jvmacross Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Shawn said: So is this an official mis-packaged valk or someone putting up loose parts? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k1077364458 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shawn said: Can you elaborate? Always curious to learn more from the Toy experts. First is the sticker on the chest. It implies the figure was used a fair amount. Quite a bit of dirt around the edge. Second is the Jetfire armor is far too clean to match the VE-1. Next is the instruction sheet. There shouldn’t be any. From all the examples I have seen for as far as I can remember never had documents associated with these gift sets. Other clues are also found in the armor parts, but in order to tell if they are legit to this incident at that particular time, I would need to get a hold of it. There is more but I would hate to give away all the tells as someone could create a duplicate. It would take the right parts, but as we all know it can be done. Edited January 3, 2023 by nightmareB4macross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark-O-Matic Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/1/2023 at 10:07 PM, jvmacross said: It could be that you had an early release Strike Valkyrie....the first batch were actually Takatoku VF-1S repaints....the paint jobs on these were kind of sloppy....you can tell you have a Takatoku branded version if it has the T.T. logo underneath the Bandai sticker behind the chest plate....like this... I took it out of storage and it seems to just be victim of bad QC and not an early variant I was hoping it was an early edition. I already opened it twice and just could not bare to stress the box flap again (was extremely tight) next person to open one last time will be someone as CAS or CAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think blemishes like those are pretty standard for the era. Processes were a lot more manual and tolerances were more varied. All things considered, it looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark-O-Matic Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Rare KO showed up today. surprised its still up on the bay for the asking price. Space Gandam - Robotech Macross Valkyrie KO - VF-1J 1/55 - MIB Box Is it really a knockoff if it had its own cartoon show & storyline? or should it be adapted as an alternate timeline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Spark-O-Matic said: Rare KO showed up today. surprised its still up on the bay for the asking price. Space Gandam - Robotech Macross Valkyrie KO - VF-1J 1/55 - MIB Box Is it really a knockoff if it had its own cartoon show & storyline? or should it be adapted as an alternate timeline? It’s a KO. Yes, it was produced for the South Korean audiences. No, there is no continuity between Space Gandam V and Macross to make this an alternate universe. The asking price is pretty low. I would snatch this up if I didn’t have this already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatoys Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Does anybody have a nice picture of the 4 variation boxes of 1/55 VF-1J made by Takatoku. I wonder if someone got all 4 in his collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, takatoys said: Does anybody have a nice picture of the 4 variation boxes of 1/55 VF-1J made by Takatoku. I wonder if someone got all 4 in his collection. I have a nice minty set. Currently in a storage box. But hopefully this will suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Here are some comparison pics of the Space Gandam vs the Taka if interested https://baikindaddy.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-301.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 From the old mactama site. 4 variations as seen above, here is a close up of a couple of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatoys Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, nightmareB4macross said: I have a nice minty set. Currently in a storage box. But hopefully this will suffice. I was expecting a recent picture of a collector. Have not seen anybody having all those 4 on a shelf 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, takatoys said: I was expecting a recent picture of a collector. Have not seen anybody having all those 4 on a shelf 🙂 On a table. Not the best display but given the limited table space, I think it works. 😊 Edited January 7, 2023 by nightmareB4macross Pic added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatoys Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I see them 😀 How rare is to get the first version box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, takatoys said: I see them 😀 How rare is to get the first version box? They pop up from time to time, but a mint and complete version is pretty hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Expect around $150-$250 range (with shipping) 2 recently sold https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v1070244846 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/1068232348 If you do end up getting all 4 variations let us know, I'm curious too how many collectors have all 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I did a quick google search 'for the records', here are the 4 variations Look at the antenna and feet sectionz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatoys Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 By seeing the order of the releases in the book, your picture goes like this, am I right? 3 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 oh...good point, chrono order would have been better. Here we are L to R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Shawn said: oh...good point, chrono order would have been better. Here we are L to R I have always loved the fact that these were labeled as Die-Cast Models and not toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Was it anyone here who won it? That is a healthy sold price. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k1077364458 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Shawn said: Was it anyone here who won it? That is a healthy sold price. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k1077364458 Holy crap, that’s way up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Shawn said: Was it anyone here who won it? That is a healthy sold price. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k1077364458 81K JPY for an incomplete Elint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 So based on this recent event, this brings up an interesting question for every collector out there. Would you keep this as is, or find the missing armour and complete the set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DewPoint Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 For me, it has value because it is a ligament item from the factory that should not have existed. Thus it should be rare. Therefore keep it as is and you can find the appropriate armor to keep along with it if it makes you feel better. That's assuming that it wasn't assembled to create a "rare" item. The age of the plastic however, makes it worryingly fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatoys Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Wait, if you have an incomplete Elintseeker in box, but put it a Jetfire armor, the value increases exponentially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Personally, the only value that set has to me is the box and the Elintseeker itself. To me, errors only have value if they're rare, can't be easily duplicated, and come from a popular product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, takatoys said: Wait, if you have an incomplete Elintseeker in box, but put it a Jetfire armor, the value increases exponentially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 14 hours ago, nightmareB4macross said: So based on this recent event, this brings up an interesting question for every collector out there. Would you keep this as is, or find the missing armour and complete the set? I would hope whoever won it...bought it because they thought it was an infamous Pony Toy Go Round release...these were not released in Japan this way, right? Anyway....it would most likely cost more to Frankenstein a complete Elint based on what you are getting in that auction than just waiting for one to get listed....plus a complete Elint will most likely show up several times within the next decade than a complete stand alone set of Elint Armor....plus Styrofoam box...stickers...manuals...catalog...etc.... And if these items were to show up together...it would probably sell for at minimum 300-400...maybe even more I think the last decent shaped Elint sold for around 1000 usd....maybe @Shawnhas some sold data on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Question for the old-school Takatoku collectors here I always hear the packaged Valkyrie/Armor sets (either valk & super or valk & gbp) referred to as the 'giftsets' So this would be the GBP GiftSet. I get the term is used to differentiate a normal VF-1S from the standalone armor packages, as it could get confusing how to refer to it But where does the term 'Giftset' originate? Is it on the packaging or instructions or something? Is it referred as such in Japan? Is it a states only thing? Curious minds want to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Shawn said: Question for the old-school Takatoku collectors here I always hear the packaged Valkyrie/Armor sets (either valk & super or valk & gbp) referred to as the 'giftsets' So this would be the GBP GiftSet. I get the term is used to differentiate a normal VF-1S from the standalone armor packages, as it could get confusing how to refer to it But where does the term 'Giftset' originate? Is it on the packaging or instructions or something? Is it referred as such in Japan? Is it a states only thing? Curious minds want to know That is a great question to which I have no answer. It could had been a term created and coined on these on these very forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Shawn said: Question for the old-school Takatoku collectors here I always hear the packaged Valkyrie/Armor sets (either valk & super or valk & gbp) referred to as the 'giftsets' So this would be the GBP GiftSet. I get the term is used to differentiate a normal VF-1S from the standalone armor packages, as it could get confusing how to refer to it But where does the term 'Giftset' originate? Is it on the packaging or instructions or something? Is it referred as such in Japan? Is it a states only thing? Curious minds want to know Pretty sure that is just a US term....I have always referred to them as combo sets...both Super and the GBP sets... I'll take a look at the Takatoku catalogs and see if there is any mention....you can probably also see what they are referred to in some of the mooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I found this, so perhaps this generic terminology is being applied to the Macross line as well. https://transformers.fandom.com/wiki/Giftset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Good point. That could be the origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatoys Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The term gift set was already used in the 60s when packing multiple related toys in one box. Corgi Toys and Matchbox put “gift set” on their big boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Thanks-good info! I think my question is answered why it is used in the Macross combo-box context around these parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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