Sdf-1 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 This kind of stuff is pretty good warning to know for n00bs like me... Wouldn't really want to find out what it's like to be scammed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 but after people paid for them he shipped empty boxes. 368173[/snapback] Whoa, what a... 368179[/snapback] Yeah sad but true. I was about 2 steps from buying a set of fast packs from him under one of his old alias mechaf***er, when he backed off from the deal saying he sold em to someone else but had other stuff he could sell me like some more 1/48's he didn't post up. I wasn't intrested though and kind of just shrugged it off. A couple days after that though some of the other members received the packages they paid good money for only to find there was nothing inside. It was a total scam and the guy disappeared soon after once again. A real asshat. I remember some one had a sig. that said don't trust anyone from such and such Florida where the guy originally had his address made out to, and i think that's a good thing to watch out for if you're worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F360° Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 yeah,, pretty much that SOB is the main reason why Florida and the whole EAST COST is having bad Weathers lately and lots more to come. It ain't going to stop until one of those Storms meet up with him. I'm surprise he lucked out on all of them. He sure is lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress_Maximus Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) Please add as a bad buyer: 67shelbygt-500kr Agreed to buy a lot of items from me, never paid after a considerable time passed 20+ days. Edited February 22, 2006 by Fortress_Maximus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 What happened with that clown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress_Maximus Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Unfortunately a request to add MW user UN Spacy. Contacted me on 2/1/06 informing me he wanted two items, then 2/2 changed it to one item, item is then held for him. He requested to meet in person, gave him options on dates and times, even rescheduled at his request, but ... followed by dead silence. Time passes despite multiple requests from me for an update; never mind the fact during this entire time he is regularly posting on MW but ignoring the pms. When I finally do hear from him on 2/17, he backs out, "Terribly sorry for the late reply. The DYRL poster is very tempting but I'm gonna have to pass because I have to save up funds for the VF-0S. It's gonna put a major dent in my wallet for the next couple of months." Edited February 23, 2006 by Fortress_Maximus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanfrr Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 well I had people back out before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortress_Maximus Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) well I had people back out before. 372959[/snapback] No offense but so what? You wouldn't be so understanding if the same happened to you after you held items for over two weeks OR if you had someone win it on ebay and they pulled the same excuses. No one appreciates someone wasting their time and energy by agreeing to buy something(s), ignoring attempts by the seller to obtain updates and ultimately, being an irresponsible buyer by failing to pay. Edited February 23, 2006 by Fortress_Maximus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I'm with Fort Max. First of all, I don't believe in holding items and it's because of stuff like this. Second, if there were a situation where I asked someone to hold an item for me, for whatever reason, I would take that to mean I've made the deal to buy the item and by not paying for it I'm basically failing on a contract. Sure, it's not as legally binding but people should really consider it more indicative of their principles. All that being said, saying "Hey, I'm interested in that!" is not the same as saying "Hey, consider that sold but I can't pay you for two weeks" and then not paying. I'm assuming that Fort Max came to a solid agreement to buy on a set price only to be told off later... and that sort of thing is crappy for a potential buyer to do and I would think warrants a blacklist. Honestly, a blacklisted buyer is just going to be made to pay-up front later so it's not really that damning of a thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Then why not introduce a seperate forum just for buyers. I thought the Blacklist is for sellers to be aware of bad buyers and not flakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Uh, wouldn't a "bad" buyer be someone who agrees to buy something and then does not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I'm very grateful that people hold items if you can't pay them at the moment but surely want it. And it's not necessarily that you wouldn't have the money, but the credit limit. There are these offers you shouldn't hesitate if you want it. Though, I consider asking an item to be held, means you have agreed to buy the item, but for some problem etc you wish to be able to pay later. For me, it's a paying arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F360° Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Yup the "Blacklist" is for naming bad sellers and bad buyers so people will be more careful on who to deal transactions with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Why is the SSL stated only for good sellers? I don't sell, I only buy. So far, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Unfortunately a request to add MW user UN Spacy. Contacted me on 2/1/06 informing me he wanted two items, then 2/2 changed it to one item, item is then held for him. He requested to meet in person, gave him options on dates and times, even rescheduled at his request, but ... followed by dead silence. Time passes despite multiple requests from me for an update; never mind the fact during this entire time he is regularly posting on MW but ignoring the pms. When I finally do hear from him on 2/17, he backs out, "Terribly sorry for the late reply. The DYRL poster is very tempting but I'm gonna have to pass because I have to save up funds for the VF-0S. It's gonna put a major dent in my wallet for the next couple of months." 372886[/snapback] Did you REALLY have to add me to the Blacklist? I've been a part of Macrossworld since the old boards and NEVER had a single problem with another seller. At least I was being honest with you, sorry that you couldn't wait a few more days for a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robokochan Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 If it helps... I have never had any problems with UNSpacy on any trasaction we have had. And there have been quite a few. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatslappy Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 (edited) Unfortunately a request to add MW user UN Spacy. Contacted me on 2/1/06 informing me he wanted two items, then 2/2 changed it to one item, item is then held for him. He requested to meet in person, gave him options on dates and times, even rescheduled at his request, but ... followed by dead silence. Time passes despite multiple requests from me for an update; never mind the fact during this entire time he is regularly posting on MW but ignoring the pms. When I finally do hear from him on 2/17, he backs out, "Terribly sorry for the late reply. The DYRL poster is very tempting but I'm gonna have to pass because I have to save up funds for the VF-0S. It's gonna put a major dent in my wallet for the next couple of months." 372886[/snapback] Did you REALLY have to add me to the Blacklist? I've been a part of Macrossworld since the old boards and NEVER had a single problem with another seller. At least I was being honest with you, sorry that you couldn't wait a few more days for a reply. 373634[/snapback] You have admitted that you were in the wrong, so there's no disputing this. He has every right to add you to the blacklist. You may have been honest, but you certainly weren't upfront if you were on the boards posting away while not replying to his repeated requests from you. Oh, and as far as honesty goes...hmm it didn't look like it would have stopped you from buying that Matchbox SDF1 if you could have. Edited February 25, 2006 by phatslappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Sama Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Unfortunately a request to add MW user UN Spacy. Contacted me on 2/1/06 informing me he wanted two items, then 2/2 changed it to one item, item is then held for him. He requested to meet in person, gave him options on dates and times, even rescheduled at his request, but ... followed by dead silence. Time passes despite multiple requests from me for an update; never mind the fact during this entire time he is regularly posting on MW but ignoring the pms. When I finally do hear from him on 2/17, he backs out, "Terribly sorry for the late reply. The DYRL poster is very tempting but I'm gonna have to pass because I have to save up funds for the VF-0S. It's gonna put a major dent in my wallet for the next couple of months." 372886[/snapback] Did you REALLY have to add me to the Blacklist? I've been a part of Macrossworld since the old boards and NEVER had a single problem with another seller. At least I was being honest with you, sorry that you couldn't wait a few more days for a reply. 373634[/snapback] You have admitted that you were in the wrong, so there's no disputing this. He has every right to add you to the blacklist. You may have been honest, but you certainly weren't upfront if you were on the boards posting away while not replying to his repeated requests from you. Oh, and as far as honesty goes...hmm it didn't look like it would have stopped you from buying that Matchbox SDF1 if you could have. 373656[/snapback] unless he had a legal contract, he can back out of a eal at any time. thoes things are rare. I'd have gotten it on a credit card if I di dno thave one already. just to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 unless he had a legal contract, he can back out of a eal at any time. thoes things are rare. I'd have gotten it on a credit card if I di dno thave one already. just to have one. A legal contract? Seriously Ali??? I gotta disagree big time unless you're considering a PM a legal contract. If someone PMs me and says "I'm going to buy that off you for $X but I need two weeks" and then doesn't send me money in two weeks than that guy needs to get blacklisted. Add to that additional stringing along while clearly still active on the website even when the seller is trying to accomodate you in every way? I don't see how UN Spacy has much of a leg to stand on here. Clearly I'm just going off FM's depiction of what's happening. I don't doubt that UN has purchased from others and not played games with them. I would also agree that maybe we should have separate buyer/seller blacklists. It'd be unfortunate if UN Spacy couldn't sell a good in the future because of this (likely extremely rare) lapse in buying edicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Sama Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 unless he had a legal contract, he can back out of a eal at any time. thoes things are rare. I'd have gotten it on a credit card if I di dno thave one already. just to have one. A legal contract? Seriously Ali??? I gotta disagree big time unless you're considering a PM a legal contract. If someone PMs me and says "I'm going to buy that off you for $X but I need two weeks" and then doesn't send me money in two weeks than that guy needs to get blacklisted. Add to that additional stringing along while clearly still active on the website even when the seller is trying to accomodate you in every way? I don't see how UN Spacy has much of a leg to stand on here. Clearly I'm just going off FM's depiction of what's happening. I don't doubt that UN has purchased from others and not played games with them. I would also agree that maybe we should have separate buyer/seller blacklists. It'd be unfortunate if UN Spacy couldn't sell a good in the future because of this (likely extremely rare) lapse in buying edicate. 373851[/snapback] yes. I amvery serios. He told him. the seller lost nothing but 10 days. Unless his sale was life and death. what did he loose? bad buy is when you hurt the seller same with the other way around. the list is for peopel who rip others off. Not for deals that did not bear fruite. if he consistnatly does this over and over. then you have a case. if you add someone for this reason and on a 1 case basis. Then the list becomes useless. did he rip anyone off? no,. Did he do it consistrnatly over aperiod of time. No. shoudl he be on the black list. NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatslappy Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) That's exactly why he should be on the black list. If he is going to enter a deal with someone else, that person should know if he's had any bad dealings that would preclude him from completing the deal. If I were to sell to UN Spacy, I'd like to know if he'd backed out of any deals. It's quite obvious that he's agreed to purchase the item. Legal contract? Gimme a break. Our PMs are really the best and almost only form of communication on here. If we can't back that, then we've got nothing here. There's really no way to make a verbal contract on here. And you wanna go through the hassle of drawing up a sales purchase agreement? Ebay has negative and positive feedback. Clearly, this is a case where he deserves negative feedback. Being on the blacklist doesn't mean you are blacklisted from anything. But it just shows that you have a blemish on your record. He's admitted that he backed out, so that to me shows he's already wronged someone on the board. And not only that, he didn't even have the decency to tell the seller that he didn't want it anymore. Was UNSpacy just thinking if he ignored the seller long enough, the seller would get the hint? To me, it's not so much that he backed out of the deal that makes me think that he should go on the blacklist because the seller wants it. It's because he held out, while freely playing around on the board. He purposely ignored the seller, and that to me, shows a lack of character. So Alisama, if you don't add it this time, how many times would UNSPacy have to back out of a purchase before he gets blacklisted? And how would you know? If he were to back out of a deal with 5 different people, there's no way to track that. Do you want to create a greylist where people aren't on the blacklist, but they have actions that might in the future, when compounded, would ultimately result in them being added to the blacklist? Is this something we should take a poll on? Whether someone's actions are worthy of putting them on the blacklist? Surely, this seller feels that he was wronged enough for him to warrant the buyer being put on the blacklist, and he provided verified as well as legitimate reasons for wanting to add him to the list. That should be enough to put him on the blacklist. UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the sellers blacklist for not being understanding of his lying predicament. When I see the things he's looking to buy in the sales forum, I don't see someone who's unable to afford the item he agreed to purchase from FM. So perhaps, I am biased, in that sense. But seriously, UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the blacklist for not waiting long enough, thus making him a poor seller. Retaliatory feedbacks occur on ebay everyday. But the purpose of the blacklist is to give people information regarding poor performance in a transaction. It should be there, so that the people who engage in transactions with others such as UNSpacy have all the information to proceed in their transactions, and they can make their own conclusions based on that. I'm sure that if UNSpacy has plenty of positive feedbacks on the straightshooters list, people will be willing to overlook it. But Just because they are willing to overlook it doesn't mean it shouldn't be there for them to see. Let the people be the judges. If Alisama wishes to overlook it, that is his prerogative. But that doesn't mean that other people should be forced to overlook it. Edited February 28, 2006 by phatslappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) OK, Mini-Mod time. The point of the Blacklist is for people who have had a negative experience with a seller or buyer to report that incident as a warning to other members who may consider buying from that person. That being said, once someone is nominated, I see no reason to remove them. Anyone who cares enough to be reading this thread will hopefully read both sides and make up their own minds based on what was said. To some people, making a seller wait 10 days may be a stoning offense, to others, it's no big deal. I think both sides of the story have been told here. UN Spacy has had a chance to defend himself, that's what matters. As a Mod, it's not my place to add or remove anyone. It is however, my place to make sure this doesn't heat up too much. The name stays, end of discussion. Thanks! Edited February 28, 2006 by Mechamaniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Sama Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 That's exactly why he should be on the black list. If he is going to enter a deal with someone else, that person should know if he's had any bad dealings that would preclude him from completing the deal. If I were to sell to UN Spacy, I'd like to know if he'd backed out of any deals. It's quite obvious that he's agreed to purchase the item. Legal contract? Gimme a break. Our PMs are really the best and almost only form of communication on here. If we can't back that, then we've got nothing here. There's really no way to make a verbal contract on here. And you wanna go through the hassle of drawing up a sales purchase agreement? Ebay has negative and positive feedback. Clearly, this is a case where he deserves negative feedback. Being on the blacklist doesn't mean you are blacklisted from anything. But it just shows that you have a blemish on your record. He's admitted that he backed out, so that to me shows he's already wronged someone on the board. And not only that, he didn't even have the decency to tell the seller that he didn't want it anymore. Was UNSpacy just thinking if he ignored the seller long enough, the seller would get the hint? To me, it's not so much that he backed out of the deal that makes me think that he should go on the blacklist because the seller wants it. It's because he held out, while freely playing around on the board. He purposely ignored the seller, and that to me, shows a lack of character. So Alisama, if you don't add it this time, how many times would UNSPacy have to back out of a purchase before he gets blacklisted? And how would you know? If he were to back out of a deal with 5 different people, there's no way to track that. Do you want to create a greylist where people aren't on the blacklist, but they have actions that might in the future, when compounded, would ultimately result in them being added to the blacklist? Is this something we should take a poll on? Whether someone's actions are worthy of putting them on the blacklist? Surely, this seller feels that he was wronged enough for him to warrant the buyer being put on the blacklist, and he provided verified as well as legitimate reasons for wanting to add him to the list. That should be enough to put him on the blacklist. UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the sellers blacklist for not being understanding of his lying predicament. When I see the things he's looking to buy in the sales forum, I don't see someone who's unable to afford the item he agreed to purchase from FM. So perhaps, I am biased, in that sense. But seriously, UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the blacklist for not waiting long enough, thus making him a poor seller. Retaliatory feedbacks occur on ebay everyday. But the purpose of the blacklist is to give people information regarding poor performance in a transaction. It should be there, so that the people who engage in transactions with others such as UNSpacy have all the information to proceed in their transactions, and they can make their own conclusions based on that. I'm sure that if UNSpacy has plenty of positive feedbacks on the straightshooters list, people will be willing to overlook it. But Just because they are willing to overlook it doesn't mean it shouldn't be there for them to see. Let the people be the judges. If Alisama wishes to overlook it, that is his prerogative. But that doesn't mean that other people should be forced to overlook it. 374463[/snapback] nintendo backed out of the sony snes cd update which became the psx in the last minute. Did anyone blacklist them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatslappy Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 That's exactly why he should be on the black list. If he is going to enter a deal with someone else, that person should know if he's had any bad dealings that would preclude him from completing the deal. If I were to sell to UN Spacy, I'd like to know if he'd backed out of any deals. It's quite obvious that he's agreed to purchase the item. Legal contract? Gimme a break. Our PMs are really the best and almost only form of communication on here. If we can't back that, then we've got nothing here. There's really no way to make a verbal contract on here. And you wanna go through the hassle of drawing up a sales purchase agreement? Ebay has negative and positive feedback. Clearly, this is a case where he deserves negative feedback. Being on the blacklist doesn't mean you are blacklisted from anything. But it just shows that you have a blemish on your record. He's admitted that he backed out, so that to me shows he's already wronged someone on the board. And not only that, he didn't even have the decency to tell the seller that he didn't want it anymore. Was UNSpacy just thinking if he ignored the seller long enough, the seller would get the hint? To me, it's not so much that he backed out of the deal that makes me think that he should go on the blacklist because the seller wants it. It's because he held out, while freely playing around on the board. He purposely ignored the seller, and that to me, shows a lack of character. So Alisama, if you don't add it this time, how many times would UNSPacy have to back out of a purchase before he gets blacklisted? And how would you know? If he were to back out of a deal with 5 different people, there's no way to track that. Do you want to create a greylist where people aren't on the blacklist, but they have actions that might in the future, when compounded, would ultimately result in them being added to the blacklist? Is this something we should take a poll on? Whether someone's actions are worthy of putting them on the blacklist? Surely, this seller feels that he was wronged enough for him to warrant the buyer being put on the blacklist, and he provided verified as well as legitimate reasons for wanting to add him to the list. That should be enough to put him on the blacklist. UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the sellers blacklist for not being understanding of his lying predicament. When I see the things he's looking to buy in the sales forum, I don't see someone who's unable to afford the item he agreed to purchase from FM. So perhaps, I am biased, in that sense. But seriously, UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the blacklist for not waiting long enough, thus making him a poor seller. Retaliatory feedbacks occur on ebay everyday. But the purpose of the blacklist is to give people information regarding poor performance in a transaction. It should be there, so that the people who engage in transactions with others such as UNSpacy have all the information to proceed in their transactions, and they can make their own conclusions based on that. I'm sure that if UNSpacy has plenty of positive feedbacks on the straightshooters list, people will be willing to overlook it. But Just because they are willing to overlook it doesn't mean it shouldn't be there for them to see. Let the people be the judges. If Alisama wishes to overlook it, that is his prerogative. But that doesn't mean that other people should be forced to overlook it. 374463[/snapback] nintendo backed out of the sony snes cd update which became the psx in the last minute. Did anyone blacklist them? 374502[/snapback] What did you not understand about the end of discussion? But see, I didn't know that nintendo backed out. But when I do a deal with nintendo, I'd definitely like to have known that they backed out. Were there a blacklist forum for businesses to business, sure...I'd like for Sony to have blacklisted them for it. But it's not your place to blacklist nintendo. It's sony's and the shareholders of sony, so unless you're a shareholder, the point is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Sama Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 That's exactly why he should be on the black list. If he is going to enter a deal with someone else, that person should know if he's had any bad dealings that would preclude him from completing the deal. If I were to sell to UN Spacy, I'd like to know if he'd backed out of any deals. It's quite obvious that he's agreed to purchase the item. Legal contract? Gimme a break. Our PMs are really the best and almost only form of communication on here. If we can't back that, then we've got nothing here. There's really no way to make a verbal contract on here. And you wanna go through the hassle of drawing up a sales purchase agreement? Ebay has negative and positive feedback. Clearly, this is a case where he deserves negative feedback. Being on the blacklist doesn't mean you are blacklisted from anything. But it just shows that you have a blemish on your record. He's admitted that he backed out, so that to me shows he's already wronged someone on the board. And not only that, he didn't even have the decency to tell the seller that he didn't want it anymore. Was UNSpacy just thinking if he ignored the seller long enough, the seller would get the hint? To me, it's not so much that he backed out of the deal that makes me think that he should go on the blacklist because the seller wants it. It's because he held out, while freely playing around on the board. He purposely ignored the seller, and that to me, shows a lack of character. So Alisama, if you don't add it this time, how many times would UNSPacy have to back out of a purchase before he gets blacklisted? And how would you know? If he were to back out of a deal with 5 different people, there's no way to track that. Do you want to create a greylist where people aren't on the blacklist, but they have actions that might in the future, when compounded, would ultimately result in them being added to the blacklist? Is this something we should take a poll on? Whether someone's actions are worthy of putting them on the blacklist? Surely, this seller feels that he was wronged enough for him to warrant the buyer being put on the blacklist, and he provided verified as well as legitimate reasons for wanting to add him to the list. That should be enough to put him on the blacklist. UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the sellers blacklist for not being understanding of his lying predicament. When I see the things he's looking to buy in the sales forum, I don't see someone who's unable to afford the item he agreed to purchase from FM. So perhaps, I am biased, in that sense. But seriously, UNSpacy could just nominate FM for the blacklist for not waiting long enough, thus making him a poor seller. Retaliatory feedbacks occur on ebay everyday. But the purpose of the blacklist is to give people information regarding poor performance in a transaction. It should be there, so that the people who engage in transactions with others such as UNSpacy have all the information to proceed in their transactions, and they can make their own conclusions based on that. I'm sure that if UNSpacy has plenty of positive feedbacks on the straightshooters list, people will be willing to overlook it. But Just because they are willing to overlook it doesn't mean it shouldn't be there for them to see. Let the people be the judges. If Alisama wishes to overlook it, that is his prerogative. But that doesn't mean that other people should be forced to overlook it. 374463[/snapback] nintendo backed out of the sony snes cd update which became the psx in the last minute. Did anyone blacklist them? 374502[/snapback] What did you not understand about the end of discussion? But see, I didn't know that nintendo backed out. But when I do a deal with nintendo, I'd definitely like to have known that they backed out. Were there a blacklist forum for businesses to business, sure...I'd like for Sony to have blacklisted them for it. But it's not your place to blacklist nintendo. It's sony's and the shareholders of sony, so unless you're a shareholder, the point is moot. 374516[/snapback] so. in your opinion. 1 istake and your gone. so 100% right or no a+.who said the discussion is ending. there is no flaming. it will go on as long as i want to discuss it. Itg is on topic and proper for the forum. the gy has had a few dozen or so good transactions. even ebay is not this bad. Personly and i am not alone in this, will not deal with fortress aximus for doing this. He may not be on th eblack list but when peopel refuse to trade, sell or buy from him for this. he will hurt much more then the 10 days he had waited. enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) who said the discussion is ending. I did. there is no flaming. it will go on as long as i want to discuss it. At the rate you're going, it looks like you will be talking to yourself before long. Itg is on topic and proper for the forum. the gy has had a few dozen or so good transactions. even ebay is not this bad. Yes, it is on topic, however, it is also a moot point. Ebay IS this bad. Someone on ebay can have dozens, even hundreds or thousands of good feedback right alongside one or two negative feedback. Does it make that person a bad seller or buyer?. No, opinions are like Aholes, everyone has one. And you can't please everyone all the time. In any situation where you buy, sell or trade sight unseen (IE: over the internet) you will run into situations where what you think is perfectly legit, is an affront to someone else. Bottom line is that both sides of the story have been represented here, and people will make their own informed decisions based on what has been said. Personly and i am not alone in this, will not deal with fortress aximus for doing this. He may not be on th eblack list but when peopel refuse to trade, sell or buy from him for this. he will hurt much more then the 10 days he had waited. enjoy. If you have a problem with Fortress Maximus, take it to PM. This is not the place. THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER! 374644[/snapback] Edited February 28, 2006 by Mechamaniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) My wish is not to blacklist anybody, and I wouldn't want to do this at all, but thought to let you know... About 2 weeks ago we made an agreement with Glane21, that he will keep a Garland resin kit on hold for me, until the beginning of this month (because of the credit limit), and I will reply then and we can make the payment/shipping. Now when I did PM him today, he said he's sorry but he * it up and he had sold and shipped it to someone else. Saying that he thought I was the one who payed it (or, as I've said, my friend who does the pay paling for me because I don't have a credit card), even if I don't even have his account information, and he originally did an offer of total price shipped to Finland. That sucked. I'm still pretty cool with it, but that is not the way to do things. And btw, he didn't even mark it as "on hold" at all, in fact, it is still for sale here: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=17427 Edited March 1, 2006 by Sdf-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I'm not doubting SDF-1 at all, but just for the purposes of anyone else who may read this later, I've done business with Glane before and had things work out swimmingly. I really think people should just quit trying to "hold" anything... seems like it just leads to misery for both buyers and sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 (edited) Glane's last reply: Ok I screwed up...someone who was interested in it before you sent payment (I did not think they were going to) and I got confused and thought it was coming from your friend. So I sent off the model the other day. Now I see I made a mistake when I got your message. Very sorry about this, I feel terrible sad.gif My reply to it: Well, I think we had quite simple agreement there. Secondly, as you should know, I wouldn't have even known what is your account where to pay. Third, you already made an offer shipped to Finland, I don't think you sent it to this country that much. I was wondering a bit why didn't you mark the kit as "on hold"... So you were hoping for someone to buy it faster than me? I don't ask for holding items if I'm not going to pay them. At least I would tell asap if there was a problem like that, so it could be sold to someone else. This kinda sucks. Yeah. I'm sorry about this too. Not that cool IMO. Secondly, IF he said the truth about other buyer, wouldn't that mean he already held the item for another guy? Personally, I don't believe that story. I guess I should've been more angry about this in my post above to make it clear. It just felt pretty bad to give negative feedback first time ever. But if I really must say it, I was honestly being screwed up. No excuse. But I don't care that much about this anymore. And I don't want to discuss about it anymore. At first I was going to let it be completely, because I HATE to argue with anyone, and all I lost was the kit... Edited March 2, 2006 by Sdf-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT junkie Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Just a thought, and maybe it's more hassle than the admin of the Blacklist wants to deal with, but what if the people who are on the list had the number of offenses they committed next to their names? I guess if I were looking to buy, and saw a guy had 1 strike, I would search the boards to see what happenned, and if he had 50 nominations on the SS list, that'd help give me a clearer picture of the risk. On another note... I'd like to nominate Ebay seller SunDevilDVD, if this is the right place for bad Ebay sellers. Bought Macross Zero from them, and it skipped through most of chapters 3,4 and 5. Returned it for an exchange, and after 4 weeks of waiting and several e-mails with no reply, I finally filed a complaint with Paypal. 2 Days later I get an e-mail from them that the new copy is on the way, and to please cancel my complaint. The new disc came, and it skips worse than the last one. Looking at the backside of the disc, the coating is obviously defective, just like the first copy. I don't know if they're bootlegs or not. I just want to watch the damn movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glane21 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Glane's last reply:Ok I screwed up...someone who was interested in it before you sent payment (I did not think they were going to) and I got confused and thought it was coming from your friend. So I sent off the model the other day. Now I see I made a mistake when I got your message. Very sorry about this, I feel terrible sad.gif My reply to it: Well, I think we had quite simple agreement there. Secondly, as you should know, I wouldn't have even known what is your account where to pay. Third, you already made an offer shipped to Finland, I don't think you sent it to this country that much. I was wondering a bit why didn't you mark the kit as "on hold"... So you were hoping for someone to buy it faster than me? I don't ask for holding items if I'm not going to pay them. At least I would tell asap if there was a problem like that, so it could be sold to someone else. This kinda sucks. Yeah. I'm sorry about this too. Not that cool IMO. Secondly, IF he said the truth about other buyer, wouldn't that mean he already held the item for another guy? Personally, I don't believe that story. I guess I should've been more angry about this in my post above to make it clear. It just felt pretty bad to give negative feedback first time ever. But if I really must say it, I was honestly being screwed up. No excuse. But I don't care that much about this anymore. And I don't want to discuss about it anymore. At first I was going to let it be completely, because I HATE to argue with anyone, and all I lost was the kit... 375443[/snapback] Sorry you're so upset about this. I already said it was my mistake, not much more I can do. I had no less than 5 people say they wanted this kit and then you don't hear back for weeks. In the mass of PM's I lost track of who was who. Happens to the best of us, but henceforth I will stick to a "No Dibs" policy to prevent any future hard feelings. And for those reading, I did not take any of SDF-1's money, nor have I ever cheated anyone here, or on ebay or anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Ok Glane, it sucked big time, but it was a mistake then. No hard feelings from my side at least. It is not anything else, just that I was really looking forward to get that rare (?) kit, for the great price you offered. I was dreaming how would I paint and weather it etc... So, it was a disappointment. But I believe this matter has been talked enough. As said, all I lost was the cool kit, which was not paid yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glane21 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Ok Glane, it sucked big time, but it was a mistake then. No hard feelings from my side at least. It is not anything else, just that I was really looking forward to get that rare (?) kit, for the great price you offered. I was dreaming how would I paint and weather it etc... So, it was a disappointment. But I believe this matter has been talked enough. As said, all I lost was the cool kit, which was not paid yet. 375643[/snapback] No problem. I would put the $ toward the Yamato transforming Garland and weather it to your liking. Plus it will transform, which is the real sweetness IMO. I plan on picking up a couple extra for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHX Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Please add "whytwolf" to the blacklist. I lent him a 1/72 Q-Rau about a year ago and he was going to use it to make a TV Q-Rau conversion but not only did he not follow through, he never returned my 1/72 Q-Rau. I've sent him a few PMs/Emails in the past several months and he hasnt responded to a single one of them. I've waited long enough and I think he belongs on the blacklist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Semi off-topic: AlphaHX, are you talking about the Club-M 1/72 Q-rau? I'd sooo badly want that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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