Gatillero PR Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I'm more concerned about the articulation in batroid mode than the difference in fighter lineart. I 'm hoping for the same level of articulation of the 1/48 VF-1 and 1/60 VF-0. For me as long as it has perfect transformation and look practically good in all modes it doesn't have to match 100% the lineart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I need to go watch M+ again and get the exact time/frames that show the 'extra' piece in the YF-19's intake transformation sequence. It's not in Kawamori's drawings, but the animators figured out how to reconcile the different shapes. I mentioned it to Graham, but haven't gotten back to him on where it's shown. I'll try to do it tonight. Basically, the upper and lower halves of the intake split--the lower section forms the "hip" while the upper section becomes the "rear skirt armor". Have the red part separate from the blue part: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 (edited) I see what you mean David Hingtgen. Do the legs move up a bit as well or is it my eyes deceiving me? Now I gotta pop in M+ too now, just to see it better. lol addition: yep definitely seperated. Watch the fight at the end of episode 2, the upper part of the intake is behind and not attached to the legs. You can see many instants of the legs being seperate. addition2: Ah watching the VF-11 kicking ass in the first episode. Such awesomeness! Now that I think about it watching episode 3, if Yamato did a 1/60 VF-11 they could do the standard VF-11B, the deep space VF-11B (yeah I forgot what that squad was called), and the orange VF-11 drones (with minor reworking for the YF-19 type canard wings, although the battroid mode would look weird ) that the Ghost X-9 blows apart. But I'm looking too far ahead, gotta see how the new 19 does. Oh how I long to see some prototype pics! Edited July 4, 2006 by Sumdumgai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Watch for scenes showing the back of the battroid--then it's more obvious that they separated the upper part of the intake from the "hips". Actually, I think the "red part" moves back (towards the engines) rather than the legs/hips moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyde01 Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I need to go watch M+ again and get the exact time/frames that show the 'extra' piece in the YF-19's intake transformation sequence. It's not in Kawamori's drawings, but the animators figured out how to reconcile the different shapes. I mentioned it to Graham, but haven't gotten back to him on where it's shown. I'll try to do it tonight. Basically, the upper and lower halves of the intake split--the lower section forms the "hip" while the upper section becomes the "rear skirt armor".  Have the red part separate from the blue part: 413461[/snapback] I actually remember seeing that in the anime. Always thought it was an animation mistake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatillero PR Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I need to go watch M+ again and get the exact time/frames that show the 'extra' piece in the YF-19's intake transformation sequence. It's not in Kawamori's drawings, but the animators figured out how to reconcile the different shapes.  I mentioned it to Graham, but haven't gotten back to him on where it's shown. I'll try to do it tonight.  Basically, the upper and lower halves of the intake split--the lower section forms the "hip" while the upper section becomes the "rear skirt armor".  Have the red part separate from the blue part: 413461[/snapback] I actually remember seeing that in the anime. Always thought it was an animation mistake... 413506[/snapback] Intersting... like in the Bandai 1/100 kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_Massacre_79 Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Is it even possible to do a 1/60 VF-11B and allow for a sliding heat shield? I wouldn't want another plastic tabby thing. It'd be battyin' if they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 (edited) Is it even possible to do a 1/60 VF-11B and allow for a sliding heat shield? I wouldn't want another plastic tabby thing. It'd be battyin' if they could. 413527[/snapback] Studio Halfeye managed a integrated heatshield in 1/100 scale. Id didn't slide so much as it sort of flipped out. There were pictures a while back detailing the mechanism. here are the pictures http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/magazi...g_sep2001a2.jpg http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/magazi...g_sep2001a1.jpg Edited July 4, 2006 by GobotFool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegis! Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 They managed to do the rotating cockpit seat on the 0S , they should be able to this stuff on a VF-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Now that i mentioned the LS variable model i think that the yamato YF-19 will have if not the same at least a very similar variable sequence (an elegant way to say transformation), tough neither have the correct crotch piece at least it is the closest thing to a YF-19 that stays within the boundaries of realistic physics and less anime magic. 413390[/snapback] Crotch piece folding is correct to the lineart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isamu_dyson Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 (edited) As far as i can see with the lineart : - Yamato has taken a more simpliest way to fold the wings. It'll be more durable IMO. - The tailfins fold the samed way as the 1/72. - There is a mechanic part just after the belly and it seems to be the articulation point for all the valkyrie legs/torso mechanism. - The canard wings are articulated and are reversed in battroid mode. - The hands seems to have the same old yamato mechanism. It's a great news and i can't wait to see prototype pictures Edited July 4, 2006 by isamu_dyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briareos Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 As far as i can see with the lineart :- The canard wings are articulated and are reversed in battroid mode. 413636[/snapback] Can you elaborate on this? Not sure what you mean by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I would assume "rotate 180 degress to fit in the torso area". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderhiryu Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Ine thing that bugs me abou the wings is the size. i think they should be large like the yamato previous 19, since one of the things i liked is how they looked in battroid, specially from the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderhiryu Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 BTW about he sharon apple figure i would like it in full body, as when she was harasing isamu and also the short haired sharon that manipulated yang into attempting to shot isamu. and yes, just in case you wonder she has to be topless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) Watched some of M+ again, here's good examples of the upper part of the intake (red) separating from the hips (blue). Upon further scrutiny, it seems the animators have it attached to the "spine", not really like an armor skirt as I thought. (And the red part is one piece---not two separate pieces from each hip) Part 2 (OVA, not movie version): Soon after the YF-19's first appearance and the dino-bird smoke-trail Isamu makes, you see the first YF-21/YF-19 simultaneous testing. There will be a side-shot showing both of them in the mock town, and Isamu is in GERWALK, then jumps over a bridge and lands in battroid---that's a decent look at what I'm talking about. Great shot: When Isamu tests the arm-mounted extra weapons pack---the shot starts with a rear view, then he turns around and fires. Another good one: When Guld and Isamu fight in the mock city---very early in the fight, Guld will throw his first PPB punch---Isamu will retaliate with a knee--that's a good look. Edited July 5, 2006 by David Hingtgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isamu_dyson Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I would assume "rotate 180 degress to fit in the torso area". 413746[/snapback] Excatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk1j Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) Here is a view of the battroid line art with the multiple views. Edited July 5, 2006 by valk1j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_jacob77 Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 HI all, Valk 1j, where did you get these photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk1j Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 From many places, I probably have 600-700 different macross pics, wallpapers, and lineart. I don't keep track of where I got them from though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Well those line art pics can be found in the Macross Plus Movie Edition book and probably the Macross Design Works book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 It has finally happened. That's great. Any word until we get a picture of a *real* one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isamu_dyson Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) Another thing is disturbing me. In fighter mode, the lower half of the torso can be seen by the uncovered air intakes, this must leave a hole in battroid mode I hope i'm wrong. Edited July 6, 2006 by isamu_dyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Another thing is disturbing me. In fighter mode, the lower half of the torso can be seen by the uncovered air intakes, this must leave a hole in battroid mode I hope i'm wrong. 414071[/snapback] well, unless you plan to leave the intake covers off in battroid mode, it shouldn't make that big of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isamu_dyson Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 (edited) even with the covers on, there will be a hole on the leg. it'll be visible especially when we will look the back. I'm still hopping that i'm wrong Edited July 6, 2006 by isamu_dyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 even with the covers on, there will be a hole on the leg. it'll be visible especially when we will look the back. I'm still hopping that i'm wrong 414079[/snapback] Ah. I see what you mean. Still, when I look at my mecha I rarely admire their bums. Pretty as they may be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isamu_dyson Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 lol . well it can be a "problem" in dynamic poses . but we'll see with the first bunch of pictures of the prototype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Imagine who knew about this wayyyy before today but couldn't say anything about it. That lucky fool. 410074[/snapback] I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like tears ... in rain. Time ... to die. Graham 410092[/snapback] (very nice reference to Blade Runner there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 even with the covers on, there will be a hole on the leg. it'll be visible especially when we will look the back. I'm still hopping that i'm wrong 414079[/snapback] I'm just guessing here, but if there is a hole in the back of the upper leg for the lower chest section to fit in fighter mode, the hole may be partially covered in battroid mode, by the upper sub-intake section. Or, it just may be that the CAD drawing is wrong. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Any of you photo shop geniuses want to trying coloring in the Yamato CAD line art in the anime colors? Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatillero PR Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Another thing is disturbing me. In fighter mode, the lower half of the torso can be seen by the uncovered air intakes, this must leave a hole in battroid mode I hope i'm wrong. 414071[/snapback] By the way, looks better in this bigger pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Hopefully Yamato will have the prototype pics in the next Dengeki Hobby or Hobby Japan. I'm going though the old issues and there was a one month turnaround time for the VF-0S CAD to PROTO pics. Keeping my fingers crossed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 I'll join you in crossing them there fingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIymij Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I may need to sell some of stealths just for this baby... @_@ we've all been waiting yearssss for this!!! im so happy =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 (edited) Any of you photo shop geniuses want to trying coloring in the Yamato CAD line art in the anime colors?Graham 414446[/snapback] You didnt specify which modes, so I hope these are the ones you wanted. Edited July 10, 2006 by Spiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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