Seanzilla Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 That was such an awesome 4 part arc. The rest of Season 4 has a lot to live up to. SPOLIERS: That said, I agree about Krell, I wish he wasn't just straight up evil. When I was in the Army, I had a platoon sargeant like him that had the most idiotic plans of assault when we trained in the field for combat operations. Often ending up with our platoon getting wiped out. Then when our squad leaders mid mission, would change the plan of attack we would often succeed, yet that would piss off the platoon sargeant greatly. He was a real a&&hole and like Krell demanded complete subordination to his command. I was hoping Krell would have been a little more like that, just absolutely demanding his troops follow his command with no questions asked, regardless of the outcome. And perhaps in this episode have his orders been exactly what was needed to succeed. But the twist of him turning the troops against each other in the battle field was pretty awesome, then of course all the events that followed... WOW It was funny hearing Krell talking about being Dooku's apprentice. I know Dooku was one of the most powerful Jedi in the order and has since become even more powerful as a Sith... but Krell was absolutely dominating on the battle field. Dooku was easily taken prisoner by like 20-30 pirates in season 1 (I think). Yeah he didn't have his lightsaber, but still... Krell was wiping the floor with dozens of battle hardened, and heavily armed clone troopers. I think he would match up quite well against Dooku... Perhaps his plan wasn't to be his "apprentice" for too long... I think this is what makes me sad knowing he died... I would loved to have seen him take on Grievous or something... Hell this is exactly what General Grievous should have been in this series, you know minus the force powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I was just glad Anakin didn't show up to kill Krell during the big chase scene. That really would have been the easy way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Except, you could also assume some of those clones were a bit hesistent regardless of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwasko Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) I don't know why everyone needs a reason why the clones "betrayed" the Jedi. There's a reason why Order 66 was simply referred to as Order 66: they had known what it was since early on in their training, when they were given a list of potential "worst case scenario" orders. I can't particularly recall for sure, but I believe it was Rex who said that the clones were serving a greater cause: to serve and defend the Republic. They weren't bred to serve the Jedi. In fact, Order 66 specifies that the Jedi needed to be executed because they are traitors/a threat to the Republic to which they were made to be loyal. There are some clones whose personal loyalties made them hesitate or even refuse to execute their commanders, but not all Jedi were as friendly and respectful toward them as Anakin (see: Krell). Also, some clones (like Dogma in these episodes) are more likely to obey orders without hesitation, over personal loyalties to their Jedi commanders and even fellow clones. Edited November 20, 2011 by jwasko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm still not convinced that "Order 66" is part of the clones active coinciousness. Although this episode introduces an entirely different issue. If the clones "did" know that Order 66 was a potential scenario, Anakin's troops being so seasoned and "human" may have caused a problem when the order was issued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zor Primus Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Good ending for Krell...I agree it would have been better if it would have been more along the lines of him fearing the inevitable destruction of the Jedi and not seeking to join the Sith. Fear leader to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering...would have been nice to see Yoda's wisdom shown incarnate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane70 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm still not convinced that "Order 66" is part of the clones active coinciousness. Although this episode introduces an entirely different issue. If the clones "did" know that Order 66 was a potential scenario, Anakin's troops being so seasoned and "human" may have caused a problem when the order was issued. I was just reading about "Order 66" yesterday. According to Wookiepedia, not all the clone troopers obeyed the order. If that source is correct, then "Order 66" is part of their active consciousness. There's also an "Order 65" that I saw that apparently calls for the elimination of the Supreme Chancellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I was just reading about "Order 66" yesterday. According to Wookiepedia, not all the clone troopers obeyed the order. If that source is correct, then "Order 66" is part of their active consciousness. There's also an "Order 65" that I saw that apparently calls for the elimination of the Supreme Chancellor. Wiki's are about as reliable as well, wiki's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totoro242 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I agree with Keith, but more for the reason that Lucas only considers the movies as canon and anything written outside of the movies is EU, even the Clone Wars show itself. If you consider this, then we don't really know what Order 66 exactly is until Lucas actually tells us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Anyone else think Krell's lightsabers were the coolest-sounding ones of all? Somehow they just sounded "choppier". More "flutter" to them. In an awesome way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaman Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 "Order 66" is part of their active consciousness. There's also an "Order 65" that I saw that apparently calls for the elimination of the Supreme Chancellor. Whoever came up with that should be shot! Order 65 is in effect, WAIT I MEANT 66!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Nash Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Whoever came up with that should be shot! Order 65 is in effect, WAIT I MEANT 66!!!! Nice XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Anyone else think Krell's lightsabers were the coolest-sounding ones of all? Somehow they just sounded "choppier". More "flutter" to them. In an awesome way. YES! YES! and YES!!! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanzilla Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Episode 411: Kidnapped Zygerrian slavers are behind the sudden disappearance of an entire colony of people on the planet Kiros. As Anakin and Ahsoka rush to defuse a series of bombs planted by the slavers, Obi-Wan must fight with their imposing leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I'm still not convinced that "Order 66" is part of the clones active coinciousness. Although this episode introduces an entirely different issue. If the clones "did" know that Order 66 was a potential scenario, Anakin's troops being so seasoned and "human" may have caused a problem when the order was issued. Maybe consciousness develops the longer a clone survives. Their life expectancy was probably predicted to be very insanely low over the course of the war to ever get to that point though. And when they do, like in the 501st, it might get more depressing for the clones the closer the show gets to Episode III territory. I thought the ending of the episode was just a sad reminder of how things are really going to end up for most the characters in the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanzilla Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Episode 412: Slaves of the Republic To locate the missing colonists, Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka go undercover to infiltrate the slavers on Zygerria. Anakin struggles with his emotions as a wily Zygerrian queen forces him to take questionable actions in order to carry out his mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zor Primus Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Episode 412: Slaves of the Republic To locate the missing colonists, Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka go undercover to infiltrate the slavers on Zygerria. Anakin struggles with his emotions as a wily Zygerrian queen forces him to take questionable actions in order to carry out his mission. Gooooood goooooood... Edited December 2, 2011 by Zor Primus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) Anakin, what would Padme think?! Edited December 3, 2011 by Einherjar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 After the awesomeness that was the Krell arc (save for the whole bad guy reveal bit), anyone else feel like this whole slave arc feels like a "very special" episode of the Clone Wars. Yeah, we get it: the slavers are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane70 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 After the awesomeness that was the Krell arc (save for the whole bad guy reveal bit), anyone else feel like this whole slave arc feels like a "very special" episode of the Clone Wars. Yeah, we get it: the slavers are bad. No, I think this arc is more about Anakin coming to terms with his past than it does with slavery itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totoro242 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 No, I think this arc is more about Anakin coming to terms with his past than it does with slavery itself. Exactly. Or not coming to terms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vepariga Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 this slaver arc seems to be going really well ,I loved the Umbara arc. I like the sound of the slaver ships too,real meaty gritty sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecha2241 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Did anyone else think the slave ship in part one look a little like Serenity from Firefly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjar Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Sorry, I got distracted by the Queen who sounded like she wanted to make Anakin her boy toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 What happened to episode 13? Did it not air? Is the show taking a break or something? Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) What happened to episode 13? Did it not air? Is the show taking a break or something? Graham As far as I can tell, it hasn't aired here on the east side of the Pacific. I think last week's ep was a repeat of the Krell arc. Maybe they're on break for the holidays. Edited December 23, 2011 by Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanzilla Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Yeah, they are on a 4 week break. Good news is they have been replaying the Umbarian episodes during the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I liked the nod to Return of the Jedi in the slavers episode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanzilla Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Episode 414: A Friend In Need A peace conference between Separatists and Republic delegates is interrupted by Lux Bonteri, the son of a late Separatist Senator, who involves Ahsoka in his dangerous search to find justice for his mother's death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Nice to see Death Watch again. I especially liked the female Death Watch member. Although I never realised those Jetpacks allowed such fast and long endurance flight though.....hahah! So far season 4 has been so much better than the weak-ass effort that was the bulk of season 3. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ok, not really CW related, but still loosely SW related. For years I've been trying to remember the name of a cheesey kids show I used to watch that had an R2D2 knock-off in it, and now finally that search has ended. Now I'm sharing for anyone else who may have forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Really liked that last episode. Did you know the female Deathwatcher was voiced by Katie "Starbuck" Sackoff? Also surprised by yhe amount of killings/death in the episode......minor spoiler..... Asoka's quadruple decapitation was epic! Chris Edited January 16, 2012 by Dobber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanzilla Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Episode 415: Deception When the Jedi learn of a Separatist plot to kidnap Chancellor Palpatine, one of them must go deep undercover as a hardened criminal to extract information from the conspirators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Kinda rolled my eyes at the beginning of the ep, but I'm intrigued enough to see how this all pans out. Once again, Obi goes to prison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanzilla Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Episode 416: Friends and Enemies Fleeing across the galaxy with criminal fugitives, a disguised Obi-Wan, Cad Bane and Moralo Eval are tenaciously pursued by Anakin and Ahsoka, who have no idea they're chasing their friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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