I like 'em so much, I already pre-ordered the second series. Nothing but 1J goddness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Yeah, I have the 1J s preordered too. I am hoping the fastpack sets land in the $10.00 or less region, but I won't hold my breath. They sure did look cool in the pics though. I don't know of any prophylactic fix for the ballcup on the stand... although some reinforced tape, cut to a thin strip and wrapped around the cup may do the trick... I'll have to try that one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I don't know of any prophylactic fix for the ballcup on the stand... although some reinforced tape, cut to a thin strip and wrapped around the cup may do the trick... I'll have to try that one out. 426601[/snapback] Why not buy replacement ball joints and polycaps from HLJ?? Less hassle and much better product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiriyu Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'm certain that you're right, NMB4M, but I'm cheap, and these are cheap toys after all If the tape trick doesn't work, I'd probably just display them on their feet, or landing gear, as appropriate... Though maybe, I can use some polycaps from some old ARII kits instead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 You saw pics of the fastpacks for these? Where? Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Okay, I found a site with pictures. Also, it seems the fastpacks will retail for 12.95 I hoped it would be less, but feared it would be more. Not sure what to say about the price. Here's the link. http://www.collectiondx.com/node/1033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 $12.95 for all three?? $12.95 for one would be pretty outrageous. There's not a whole lot to them, doesn't look like they have removeable panels or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT-102 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) You saw pics of the fastpacks for these? Where? Where? 426644[/snapback] There's pictures and discussion about fastpacks on page three of this thread. Rumor is that it will be $12.95 per pack. Edited August 20, 2006 by VT-102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The price will be justified, I'm sure, by the most fabulous packaging in all the land. Packging you will want to hand down to your children's children. Seriously though, I'm really looking forward to the fast packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull-1 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Geezus keeeerist you guys are really dense... I did this with all three of mine. Dip the f'ing socket in some boiling water and snap the ball in, moving it around the whole time. The rubber will stretch slightly and will NOT crack after it cools. Problem SOLVED. No glue. No fuss. No muss. At the end of the day you can always melt a new ball/socket from somewhere onto the stand and ditch the Toynami ball/socket if you want... But u guys are overthinking the heck out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 $12.95 for a 1/100 fast pack set?!?! Wow, that is pretty expensive. That's 1/2 the cost of the 1/100 valkyrie. Frack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Geezus keeeerist you guys are really dense...I did this with all three of mine. Dip the f'ing socket in some boiling water and snap the ball in, moving it around the whole time. The rubber will stretch slightly and will NOT crack after it cools. Problem SOLVED. No glue. No fuss. No muss. At the end of the day you can always melt a new ball/socket from somewhere onto the stand and ditch the Toynami ball/socket if you want... But u guys are overthinking the heck out of this. 426743[/snapback] The boiling thing only would work BEFORE the socket cracks though. As for melting a new ball/socket from somewhere, I have no idea what that means. I guess I'm too dense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Actually, I wonder if I could butcher my Revoltech EVA01 and bash one of the revoltech joints onto the stand...not a ball/socket joint, but it does have a wide range of motion and is more sturdy. Sorry EVA01, but I never loved you anyway... Edited August 21, 2006 by eriku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull-1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 If the socket has already cracked... Melt a socket from elsewhere onto the existing stand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) 426743[/snapback] The boiling thing only would work BEFORE the socket cracks though. As for melting a new ball/socket from somewhere, I have no idea what that means. I guess I'm too dense. 426809[/snapback] I'm too dense for that as well. (I'll stick to the gorilla glue) Edited August 21, 2006 by GutsAndCasca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull-1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Geezus guys have you never worked with molten plastic?! It is a common model building technique. Read up on it. JBWeld works better than Gorilla Glue any way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Geezus guys have you never worked with molten plastic?! It is a common model building technique. Read up on it.JBWeld works better than Gorilla Glue any way... 426914[/snapback] Never worked with molten plastic, unless you want to count me boiling my mouth pieces for kickboxing. So I'm not really in the know. Actually I'm completely ignorant. And I've never heard of JB weld. Any info on it I should know about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechafan Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) From the Website: Q: Is there anything that J-B Weld WON'T bond to?A: J-B Weld will not adhere to, or bond well to: * Any flexible rubber surface * Leather * Vinyl * Canvass * Polypropylene plastic * Polyethylene plastic I will be skipping this option. Well the bottom line is we should not have to go through all of this in the first place. Get rid of stand and lower price. Edited August 21, 2006 by Mechafan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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